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Stories as Catalysts for Moral Transformation

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The discussion examines the transformative nature of stories and their potential to shape moral identity, using the tale of King Arthur as a metaphor. The talk pivotally explores the concept of a Bodhisattva, emphasizing flexible, selfless love and adaptability to any situation. The discussion further highlights the role of these virtues within Zen practice, contrasting rigid identities with dynamic, responsive engagement.

  • King Arthur: The narrative serves as a metaphor for moral decline and redemption, illustrating how stories can guide one's identity and moral choices.

  • Bodhisattva Ideal: Central to the talk, emphasizing selfless love, adaptability, and an absence of rigid self-identification as ideals to cultivate within Zen practice.

  • Zen Koans and Stories: Implicitly referenced, demonstrating how these narratives challenge practitioners to deepen their understanding and practice through seemingly paradoxical situations.

  • Yangshan and the Monk: A story suggesting the importance of flexible practice and creative engagement with teachings, fostering direct experience and understanding beyond textual interpretation.

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Speaker: Tenshin Reb Anderson

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So before you were laughing, I was saying that I saw this movie at King Arthur, and in this movie King Arthur fell upon hard times. He was like this real spiffy king for a while, right? And he had like these gorgeous knights. They were making like really cool armor, and beautiful horses and stuff. And he lived in a place called Camelot, I suppose it is. So things were really great up there for a while. Did you hear about that? And then something went wrong. Not wrong, but something actually went wrong. He moved to another place. And part of that was King Arthur was a wreck for a lot of people. Did you hear about his breakdown? Did you see what he did? He broke down from what he was before. And so he got, he was like, kind of like, instead of riding around on a big white horse that was climbing on him, he was kind of like crawling along the earth.

[01:07]

Huh? No, let's not. It's King Arthur. Maybe, maybe, maybe the actor is not Brooks, but I don't think so. So, anyway, King Arthur is basically like crawling along the earth. That makes sense to you? You were humble, I guess. It looks like you've never heard this before. Is that right? Yeah. Well, can I just, can you get to Lancelot's another thing? This part, I'm talking about King Arthur. Lancelot's not in the part that I'm talking about. I'm just going to talk about this one part where King Arthur's like crawling along the ground. Not necessarily like with his stomach hanging down, but he's down low. The big penis down low. You've got some people, some loyal attendants that go with him on this, kind of like homeless phase of his life. He's like a homeless person. He's a homeless person. Homeless king.

[02:09]

But he's wounded. You know about this? He's a wounded king. And the whole country's kind of falling into this. Bad times, too. The whole country's like crops don't grow. You know about this? He's a wounded king. He's a wounded king. In this movie I saw, he's going through some like, this is medieval times or this is pre-medieval times. This is dark age. He's completely dark. Walking through some dark villages, you know. They didn't have paved roads, so it was wet. Walking through, you know. So he's going through. And you see this little boy. He's a little boy in this dark, narrow street. He's on the curb of a little hill. And he's going through this forest. You know, they have a meeting. And King Arthur's like,

[03:11]

You know, he wanted to be when you grow up. He said, I want to be a knight. Like King Arthur. He doesn't want to be like this guy you're talking to. But King Arthur's like, I really want to be like King Arthur. And the whole country's falling into this. The whole country. So, having that story of the boy being like this guy. You need to be like King Arthur in the story. Like a King, an actual King Arthur. Like King Arthur. And he said, yes. So, I really don't want to be like this guy. Because he was really important. So, These then stories, this then story is, I don't know if it's actually true.

[04:15]

But it's a story that we have here. And the story's not necessarily objectively true. Or false. And that's not really the issue. Because the issue is, Is this story a story about what you are going to be? Is this a story about who you are? And how you want to live? Is this a story of your moral identity? Or not? We need some ideas. We need some stories. Which are going to, To speak the expression, forge. Your moral identity. Forge life. Forge life in a form, like a blacksmith's form. Like make, make strong, clear, moral identity.

[05:21]

To be used as a point of departure. To live the life that you want to live. To go inside the life. Whatever. Anyway. Maybe we need stories. To forge this identity. Stories. Is this what your story is? Pardon me. And many of these stories, Although they may not have happened. When they became stories, Which then practitioners told. When they became stories, Which then practitioners told to each other. They became stories, That these people were using. To find their way in life.

[06:22]

Whether they actually happened or not. To what point. One is, Whether they're going to use these stories as Sources of their imagination. In their moral imagination. In their moral identity. When I said forge, Is this what you meant? I can't think of it. But then I felt, Really bad about making, Real hard moral identity. Because I think the moral identity of the Bodhisattva, Is an identity, Which is, A new kind of justice. What's the moral identity of the Bodhisattva? It's light. I don't know. It's flexible. It's selfless loving.

[07:29]

But that selfless loving, What's the characteristic of that selfless loving? Huh? Huh? Well, You could say giving. Or strength and power and giving. But, I can't define what is strength and power and giving. What is loving and what is not. When you said selfless, Selfless meaning, It doesn't have fixed, Although. So the main thing is, It doesn't, Although, It depends on things, Because it has to be something, In order to, In order to be an identity. It doesn't have to be fixed on anything. So one of the main characteristics is, It doesn't apply to me. It doesn't depend on me. It can be anything. So, But, At the same time, It is, Quite subtle. It's quite,

[08:30]

Like, It's decisive. They're decisively not binding. They're, They're decisively practicing in a way, That has no fixed vision. They have this, They're in this absorption, This concentration, Which has no, Vogue, Which has no definite, Sign. Therefore, It has this quality, Which, No one can say, In a fixed way, What it is, But they can adapt to every situation, And come up, With, They, The Bodhisattva, Can adapt to any situation. But the Bodhisattva, Is not one person. The Bodhisattva is actually, The adaptor, To every situation. It's not that the Bodhisattva, Adapts to every situation. It's that the Bodhisattva, Is the adaptor to every situation. So, If you and you, Are in some situation,

[09:31]

And they're adapting, Very skillfully to the situation, Then the Bodhisattva is there. And you're there too. First, First there's everything, Working out, And then there's you. And everything working out, For the welfare, At the moment, That's the Bodhisattva. But that doesn't exclude all the people present. Everybody who's, In that situation, Is part of the Bodhisattva. And those people who are not resisting, This, The way things are working out, In this nice way, They sometimes are called the Bodhisattva. But that's not luck. That person is not the Bodhisattva. It's that that person, Is realizing what the Bodhisattva is. Everybody that wouldn't interfere with it, Would be a Bodhisattva. But even those who would disagree with it,

[10:34]

Who are being benefited in some other way, Minus their understanding, Still there is no dysfunction. So again, Could, Is this the kind of story that teaches, That there is a Bodhisattva? And, Can you see, In this story, Instruction, And inspiration, And even can you see, Can this story, Persuade you, To give yourself, The life of a Bodhisattva? So, The orientation to this story, That's kind of the feeling that I'm having. All these stories, The only thing about these stories, All of these stories, Are the Bodhisattvas. All of these stories, The only thing that,

[11:34]

Is most appropriate, The most important, Liberating being is, The Bodhisattva. Peace. And suffering. I, I think this commentary, Is a very, Big one. But I really, Don't want to read it, In class. And I really like to not, Even if I ever do read this commentary, And enjoy it, And learn something from it, I kind of don't want to talk to you about, This commentary too much. That's why I feel today, And I'm not going to, You know, hopefully,

[12:36]

I'm not going to cling to that. In other words, Hopefully the Bodhisattva, Will take me, Will take my life, And not make me be rigid about this commentary. But I can tell you that tonight, I don't want to do it right now. But I would like to know, What we can do with this story, Without reading the commentary. Now some of you, Or maybe have already read the commentary, So what I'm going to say, You are in the file, That's who you are, That's part of the mix here, That some people haven't read this. But fortunately, Or unfortunately, But some people have not. Therefore we can speak of the story, And think about, And talk about, What, What's good about this story, For the Bodhisattvas. What's good for the Bodhisattvas. And, So I'd like you to tell me, How you feel about this story. Do you remember this story by the way? Do you remember any of it? No. What do you remember about this story? Why don't you come up here, And tell people what you remember.

[13:37]

That's good. That's good. That's a good start. Originally, It didn't say, You know, A lot of these texts, They edit it out for laughter. So I just, I just edited the tape, Electrolyzed nuclear issue, And it's like, Blah, blah, blah. It said, Laughter, And it says, Laughed, And it says, Laughed, So if he laughs, It means the other people laugh, And if he laughed, It means the other people laugh, If he laughs, It means he laughed. This is just his laugh. And sometimes he says his laugh, So it's, Laughed, Laughed, I edited those out. I want this kind of canned laughter. Is this what you canned laughter is? That's not canned laughter either. This is not canned laughter. That's not canned laughter. That's not canned laughter. Where is he? So anyway... Okay, so the story is... Um... There's Yangshan...

[14:44]

What is his name? Yangshan. Yangshan. Yangshan. And a monk. He wasn't good for you. No. Alright, so the story is... It's... See, I don't really remember who comes up to whom. When the monk comes up. When the monk comes up to the teacher. Okay, and so... But who asks whom? The monk asks the teacher. The monk comes back to the teacher. Okay. Do you know sign? Do you know sign? Do you know how to write? Do you know how to play a character? Do you know how to play a character? What's this? Oh, oh. Oh. I don't know. I should know the script. I just read it again. The monk walks around...

[15:47]

The monk walks around... The monk walks around... Just walk. [...] Yeah, yeah, it means many things. What like what? Like, okay, how about self and others? Not bad. Usually it means ten. Ten. Or complete. Complete. I don't know. That's good.

[16:48]

Self and others, that's good. Self and others. That's actually, that's actually good. Self and others. Human and animal, heaven and earth. Practice and realization. Practice and realization. Delusion and enlightenment. Black and white. Black and white. Me and you. What is that? My book. Okay. Go ahead. I transacted a book. Counterclockwise. It's difficult. Well, this is not much space. There's probably more space in this room. Laughter It probably wasn't this couch. Laughter But it might have been a couch. Not all stuff like this.

[17:50]

Maybe they have couches. Teachers are often sitting on their couches. They don't even have to have it. It doesn't matter. And then it's a nice day. What's this? What character is this? I don't know, but... Bark! Laughter Laughter From our perspective, it's going like that. So it's going... Then... Oh. Yeah. She's a titan.

[18:56]

She's like a... I don't know how to call it. I don't know if it's even called a titan or... I'm sure in Sanskrit they're shurik. And they're... They're like trees. They're like... I don't know. And then... A circle. What character is this? And... It is... A knight. A knight. Yes. What is it called? Isn't there a card? A card? Garble. Oh, I think...

[20:23]

Right. Garble. Laughter What does it feel? Besides the tension of the body? I don't know. I don't know. It's dry. Watch the lips as they do that. Yeah. Now, you say that it was dry. One of the things about this story that I thought was... That... That monk...

[21:25]

Was very flexible. Walking around the teacher and saying... First of all, how can you be so flexible? And... When was the last time one of these people asked a teacher a question? It depends. A day? A week? A month? A year? In this month... Asked the teacher a question. And the teacher gave him a response. In this month... Took her body for a walk. And then he said, in another month... He got a response. He took her body for a walk again. In another month. He got a response. And then she gave him a response. Okay? And then... After another month... He got a response. And then she gave him a response. So she was really kind of very flexible with her movements. So... I can see it maybe how you hear the story. It's... The fact that... The monk's behavior was very... What? Very easy... With creativity. Very creative.

[22:28]

He was just... As I said before... No? It's very... That monk was very creative. And very confident. Yeah. Very expressive. Very creative. Very... Very confident. Very out there. And... So, of course... The teacher says... So it is. Take care of it. Just take care of this creative... This creative... Unwrap of the impermanent expression of your physical self. Okay? This is what you should take care of. But... At the same time... If something goes wrong... You should... You should be looking at this book. That's... The monk already did it. But she should do something. She should... She doesn't want to do it. She doesn't want to do what? Do what you've got. And that is very hard for you. You don't think your body does it.

[23:29]

Very good. Very good. I just... Have a delightful feeling that you're having a conversation with yourself. And it just works for you. And you say... He... Could that be the monk? Or could that be the teacher? Or could that be you? I felt... So you're having a conversation with yourself with me now? And how is the conversation going? The wife and the father. Does that mean he did it? It means that he did it. But he admitted it. Honest. It means that he did it. I have a fine map of England as well.

[24:42]

Oh! I thought it was fine map that you've been double-missed. Long time. He comes. Virtually. Immortal. And the monk... Doesn't... Chosen. Although he doesn't get a name printed. As Mr. Monk. But he's doing fine. For the moment. Something is off. I think I'll have to go to sleep this morning. ... I think you're right. There's nothing there.

[25:48]

You know, when you said there was something from the laptop there, there's something here. He said that this was his fault when we were hearing. And... What's the best preparation? This is one of them. And I think... What is this? This encounter with myself. This encounter with yourself? Is this the best preparation? I think it's the best preparation. I think it's the best preparation. I don't... Where is Yangshuo? Your eyes keep looking at me like I'm looking at something other than there. Or here. That's not Yangshuo. Yangshuo is not looking someplace else.

[26:50]

That's not Yangshuo. And I think that way is the best, is excellent preparation. It's not good for me to look at Yangshuo. Not to mention you. I thought you... I thought Vernon was talking about having a conversation with Vernon. Well, that's... I think probably that's like a curse. Yeah, right. Exactly. Exactly. If you're inspired, when you're inspired. Thank you. I'm thinking about what about Vernon. You're not going to put that down again, are you?

[27:53]

No. No. No? Uh-huh. He doesn't. But what about the kindness of the moon? He doesn't also get a shot at the future, does he? But he does get a shot at the future. He does. Well, he kind of gets one shot at the future by being so committed to coming back. He's coming back. I mean, people get shot and not being impressive and penetrative anymore. People shot at the future. How? It's a good thing, isn't it? So, if you want compassion, too? Huh? You're not feeling it?

[28:56]

It is like a spirit? Uh-huh. He's practicing giving, isn't he? He's practicing appreciating, isn't he? He's practicing concentration, isn't he? He's practicing increasing, isn't he? It may be hard to see that he's practicing patience, because we don't know what pain is. But if he's practicing patience, well, that's not obvious. There's nothing to do with this very dynamic situation that we're in for the future. He's practicing intention. He's practicing intention of a mind that has no goal. And he's expressing it, he's demonstrating it. How about you? Yeah, how about you? I mean, isn't he a man with a beautiful mouth?

[30:05]

He's got a beautiful face. He's got a beautiful mouth. Are you having a non-specific conversation? No. Does that mean he's got a beautiful mouth? No. Does he feel anything with it? Okay, yes. That's fine? Okay. Okay. He's just doing that in a spot, isn't he?

[31:08]

Is there any fear? Is there any fear inhibiting the beautiful conversation? Is there anything you have to say that you're not saying? No. What does that mean? I don't know. You don't know? Well, I'm giving you a hint. For example, is the intention something you're afraid of? Now, in order to have a non-specific conversation, somebody, or somebody has to jump over and sneak around with fear. Of saying this thing, which will get this beautiful conversation, this enormously beautiful conversation going. I don't know if I'm afraid, but...

[32:17]

I'm asking you to do it. If you're not, then you're checking me. Neither one of us are. How do you react? Well, you can ask me, I'll tell you. I don't really say that I'm afraid of you, but that part of the experience, she's afraid. Now, if she's told me she's not afraid, it means she started acting like that, that I'm not afraid. Now, she's the fear seems to be in her court. She's ready. She's ready. She's ready. She's starting now. What are you doing here?

[33:21]

I'm checking you, I'm checking you. I'm taking you to your house. I'm going to ask you if you want to go to my house. I can't go to your house. You're sure, you're sure, you're sure? Yeah. You want to go to your house? Do you want to go to your house? Maybe I have to remind you what to tell you if I can help you. You don't want to speak? Well, do it. You're welcome. You're the kind of man... I don't think all this stuff that they're trying to get at me.

[34:22]

I'm not trying to get at you. All I know is that you told me something about staying anonymous to me, and then I thought, well, that's all that happened now. Forget about it. Forget about it. Because you don't know anything about me. So, how can you not? They're handling it. And he said... To be like, I don't know. I don't have proof. So, that's what I'm trying to do. Now that you can't take me. But... Stop reminding me. Stop it. Do you want to live a life where you have been honest with me, but can't say the truth to me? Maybe. But maybe. I don't know. Maybe. I don't know.

[35:23]

I don't know what to say. Maybe I should. Maybe I should leave. Maybe I should stay. Maybe I should stay for a while longer. I'm sure you'll be happy with this. I'm not funny. I don't think so. You can... I just disagree with this. Well, we almost automatically imagined that it was this sign. And then, this other sign is here, and it's like that. And it is here. I don't know if you guys can hear me. There's something that we've managed to do. What is it that we've managed to do? The interaction. The what? The interaction. The way they met.

[36:25]

The way they met. So we don't need to get into the symbols. We just need to get into how we meet. I agree. This is not about symbols. This is about how we meet. And if you think those symbols are interesting or horrible, fine. But don't let them distract you from the fact that this story is about me and my meeting. That's what it's about. And beings do various things when they meet, which make it challenging to meet. Like they go like this. And that sometimes makes it hard for people to relax. Sometimes they go like this. And that makes it hard to meet them. But to relax with them. They do various things when they meet. When they meet, they tend to relax.

[37:27]

Is that what they relax with people when they meet? When they meet people? It looks like they're relaxed. They look like coming up with good stuff. Better than probably anyone could come up with. Unless they're just relaxing. How do you feel? How do you feel now? I'm not feeling anything. You're not feeling anything? I don't feel anything. I don't feel anything. I don't feel anything. Maybe we should go. What's your name again? We should go interact with people. Yeah, I'm not afraid. Of anything. We should go do something with her. Would you like to switch? No, no, no. Go and do something with... Please go do something with her. What did you say? Don't touch me. Don't touch me. I'll do it.

[38:31]

I'm fine. If you know her, though. And that would be wonderful. Yeah, well, come on. Get together, you guys. Meet me. Meet me. We're meeting. Meet me. [...] Hello. I know what you're talking about. I know what you're talking about. The fear that you're talking about. I was there at one time. And I was there at the time. I love you. You're doing fine. Do you have any questions for her? Well, I have... Excuse me. Do you have any questions for her? No?

[39:32]

Can I give you one? I'm sure she knows you. I don't know what to do. Do you know... Ask her if she knows any characters... Ask her if she knows any characters in the movie. This one? This one? Yeah. I really don't know. But you know me. You know me? Ask her about me. Fortunately. Did you say fortunately? I mean, I want to see where it's going. Please, ask her more. I was listening to you talk. That's all. And, um... And... My receiving... What you're giving... That's one thing. And then... Him receiving what I'm giving. Something else.

[40:33]

And it's... And I think that's what... In the future... They were finding out that... They were finding out that it wasn't... Or the future was finding out, rather... That it wasn't what he was saying, but it was... Thank you. Thank you. Can I ask you a question? Yes, sure. Could we talk about something I'm hearing right now? It's going on behind the scenes. Oh, okay. Because they don't like to discuss it. Don't sit down, please. Now, there's someone who's not afraid. Oh, you know what? She's, like, scared to death. But also, even though she's scared to death, she'll attack... Giant monsters. She's a very frightening little creature. She's really afraid. But she's also fearless, at the same time. It's wonderful.

[41:34]

But... Whether she's fearless or not fearless... But anyway, back to here. Would you find out more from her how she knows me? What she knows about me? And what I know about her? What she gave me? Would you find out? If you're not doing it. What's the most important thing that you're going to do? Yes. I think that's a good answer. I don't know if that's a good answer. That's probably a really good answer. That's a good word, you know. Maybe... Okay. What do you see right now? She's... She's... She's... Pleasant. That's what you said.

[42:41]

That's what you said. She's... She's difficult. She's complicated. She's fun. She's very flexible. She has legs. Yeah, right. She's not afraid. I don't know if she's afraid or not. She's more... Freedom. Oh, I think you have a lot of things... I've been organizing myself.

[43:43]

She asked you a question. Why don't people come to class? Other than that other thing she said. Why don't people come to class? Is there any other reason to come to class? It's okay. But aside from just thinking about... What reason... What's the reason you come to the class? Well... I love you. You love me too? Yes. I want to give you this. That's amazing. Thank you. What happened?

[44:52]

Well, I think to look at... Beauty. Find love. Find beauty. Is the beauty the same as the love? Yes. So you come to class to look at the beauty in the love? Yes. And try it on? And try it out? Yes. So now that you're trying it on, you're trying it for love? Yes. Okay. What? What?

[46:01]

Right. And there's another point I'd like to make. And that is... As long as I'm teaching... The Bodhisattva thing is not happening. Stop that. Hey, I'm teaching, okay? Me being teaching is not... Is interfering with the Bodhisattva thing. Yes. Yes. That's the Bodhisattva. Right. Exactly. Right, and this is the story. To me, Yangshan doesn't seem like a teacher. To me... They're kind of like... To me, it doesn't seem like he's teaching this guy. To me, there's teaching going on, but it doesn't seem like he's the teacher. They're challenging each other. Who's challenging whom most? Who is the most?

[47:09]

How much is challenging to say, Yangshan day of the month, and how much is challenging to say, Yangshan day of the month? Both are quite challenging. I mean, how would you feel if somebody came up to you and said, you know Chinese characters? What do you say? What do you say? You say no. You say no. That's pretty good. So, you know, I say, you know Chinese characters, you say no. How much did I challenge you? How much of a challenge was that for you, when I said you know Chinese characters? Was none challenging? How much of a challenge was it for you when you say no? None? Maybe I shouldn't ask you. Maybe I shouldn't ask you if you know English. Do you know English? You do? Well, did you feel challenged when I asked you? So? She didn't feel challenged?

[48:11]

Well, I didn't feel challenged. So? That's it for us, huh? Do you know English? No. Do you know English? A little bit. Do you know Chinese characters? Do you know Chinese characters? If I ask you if you know English, you can say, you don't know English. If I ask you a different question, you don't know English.

[49:14]

In French, I can take your clothes off. But the way the character moves, the way the piece of the character moves, I get to see it. I get to see it. I have to go with what you have, if you talk about it. If you tell me if you know a character that you like, you can't tell me if you know the next one. There's a challenge involved in it. So, do you want to do that? Do [...] you, do you? Do you want to do that, do you?

[50:16]

You do? Well, in these stories, in bodhisattva stories, bodhisattvas challenge you. I challenge you. It can't be bodhisattvas. It isn't a dance, unless you challenge it by yourself. I don't know if you like that question. Did you get some feedback? How are you feeling about it? Put your hand up. How are you feeling about it? Um, more important. That's the idea. That's the idea. I think that you need to challenge each other, and that includes me being challenged by you. You need to challenge me. And I am happy to challenge you.

[51:21]

And then the question is, do you feel that being challenged is what you, that you need to challenge, you know, as part of developing your skill, you know, you need to develop in order to fulfill your compassion. Do you feel that way? And if you don't, then of course telling me that you don't like me coming over and telling me that you're going to stay over doesn't help. I say that because I'd like to help you get over your doubt about the virtues that you encounter. So again, what I'm saying to you, I guess, is that what I feel inspired by in this story is to challenge you so that you are safe and come alive. Right now, tonight, we have a long-standing conversation with anybody in this room, from the room, and I'm telling you that I like you. Are you ready for that? Hmm? Are you ready for that?

[52:24]

Okay. Thank you. Do you think you want to tell me? Do you want to tell me that you want to challenge me? You're going to challenge me. Are you serious? Yes. What's your name? [...] I'd like you to tell me what your name is. I feel very challenged. I don't feel so challenged

[53:31]

by that. Because, actually, I really appreciate that question because it gave me a chance to tell you my story. Okay. yeah, your question is fine. Okay. I'd like you to tell me what your name is. What's your name? I'd like you to tell me Hmm.

[54:32]

And right now, isn't the same? Is the relationship between the being and the being and the Bodhisattva being expressed by the relationship between the being and the being and the purpose? Between purpose, between wonder, between faith, that's what's happening right now, isn't it? It is happening. It is happening right now. Now it is. Now it is. You can see it and you can hear it. You are seeing it and you are hearing it. And this is the relationship between being and mind right now. It is happening now. That is also the relationship between being and mind. Cleanse the character, he thinks that, and some other human being thinks that too.

[56:05]

And some human being cleanses with those thoughts. Is there anybody here who is not like that, who is not doing what I am doing? Oh no! It's impossible to think and therefore you can't do it. So, you are successful not cleaning. Congratulations, Max. You get to sit up there. So now you can ask Max any questions you want because no matter what happens, he can't clean. What are you doing with your feet? What are you doing with your feet? Putting them up. What did you say?

[57:11]

Can I take my clothes off? Yeah, you can take them off. What do you mean it's enough, thank you. What do you mean it's enough, thank you. I mean he can go on and on. And you are not cleaning anything, including... You can ask him that, thank you brother. You are not cleaning anything, nothing at all. So we have an available facility for that. Has anybody in the room who is being withdraw right now? Who is being withdrawn. Pardon? Withdrawal of what? Withdrawal of what? Yeah. Of you, of yourself.

[58:14]

You know, like you are not expressing yourself. You really are not expressing yourself. Please, can you express yourself? There you are. And you haven't been expressing that to everyone else, you know how painful that is? You didn't consider what is this? I didn't say anything. I'm not really aggressive. There is a feeling, there is a feeling. And what is the feeling? I feel really worried about it. I'm like, I'm worried about anything. I was worried about you at one point, I'm worried about my husband. What were you worried about concerning me? Are you having fun right now?

[59:17]

You look like you're having a lot of fun, but you're not. You're just smiling. Yeah, but you're really not. So what were you afraid of concerning me? You were concerned with me. I wasn't afraid of you. You were worried that I would get tired? From this class? But you were, for a second there, you were worried that I would get tired? Yeah, but I mean, I think it's about me. You think you might get tired? If I had an idea. Well, any comments on that? No. About what? That idea. That you thought I might get tired? Yeah. So you think you might get tired if you were sitting here? Yeah. Well, guess what?

[60:20]

It's not like that. It's not like that, what? It's the reverse. You get tired. And then you get tired. Guess that I get tired? I need to get tired. What do I get tired from? I get tired from existence. But I don't get tired. From you people. I had a little dinner. You people are animating. You're creating. You look like it. Now, sometimes I'm by myself. It's fairly intense. It's hard for you to tell. You can sneak in. It's fairly intense for you too. But in some ways, it's more tiring when you're not around. Because, you know, sometimes when I resist, I'm like a giant. So I just walk around being really intense and resisting by myself. But actually,

[61:23]

it's when I resist or think about, can I deal with the situation? I appreciate the concern for me getting, I don't know what, enervated, decimated, emaciated, and frustrated by this planet. But, because it can happen. If I expect anything from me or you, I'd be frustrated. I don't know. Sometimes it is. For a little while now, I feel like, this isn't what I want. I don't know. No. [...] I have shoes in that thing. It's not me. I expect something.

[62:25]

In other words, I choose everything. I'm trying to control it. Um. So, Elizabeth and [...] Yes. Is there a point where you talk to your wife in this way? Huh? Why not? Anybody have any problems where you talk to your wife in this way? Can you give it up? Can you give it up? Yeah. You don't know what happened after that, but should we get to that point first and see

[63:28]

what happens? Yeah. Have you given it up? Fine. But have you given it up? Yes. Okay. Have you given it up? No. What's the point?

[64:29]

I don't know. [...] You've got a glimmer of what?

[66:15]

I've got a glimmer of something else. What if I... I don't know. I don't know.

[67:31]

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[72:21]

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[73:51]

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[75:08]

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[76:35]

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[78:03]

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[79:33]

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[81:02]

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[82:32]

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There's a lot more buddhi-nature on this side of the room than on that side of the room. There's a lot more buddhi-nature on this side of the room than on that side of the room. There's a lot more buddhi-nature on this side of the room than on that side of the room.

[85:20]

There's a lot more buddhi-nature on this side of the room than on that side of the room. There's a lot more buddhi-nature on this side of the room than on that side of the room. There's a lot more buddhi-nature on this side of the room than on that side of the room.

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There's a lot more buddhi-nature on this side of the room than on that side of the room.

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