One day, at Master Yaoshan's work, sitting in Zaozi, a monk asked him, I'm thinking, what's the painting like? I'll be sitting and move quickly. Miao Shan said, think of not thinking. Think of unthinking. Muck said, how do you think? Unthinking. Miao Shan said, nonthinking. On the second floor, over the door to Roshi's house, up the door to Yuzuki Oksan's funeral is implicated or implicated, says the cloud driver.

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And then next to it says, not think I talked to her. We were having a discussion a few days ago. And one of the monks said, it seems to me that Zen is about time. It's about time. But understand. A little bit about time and a little bit about, oh yeah, or Or ah-ha.

[02:58]

Un-ah-ha. Well, we've been lost in talk. We haven't been talking too much about ah-ha this week. So we've been talking about acupuncture needle . Hey, someone pointed out that when you use an acupuncture needle, you don't stick the whole needle in.

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if you just stick the tip in. But even though you just stick the tip in, they don't have needles that just have tips. They have a shaft, too. As a person, I felt that At the beginning, a lot of people have mentioned to me that the last part makes some sense. Part of the water at the bottom. Fish swim like fish. Fish trap like fish. Sky vast beyond the heavens. Birds fly like birds. That makes sense, some sense. This person pointed by said that seems like the first part, most of the poem is like abstract.

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The last part, like the part that goes in. One day, somebody else was doing something. Our ancestors. all did zazen, like we're doing this course. And so another ancestor, Master Ma, was doing zazen one time.

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And his teacher came up and said, what's the purpose of doing zazen? And then Joseph says, well, what did he mean by, what is the purpose of doing sadhana? Was he asking Master Ma, do you expect to gain something by doing sadhana? Do you have some intention in doing Zazen other than doing Zazen? Is there something more to Zazen than just doing it? Do you have any intention at all doing Zazen?

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What is the actual idea of doing Zazen? Without me telling you to consider these things, I think you have to consider, I think you've been wondering this, many of you, what is the purpose of doing Zaza? Do you gain anything from doing Zaza? Do you lose anything from doing Zaza? If you consider these questions, you have beginner's mind, and you also have same kind of questions that for thousands of years.

[08:37]

To me, it seems like there's two aspects of Buddhist practice or Zen practice that I'd like to point out. One aspect is the aspect of completely settling into this experience, really taking care of this. Then, once we settle into this, then we ask, what is it? Or what's the point? In other words, Zen has a very experiential dimension, a very concrete, phenomenal immersion. and a questioning side, a yoga engagement side, and a philosophical side.

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However, we don't ask questions abstractly. We ask questions after we have settled into some particular. And we don't just settle into particulars. Once we have settled in particulars, we naturally question. Even if we don't say the question literally, naturally a question arises. Is this your experience? Have you ever settled into an experience?

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Have you ever settled into an experience Question arising from that. What did she say? She wanted to know if you met by settling in, did you find peace? And then in the midst of it, you know, if you knew you'd like to live another seven years or so, Well, I don't like to say yes, but I guess it's true. I wasn't meaning to settle and get peace, but I guess you do get peace. I'm actually a little bit... I wish it was so, in a way. So if you don't have peace, you're not settled in? Well, what I mean is I wish to say that you settle in and have peace sounds like when you settle in to get something.

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I don't like that, but in fact, When you do settle in, I think you are at peace. In other words, you're not waffling anymore. You're not waffling. Waffling means vacillating. You're not vacillating anymore. You actually are settling into what's happening. Whoops. Well, once the peace is established, once you settle into your experience, then we say true fraternity still flows. Is this your experience?

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Have you ever settled in with something? You never did? Has anybody ever? You did? Then what happened? I settled in with the same shit a moment ago. I crashed. I have a question for you. I think it's easier to ask questions. You said easier to ask. She said when you settle into things, settle into something, it's easier to ask questions. I think that's true, but I would take away it's easier and say that just naturally it comes. Like when Gensha left his teacher,

[14:37]

He was leaving his teacher, going on a pilgrimage, and he stubbed his toe. And he said, this body doesn't even exist. Where does the pain come from? How do you look like beside the point? Sounds like Google. Sounds like Google. Also, you're asking a question about something else. Pardon? You're asking a question about something else. What is that? What am I asking about? When you ask a question about the experience, It sounds like that there's the asker .

[15:47]

Is that always so? Is there the asker or the asked about? I was sitting in the corner.

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Someone came and said, I didn't have to pray. I didn't have to pray. Thank you. Well, you see, what I'm thinking about is, first of all, does something arise in deep

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Does something arise when you settle into the experience? Believe it. No. You're impatient. No. Ambivalence. Really settle in. You're at peace with the experience. Does something arise? And somebody said, yes, if you're alert. Now, do you mean that it arrives if you're alert, or you notice it if you're alert? Notice it if you're alert. What do you think about that? When you feel peace, you really settle into experience that something arises. Something arises.

[20:55]

Something arises. Now, is that thing that arises a question? God said it's not a question. Is it a question? Maybe it's a question and answer at the same time, Paul said. I think it's an unanswerable question. Leslie thinks it's an unanswerable question. But when I ask, Deep peace is a question.

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Does something arise? Does that question arise? What question? Deep peace is a question. Is that something that arises? Does the question come from frustration? Yes. Sometimes a question has been unanswered. Many people ask questions, but the question I'm talking about is not to get an answer.

[23:19]

The question I'm talking about is a question which is The mode of existence of deep peace. You could say that if that was your mind, you don't know where it's at. You feel that and you don't know where you're at. Yeah. I agree. In deep peace, your mind is powerful. There's no name. There's no name. And? No place. No place.

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And? No time. No answer. No answer. No you? So, do you think that he believed that the body didn't exist, or he experienced that the body didn't exist, or that he believed he should experience that the body didn't exist when he said that? Who are you talking about now? Your friend, when you stole him, when you stepped his toe. I think he experienced the body does not exist. He was walking along and experiencing that the body doesn't exist. He was walking along. But he was walking along. How can you walk along experiencing the body doesn't exist?

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How can you walk? Move with that movement. I'm not satisfied with his answers. Experiencing the body does not exist, but not me. The body does not exist. Hartsuka said, no eyes, no ears, no nose, no tongue. And Bilishan said, but I have eyes. Right. So in emptiness doesn't mean you can't walk anymore. When he said, but I have eyes, experience no eyes. He? Yeah. I don't know.

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Anyway, he wasn't proud. He was frightened by the heart situation. He just sat there and said, OK, I understand that. He said how he felt. But Gensha was in a different place. He was walking with his feet on the ground. You say, how can he walk if the body doesn't exist? And I say, because you walk very carefully, you can experience the body is not graspable. Because you're walking carefully, you experience the body is not graspable, not a graspable entity. Then if it's not a graspable entity, where does the pain come from? That's his question. So it's not how do you walk, you might say.

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Because you walk like an ordinary person. Because you are the most ordinary person. But why would there be a question after he stuck his toe and not before? He was walking, I mean. Well, this is what I would say, okay? Because if you can be ordinary, if you can have a body and breath and thoughts, feelings and emotions, and you can have them and settle into them, At that time that you settle into it, you have great peace. But as I say, I'm not trying to express this point of peace.

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I'm just trying to stress that you settled into it. It just turns out that when you do settle into what you're doing, what you're feeling, and so on, when you do settle into it, that is peace. Once you settle into it, something may happen. At that,

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