Um, Reverend Kuhn Schrader invited me to give a talk tonight, or something like that. Um, I think she said she wanted, I think she said she wanted to hear me speak. Um, I had an uneasy feeling about accepting the invitation, but I thought under the circumstances I should accept it. Um, I'm not sure, I did some research to see what I was uncomfortable about, but I'm not sure exactly the full extent of my discomfort about speaking at a time like this. But I think it has something to do with, I don't want to kind of imply like, that the way the world really works is that I'm going to tell you something about what's going on.

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I don't, that's not really, that doesn't seem appropriate. And I, so that's that. And I also thought, well I can maybe just tell you how upset I am. I'm really upset. I think, um, we all are, right? I mean everybody is. Even people who think it's wonderful that all these people got murdered, even those people are really upset. So it's a really crazy situation, this world. So the question is, you know, maybe we can spend a little time here together and maybe something good could come up here in this room in the next few minutes. Between us. Maybe something will come up that would be helpful. Because it looks like, you know, people are yelling war.

[02:20]

The government, the leaders of the government are using words like war. And, you know, I don't really know about the Middle East, but I hear that it's a very discontented area, this world. There's a lot of suffering, from like Morocco to Iran. A lot of people are really upset. And even if the people who are responsible for this are responded to, and even if they were captured and punished or whatever, there are many others around them that aren't directly responsible that probably would then flare up. So it's a very dangerous situation. And they might not be able to strike back at the United States, but then they strike Europe or Israel.

[03:24]

And what's China going to do about all this? I haven't heard them saying anything yet. Do they think this was a nice thing that happened here? So we have, you know, we're on the verge of another war, and this time it's really close. What can we possibly do to contribute to peace under the circumstances where we've already been hurt so much? What can we offer? I don't know. We're all being terrifically challenged by all kinds of emotions. We're sad that in some sense the world which we used to live in is gone. And we're horrified, and we're on the verge of getting really angry.

[04:26]

And part of us may be synthesized with the people who say strike back and vanquish. The word vanquish was used by the President today. They will be vanquished. So what good can come from our little community tonight? I don't know. But you're welcome to express yourself in any way you think would be appropriate. And I'm welcoming myself also to express myself. And I would like to say that the only thing that really hits the spot for me is love. It's the only thing, you know, that seems appropriate.

[05:31]

And I don't really see some limit to it. I can't really feel good about saying you should be going this way rather than that way. And I feel a little foolish, but that's really how I feel. Everything else seems really stupid. When I say everything, everything else I thought of. And it's so touching because we're talking about very fragile, confused, precious life all over the place. But what kind of loving action could be helpful in a situation where we see the rising tide of war, even perhaps a world war? What is an appropriate response to that?

[06:36]

I just want to say that it's great to be a part of this. It's great to interact with people. It's an opportunity to provide a hand with peace. And I'm so grateful to have been able to share this with you. And I'm so happy to be joining together in peace. When I first saw that, a few months ago, I thought it was so silly. And then today, I just kept scrolling down, candle after candle. And people's names. And I couldn't find a candle to light. And then I looked at a candle that was not burning. And it said, somebody is lighting a candle. And I kept scrolling. And I kept reading. And I thought, I'm not going to get to lighting a candle. And finally, I found a candle. And I lit it. And it turned out to be amazing. I was so happy.

[07:42]

I kept reading and reading. And then it said, I can see a message. And then I clicked on somebody else's candle. And that was really amazing. And I was wondering if you were trying to talk to somebody. So, thank you for talking to me. It seems really funny that you're writing in your chronicle about a Bay Area Islamic mosque. That's receiving hate calls and threats. And I would like us to send our community to visit them. I don't know if they want visitors. Why don't we ask if they want visitors? We could ask. Make some connection with them and ask them how can we be of support and solidarity with you.

[08:50]

And also to connect with other religious organizations in the Bay Area. And try to have an even stronger show of support for each other. Thank you. It's so powerful. It's more than monetary support to me. It's about nonviolence that we need. And the mosques themselves. And these people themselves. And it's just hard to go there. It's a big ceremony. It's a sign of loyalty. Thank you so much. We could host a call of nonviolence and that could be a public service. We could invite people to participate. I think it's so important for the Bay Area to continue to stay sympathetic.

[09:55]

That's a good thing. I think that's a good thing. It's kind of a tough decision. I mean, I don't think that violence has been talked about. And I think violence has been talked about. Thank you. And... I think in some sense, we've lived such privileged lives and such protection lives. In some way, I feel having thought so long about what I would do if I was asked to do something. I mean, I know I have to fight.

[10:59]

And I know that if I had a choice, to kill someone to protect someone from being targeted, I could do that. You know? So that's what I would do. At least, I hope I would do it. I hope I would have the flexibility to do it. And it's extremely grateful to the people who've been there for me all the time. Extremely grateful. And I think it's... You know, I totally agree that detention is not the right word. You know? But that violence can come out of love. And that violence can come out of protection. And that thing, it does bring laughter. You know? I mean, there's... There's a lot that are getting hurt now. It would be interesting to know if you...

[12:04]

If that verbal call of duty does belong to control the loss, definitely. But... If you're willing to put your physical body in some way to protect... Hmm. Also, I think some of what Emily said and what Maya said... They were kind of... In some sense, kind of implying that they were talking about something really little. And I think really little things are fine now.

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Really lovely. Rick had another good idea. It may seem a little bit bigger, but... If there's anything little we can do, and it's something big like that, that would also be good. So, little things... It would be easier to find some small things. Of course... Obviously, being really nice to each other here in Greenville would be probably... Not a little thing, but... Would really be good. So... It's really time to really be kind to everybody in here. You can do that. You don't have to get in a car or anything to be nice to people in the valley. So, that's one other thing which we could do. We could try to do that with everybody we meet. Try to express some... Warm, kind feeling to each person... Throughout the day. That would be good, I think, too.

[14:05]

And I think that would also stimulate more good ideas of things we could do. Yes? I feel really badly that I went through... The whole part of the day... In a meeting, and at the end of the meeting, I forgot. I had forgotten what happened. And I think, to me, it would have helped to keep in check... The beginning of the meeting. And I realized that I had moved... I had moved to work today, and I had worked without asking for permission. And I'm not feeling fine. Maybe it's just that the necessary thing is not to... Get away from... Yesterday somehow. I don't want to do that again. If we're like... If something's in our face here at Green Gulch...

[15:13]

And you're right there with it... And you take care of it... With gentleness, and attention, and skill, and flexibility... I don't think you're really forgetting about that thing. Matter of fact, it may be because of this thing you'll do a good job tomorrow in the kitchen. Still, I think it's good to check in with... And everybody understand that everybody's upset as they start to cook. I think once you start cooking... It may be fine... For you not to think of anything in the universe besides the food in front of you. And then... And then maybe when you're done cooking, immediately this will plug right back in. But I don't think you have to keep thinking about this horror all the time. You don't have to stick your nose in it. That's not necessarily appropriate. It's here. You know, it's happening. You don't have to remember it. But... I think if you're just open to it, it's going to keep coming back at us... Over and over. Every time somebody says, how are you feeling? For quite a long time... You know...

[16:16]

You don't have to remember it. But we do have to remember, I think... Not this. We have to remember to be kind... In relationship. To ever meet it. That we can forget. It won't be difficult. A lot of people who are not very mindful are having no trouble remembering that they hate somebody right now. It doesn't really take much effort to keep looking for somebody to blame right now. That's easy. The human mind does that automatically. But to stay on the right track... Of not... You know... Of realizing that we're responsible for this. It's not them. They're responsible too. We're all responsible. This is a world mess. And it's easy to look for somebody to blame or somebody to get rid of now. And we have leaders who are... Who are starting to gradually come out and denounce Islam.

[17:17]

You know, to say... You know, to say Islam is a bad religion. Senators are saying that. Now. Already. And when one says it, then another one is going to dare to say it. And pretty soon we're going to have like... Well... So... Yeah, we're going to have... So... That's why I think it's really good for us to... Extend support to those who are in danger now. Especially Islamic people in this country. Or people who look Islamic. We're going to be attacked because we don't want to know what's really happening. What's really quite going on. So... It's such a beautiful response.

[18:19]

I also want to say congratulations. Somebody said it. And the root cause... Of this... Is death. Death. Sometimes. There is some intelligence happening out there, though. You know, I do hear some people recognizing that these people... Are... You know... Having a hard time. There's a lot of discontent. There's a lot of suffering. And... You know, we're... There are people... At least on public... National public radio who are... Presenting more... Bigger point of view. So... But the other... This other side of it, it's their fault. And, like, we never did anything like this ever. We did, right? We bombed... We didn't do anything as Hollywood style. But we bombed Kuwait.

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And killed... We don't know how many... How many people we killed. In the Gulf War. Right? But America has never been attacked. This is like... The Americans... So, we're really like... This is like me. And we don't think we ever did this to anybody else. But we have. And... And now they're striking back. And so... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's like just right out of the movies. The one... There's... There's... There's this very... Never... Unforgettable image. That's, you know... Sticking in your mind. One of the things... One of the very little things I was thinking about...

[20:27]

Was... That our senators and representatives are getting probably lots of input from... That has to do with hate. And... Maybe it's worthwhile... To send them a little input that has to do with love. And that encourages them... To... To think in some way other than you're the victims. Which is what you did. And I really like the idea of going... To the mark. To the mark. Maybe a work meeting comes out soon... And you could ask who'd like to work on that. And then also... I guess... I guess it should...

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You know... Maybe... Maybe you could contact... Have Sarah... Contact... Blanche and Linda... And see if they... Support the idea... Of what you're suggesting. And people... You know, any other ideas you have. Yes? I got a call from... David Gilbert. He said that there's... I think it's the Enchanted by the Times... That was there. Yes. Where there's... A lot of grief counseling is needed. And the Enchanted by the Times... For relatives of those who come to it. So... Again... I would like to know if you're... If you can give me a question about that. We're going to find out... Specifically... Is that... Is that a... [...]

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Is that a... [...] Julia Mayfield has said that... She would like people to... She would like people to... Get in touch with comments... Or why people are... Why people are... Why they're... Why people are... Complaining to people... Because she feels that all of that... Defates the fact that... We're... Disconcerted... Disconcerted... Discontented... So... So I just wanted to report... I can't really separate the philosophical devastation from the spiritual devastation. I mean, it's just because I feel that I see that in the world right now. I don't have the enthusiasm or the desire to participate in anything.

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I don't have the enthusiasm or the desire to participate in anything. [...] And we're already really raw and we're hurt and we're not hiding the hurt, And we're already really raw and we're hurt and we're not hiding the hurt, and we're not veering off into anger so much here. We're continuing to be open to this pain, so it's going to be hard to continue to be

[35:26]

open to this pain and this fear, it's going to be hard, and we're going to probably slip, and then when we slip we confess it, we confess, I slipped, my practice slipped, I'm sorry, it's not the way I want to be, I'm sorry, that's love. And maybe the person isn't, maybe they're not ready to say that they're sorry too, so then that hurts you again, and you say, I take it back, I'm not really sorry, and then they say, I didn't think you were, and you say, well, I am now, okay. That's not even a suggestion, that's just, you know, it's just a story. Yes. Yeah, I appreciate that, that's why I gave the talk tonight, because I thought, even

[37:29]

though I didn't exactly not give the talk, but that's why I sat in this seat, because I feel like maybe it is a request, it's time for us all to be together, and so I was happy that I was here yesterday morning, rather than in the mountains, and I think maybe that's why Arlene came back, she wanted to be here, and Linda Ruth, I think, kind of wants to be here too, but she made this commitment to do this thing with her mother, and I think she really wants to be back here, so thank you, Danny, and I appreciate the encouragement that you have to give now that you're home. Thank you. Thank you. And I feel like it's important that we ask for devotion, because the only way that can

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be answered is through our own body and mind, and for more people to turn into their own body and mind through love and devotion, and caring for their communities, and caring for their consumption, and contact for what effect it has on you, and take responsibility for some of the violence and destruction that's happening. Thank you. Thank you.

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