Anybody know where that smell came from that was in the dining room this morning? What? A giant with dirty socks slept in your last night? It smells like dirty socks, or it also smells like maybe you should watch or sometimes wash in the world. The rug were all wet. It's a good guess. What time did you smell this thing? At breakfast time?

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Maybe air came out first. Maybe that the air... Yeah, maybe that the air there was in lines or something coming out. It's been sitting there all year. freedom can we go to parka8statecd We have said that the triple datu concludes five destinies and so on.

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There are four matrices of beings, egg-borne and so on. I'm going to read. Etymologically young ones mixed with birth. 14 pounds of beans. Beans are always stuck together. . [...]

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that they had born all at once without any other stage without sun and blood, such as gods, eternal beings, beings, and beings. Howard Ranges, he died in my own destiny. He had a whole sort of worst thing. April, May, Stubtson, Shadla, and Ubershira, born from the midst of the current system. 32 sons of Ashaka, mother of God, such as the 500 sons of the kingdom of Manchala, men who were children such as the man dead, men who brought an occupation such as . [...] animals also are two species, three species that are developed by common spirit.

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Navits and Garudits are also apparition. These three class of beings who are exclusive to the apparition nature. Freakles are also a cherry one. They are two sorts apparitional and also charitable. That they are charred with orange evidence from speech made by a president. I give birth to five sons by night and five sons by day. What is the best nature? Yeah, we don't have nature. But what he said, that is the last part of it, obviously, just the mastery related to birth. Why did he choose to be born in Jordan? To this question two were answered. The boys sought to see the two great advantages there, that by the reason of their kinship with them, the great shot would be entered into the good land.

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That recognizing in a never good shot part of the family, meant to feel a great respect toward him. That man may be encouraged to see that he being a man has realized perfection. The Bodhisattva were not sure any more and he would not know his family and he would say he was a magician, a god or a pistachio. In fact, the heterodox doctor would say, hallucinating. The end of a hundred cosmic theories such a magician appears in the world and follows the world by his mind. But this incredible Bodhisattva's pagan theory matrix so that his body could persist the shrub or tap the nirvana. By means of adoring each relative, by the thousand, obtain happiness and salvation. In fact, having no exterior seats, even blood, mud, and so forth, the bodies of that original group did not exist at death. I explained this pure that trace. For one to see that this expression cannot be affected by doctors, but to be supportive, reading at least .

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. [...] Okay. Any comments or questions about this section? In between, um, uh, destinies.

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But, um, uh, you're born into destinies And I guess we could say that you're born into the intermediate realm. You don't have to choose to be born into the intermediate realm, no. You get it automatically after giving up another birth. You could say you're born into it. but may we, better to say, be not born into it, just remember that it's a special kind of situation. At the moment of death, I'd like anyone to have the opportunity to have a thought on a night before and that we do.

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We have the opportunity to learn enlightenment at any moment, including that. You might not recognize or you might not really care, but then again, it's too many ways. It's like that. You actually won't become a Buddha when you die. I don't think we don't teach that that you become a Buddha when you die because you can let go of you can let go of all your attachment at the moment of death

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Um, to say that you become a Buddha at that time, I think, um, we'd have to talk about why you would say a person became Buddha. A Buddha is a, what I mean by Buddha, become a Buddha. You become, you become enlightened perhaps, you have Bodhi at that moment, but to be a Buddha is a special thing, you know. Maybe so. You might have read that. The Tibetan Book of the Dead is... When we start talking about the Tibetan Book of the Dead, we have to remember that we're changing books. Okay? A Buddha... If you say, A Buddha, that you're talking about a particular kind of thing. Buddha is a teacher. An enlightened teacher. And not all enlightened beings are teachers. Yeah, we see that.

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That would be the question now. Is this a Bodhisattva, an enlightened Bodhisattva that becomes thoroughly enlightened at the moment of death? If so, the Bodhisattva might choose to come back again. Take another birth. Once you're enlightened, nothing means anything. There's no kind of meaning and rules anymore. You can get reborn or not, but enlightened bodhisattvas can get reborn or not at will. In fact, that huddhas also are enlightened bodhisattvas that choose to be.

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Buddhas who appear, who take incarnation, the Mnemonikai Buddhas are Bodhisattvas, wholly developed Bodhisattvas who choose to take incarnation and become a Buddha. An advanced bodhisattva might have the idea, I'm going away and not coming back, but an advanced bodhisattva would know that that's just a concept that's empty. It can itself, it has certain inconsistencies, and it can't go away without coming back. What goes away already comes back. So that bodhisattva would know that that thought has that indication. Or that going away means you're already there, you're already here.

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Or going away means you're already there. Because thinking of going away is already included the place you're going to. Meaning that way. You're already there. You're not going to go someplace else other than the place you just thought of. 40 thoughtless know that. So they die. As a matter of fact, they give rise to death consciousness knowing that. And so their body's all worn out or something. And there's no more fun in the world for them. They don't choose to be entertained anymore. So they give rise to a special consciousness called death consciousness. But they do so like this. To them, it's another illusion, a particular illusion, this one rather than this one.

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But even though it's a big deal for most people, and it's a big, you know, I went like this and I went like this, but if I jumped through the ceiling, and left a big pot of smoke and a big hole in the ceiling, and then I'd talk and I'd yell down to you from the moon. That would also be an illusion, but it's one that's hard to just do like this for a lot of people. Bodhisattvas make these big decisions and think these big-time thoughts, these advanced bodhisattvas, are not beginning bodhisattvas necessarily. They still would, some beginning bodhisattvas would still kind of be surprised or impressed by certain illusions. But anyway, the moment of death, like any other moment, is an opportunity where one could thoroughly penetrate into the reality of what's happening and attain perfect freedom from all conditioned events.

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And still... there could be the continued enjoyment of that, which might mean rebirth, reincarnation. After all, it was because of innumerable reincarnations and rebirths within particular incarnations, it was by means of those that a bodhisattva attained this perfect freedom. Actually, after bodhisattvas are perfectly free, they can still encourse through phenomenal existence indefinitely.

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Until and beyond the time when they're called upon to enact this thing called Nirmana Kaya Buddha. But they're not sort of waiting around to do that. But just if they're called upon to do that, they can do that. Anyway, that's... That's, I think, the most fortunate teaching, because otherwise we'd assume that we're only getting the lower quality bodhisattvas getting reborn here. And then we'd have to go to some other planetary system or some other place to get the good teaching. But we don't choose to look at it that way.

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We say, Shakyamuni Buddha, it's top-of-the-line bodhisattva that decided to be incarnated. in this Saha world and has conveyed to us this perfect teaching. And you can look at it that way, you know, which is kind of historical and relates to the lineage. But you can also say that inherent in the chains, inherent in the bondage, That you ever have. Freedom. The perfect freedom is always there. If you have light. Little paper bonds. You have. A freedom which will work for those. If you have big heavy ones. Made of titanium or something. Or krypton. You have freedom that goes with those.

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So the bigger the bonds. The fancier the freedom. The fancier the bonds. The simpler the freedom. Whatever anyway. we have a freedom to go with a good bond. So it's almost like bondage and suffering provide, make sure that the quality of enlightenment will be high enough. So if we have a world that's relatively free and nobody's really very caught up, you don't need to bring in the really powerful liberations. And therefore, we wouldn't care if these really powerful bodhisattvas were born here. Little wimpy ones would be good enough. Namely, we could be little wimpy ones. But it turns out that there's a strong enough liberation to meet the phenomenal event. They always exist in this very kind of wonderful organic relationship, which we have, you know, we call five ranks in the game.

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The absolute comes out of the phenomenal. The phenomenal comes out of the absolute. You can come forth from the absolute. They can beat each other head on, and they can be totally one. So, we don't need, you know, they're just always this relationship. Big one, little one. Little one, big one. Big one, big one. Little one, little one. They always do this. So great bodhisattvas will come back as necessary, so to speak. Or they'll always be here. And they'll cycle through this phenomena called movement in whatever way is necessary. The five ranks are absolute.

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The five ranks are five relationships. Five ranks are five kinds of relationships between unbiasedness and biasness. Particularity and undifferentiatedness. Undifferentiatedness doesn't mean... It means transcendence of differentiation and involvement in differentiation. or we say relative and absolute. Well, that's what we're here. That's what the object of our practice in Zen is apologetic. study these five ranks. And not getting them is really not a problem.

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This means that you're practicing Zen. That's why you came here, because you don't totally understand the five ranks. So, if you want to study the five ranks, please go ahead and study them. I'd be happy to talk to you about them. But to a to wish to make sense of them in this class is not something we should want to do. I just brought him up to say that there are reasons why we know that we don't need to worry about whether there's some big helpful beings around or something. We don't need to worry that great bodhisattvas are going to go on vacation or something and we'll be left here for... ten seconds or two or three million years without some assistance from these big special beings. Because actually inherent in suffering is its release. So in some way we don't need any help.

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But at the same time, in fact, we do need help. But the help is there. That's why I brought them in. I didn't let them in to that you'd understand them. If you want to understand them, then Study them. Read them. Memorize them. Read the commentaries. Discuss. Make sure you understand what the commentaries are saying and all the terms right and then meditate on them. Then you'll understand. Okay. Anything else on this section? Yeah. Who are they? Would there be that kind of time? If they wanted it, they could have it. They have great creative powers.

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They can think of time just like we can. They're just as smart as we are. In addition to that, they understand the nature of this creation called past, close, and future. They see it as karma. And they voluntarily, intentionally, and determinedly, they choose I'm going to think now. And they go, and it's just exactly what they thought. Namely, it's just exactly what they thought. And that they know that's what thinking is. in the sense of past, present, future. In that sense of time. There's another kind of time which we say, which Dogen teaches, time is being.

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That understanding of time is understanding that time is karma. So when he says time is being, he's teaching you the nature of time, namely time is illusion. which you don't need to do anything with. Just study it. But studying salt jacques isn't studying time. Anything else? Yep. And then pools. and the matrices. Chori is the envelope, the last envelope you're contained in before you're born.

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I guess it's that thing that breaks open just before you're delivered, that sack. Not the uterus, strictly speaking. But the sac the baby's in, inside the uterus. Huh? No, you're not inside the placenta. This placenta's like this, and then it's a sac. The placenta's not the sac. It's this bag that you're in, and then the placenta that's put on the side of it, that's feeding you, that you're getting your blood from and nutrition and air. And there's a sac that wraps around you. It doesn't communicate with you. It just contains the water that you're floating in. That sac is the purring. What? I guess that's what you call it. And it contains the amniotic fluid.

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So I don't know if that's what you call the sac. The purring goes around the placenta. Well, sometimes it breaks a day or two before. The delivery happens. Sometimes it's totally after it breaks. Sometimes it stays intact until shortly before. And actually, I guess people, they're getting the baby's head through it. But oftentimes it breaks a long time before the baby toes come down. Sometimes it's there until... very late. I don't know how late it can be, but sometimes it's there until very, very late part. You can actually see the baby's head and it's still got the back over it.

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But sometimes the waters break. Well, sometimes the waters break five minutes before the delivery, and sometimes they break two days, before an hour, longer than not even. Of course they can break. You know, since it's a membrane, it could have been impartially It could be weak. It could break way early, which is, of course, a problem because you maybe need that fluid to... You can't live too long without that fluid. But anyway, I don't know so much about that stuff. So if you want to know more about it, probably you should take one of Maryland Montgomery's courses. Well, apparitional men and women are being, you know, in this chapter, someplace in this chapter, they discussed the evolution of a kalpa.

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And when a kalpa starts, cosmic era starts, there's no continuity, so... Somebody has to be born after. There's no women walking around with uteruses to give birth to people. It just had this big fire, right? And so there's really nothing, no faith, no physical faith. So the beings born at the beginning of a culpa have to be apparitionally born. Yeah. Well, miraculous, yeah. If you say miraculous, remember that miraculous means the birth. Then you're saying it's miraculous birth to go, be born in a Luka Datu. Oh, heaven. Okay. But miraculous birth, too. So you say miraculous, apparitional, phantom, whatever, magical.

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So if you, um, If you meditate on your breath and you really like it, really get into it, you will project yourself into the Muppadatu. And as a result of this effort, you will be miraculously born into a state of bliss. you'll take an apparitional birth in a state of bliss. And you won't have to, you know, like, develop the various organs and so on to be a full-fledged denizen of that realm of blissful being. You'll have all the characteristics of the other beings there. There won't be a kind of gradation system. Whereas being born in the Chaurian, as you know,

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you're born into it, but you don't have eyes. And so on. Whereas the other beings in that birth, a lot of the other ones do have eyes. And you don't have ears and so on. But then sometime nine months later, you will have eyes and ears. But still they don't operate the way of other people. So there's an evolution. Some parts are left out, some parts are underdeveloped in this womb birth thing. And also in the birth by metamorphosis. What's that word? Yeah, that one. That one also is development. Metamorphosis has changed. What? Ah, because they're hungry.

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They'll devour their husbands and wives, too. But they just mentioned that to show you that they're womb-born. They could have mentioned other things that you wouldn't have been able to know by that that they have, that they can be born by womb. But human beings can be born by womb. Most human beings are born by womb, but some are born apparitionally. Some are born through eggs. So nobody, everybody seems to understand, not everybody, but Nobody's asking any questions about this section, but one question that might occur is why do they teach this or what's the point of all this?

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So what's the point of all this? Yeah. That's one thing. Anything else? Without being born a common doctor, you couldn't do... What do you mean by this? Without having a body, you couldn't do what? Why don't we run through meditation?

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Uh-huh. We wouldn't be able to do those meditations? You say without being, but that's not what you were saying a minute ago. A minute ago you were saying without a body. We're talking about being or not being, because there's being in all this stuff. We're talking about taking bodies. We're talking about being incarnated or having a being in a particular place and being all over the place.

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Mm-hmm. Do you have to take a body to experience these realms? Oh, you don't need a body to experience the other realms? But do some beings take bodies in those realms? Right? So, you can take a body... in a particular realm it turns out you can take a body in a particular realm by different modes as they show here once you take a body in a particular realm you can still experience the other realms but not through taking incarnation in those realms not while staying incarnated in a particular realm so this section shows that actually There's different ways to get into this realm that we're in right now, this incarnation that you're in, and also there's different ways to get into other experiences while staying in this incarnation.

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There's more than one way to get into some of these other forms of experience. So this section particularly will expand your concepts or your sense of mobility. Maybe not some of yours, but Many of you, I think, you didn't think that some of these possible channels of maneuvering were possible. Like many of you didn't know that you could be apparitionally born in Hungry Ghost and womb-born in Hungry Ghost. Now, can you be apparitionally born in Hell? Can you be womb born in hell? Apparitionally born in hell. So the interesting thing about hell is that you can be apparitionally born there.

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Can you be womb born in heaven? Yeah, in common heaven. Apparitionally born in heaven, heaven, or any heaven. Huh? What does it say to that? Huh? Huh? It did say it somewhere? Where does it say it? What? No, womb. Womb. Yeah, womb-born in heaven. Where does it say that? Huh? No, I don't know what I said, but anyway. Womb? Can you be womb-born in divine destiny?

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Only apparitional? So, hell and heaven are only by apparition. So that means without doing anything fancy, when you're a human being, you can go to both. You can be born in both heaven and hell without having to go through any wounds. Mm-hmm. But it's not really another way. We already knew this way, but it's just telling you a little bit more detail about this, and it will help us in the next section. Could you speak up, please?

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She can, but she won't come through a wound. What? We're just saying you're not going through a wound. Oh. You're getting reborn. And you're getting a body, but you don't have to go through a wound. Now, what does a body mean in hell? What does it mean to have a body in hell? What? Well... Yeah, it means sense organ. And... it means five skandas. I mean, there is five skandas in hell, but when I say, I'm specifically singling out what does it mean to have a body in hell?

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You're apparitionally born in hell and you have a body. You're incarnated in hell. But what is that body? What's the body like in hell? What? Suffering, yeah. But that doesn't distinguish it from the other realm. What will this, what will this Distinguish it from the other realms. It regenerates. Get a special body when you get to hell. One that regenerates after getting mutilated. What you get in hell is you get a body that's suited for hell. Don't get your regular human body. Regular human body is very, you know, very touchy. Get rough with it. Pull arms off. That's it. Pull an arm off.

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You know, it's pretty hard to survive. Break the back. Break it again. Pretty soon it's not going to work. Pretty soon you're going to say, I want out. Then you go to hell. And there, and there you don't have to leave when the stuff happens. Break the back, break the back, break the back. And then if you can't stand it anymore, they say, oh, okay, we'll stop for a while. Is it better? Yeah, not bad. Break the back. You get a special body in help. More durable for torture. Special torture body. You get taken out of your regular human body and put on this special, you know, all-equipped shoulder pads. Except the shoulder pads are attached to your body. They're sewn on it. So when they rip off, you take the shoulder with them. You have a kind of protection so that you can experience the torture. And then you can climb up. You know, they have these trees that have these razors pointing down when you're climbing up.

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And now you can climb up all the way up. But then when you get to the top, the razor blade turns around the other way and you go down. But most people wouldn't be able to do that. They would just sit at the bottom and say, I'd quit. I died. I died. Uh, yeah, but they weren't these, you know, modern kinds. They didn't have, uh, they didn't have these kinds. They just shaved on those days. They shaved, they had shaved head in Buddhist days. They also, the Buddhist shaved, And the giant pulled them out one by one. They had both methods for shaping.

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This particular thing of trees with arrows, with the swords or the razor blades pointing down when you're climbing up and pointing up when you're climbing down the... If you look carefully, I think you'll find that this exists in all hells of all religions. Why? Because we think it's all. Whether you're German or Italian or Indian or Chinese, anybody can think that that's all. And therefore, we've got it in our hell. In our human health. And everything we think is nice, that we think is nice, isn't there. So, you've got to have a special body, though, to put up with this stuff. So that's the body you get when you're born in hell. And that body doesn't come through a womb. Do we ever see them?

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Well, we wouldn't necessarily see them as different. We aren't going to see any people that are born apparitionally at the beginning of the pulpa. The pulpa's already begun a while ago. That's the way we feel about it. But we could see some of these other beings that are born from AIDS do that. Particularly, it would probably be easier to do if you went to India. Go to some place where mythology is still very active, and that would help you be able to have these kinds of experiences. These are historical-mythological beings, probably. But once again, you know, we have these beings. Just the fact that they're unacceptable to us here in modern industrial society, Western industrial society, it doesn't mean they're not there, but their existence was, the way they existed was partly to do with the fact that the way they were born.

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Well, these aren't apparitional bodies, these are apparitional births. This is apparition of birth. This is not apparition of body. Our body is not apparition any more than ours is apparition. It has form. It is a body. If a shadow is terrible, they've got a shadow. leading that, because the people that were in hell didn't have shadows for the most apparitional beings. I see. Well, maybe they did. It's possible. They do have a shadow. Well, they don't have a shadow in hell, which, um, God was down in heaven because she died in the power of death, which one was a, um,

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Virgil and they have shadows, but the other people didn't have shadows. Oh, Virgil had a shadow and the other ones didn't. Oh, you're talking about which of the beings in hell are actual beings and which of them are just sort of scenery. Right? This is saying that all beings born in hell are born in apparition. Born apparition. In other words, you're born just through imagination. Okay? You don't have to go through a womb. And you're fully developed as soon as you're born. Alright? Apparitional birth. But it's not an apparitional being. You're saying that in hell there's an apparitional being in addition. And they won't have shadows. Okay? So that means that they're like the scenery of hell. Hell's got this wallpaper with these beings on the wall who look like... So actually you're like in one small room, right? And it's got this landscape where all these other beings who are being tortured are out there, you know? being ripped apart and stuff. And those don't have shadows because they're just like painted.

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You have a shadow because it's scary. Or anyway, it's part of the equipment that makes you believe that you're being tortured. So there's landscape hell, but it's not physical landscape. So what What sounds to me like Dante's talking about is that your experiences are always full-bodied. But some experiences don't cast shadows. Like in your dreams, sometimes you're out in the sun, and you're nice and warm and stuff, and you look at a palm tree, but the palm tree doesn't throw a shadow. You just don't paint the shadow. You just got a palm tree just sitting there. Sun's shining and sunny all around the palm tree. Matter of fact, you might walk around it and say, God, this is a really neat palm tree. You can sit under it and it doesn't interfere with your tan.

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As a matter of fact, it doesn't have a shadow. It doesn't have any shade, but it's cooler under it. But it's a really good palm tree. It provides shade of a certain type. It doesn't interfere with your tan. Now, that would mean probably more than a palm tree you'd have in heaven. inhale they probably have palm trees that you don't get suntan but it's really hot all around them now this is making Dante into a Buddhist but I give him credit for it for having thought pretty well he just made this thing up in it Because they had hot and cold hell, but Christian hell is usually a hot hell, isn't it? If Dante had a cold hell, Christianity had a cold hell. Hmm?

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I know. You've got your Bible so much, but hot and cold hell, do you? No, I don't. But what I'm saying is that Dr. Dante wrote that thing. What he said hell was was more what hell is than what... He wrote that at a time when people didn't have the Bible. So for most people in Italy that could read Dante, a lot more people could read Dante than could read the Bible. That's what hell was. He read it. He told people what hell was. So for Christians, I don't know who's the Christians in Italy, but anyway, after Dante wrote that, his hell... most of what hell was, people, their idea of hell. They had their own idea of hell before they told them that they had that. But I'd say his picture of hell was more influential than the Bible's at that time. And just like Shakespeare, his version of history is in some ways more influential than the history books version of it.

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Like, does Richard III have a humpback? or not. He does that. Was he homosexual or not? Well, he was, wasn't he? Shakespeare's more powerful than historian. But he screwed it all up. Historians are mad at him. But Dante maybe didn't follow the Bible, but to but his hell, or his heaven, I think are the more influential hells in heavens. Maybe now people don't read Dante anymore and they're starting to read the Bible more, so maybe the Bible's version will be more powerful. But these are just books that tell you about your own experience, actually. And your own experience is better, because still, I mean, these razor blades and stuff like that, they're just...

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They're just kind of, what do you call it, approximations, kind of metaphors of terror. And actually terror comes in much more. Terror comes in these liquor bars, you know. So there's terror in all kinds of situations, but if you're going around looking for these trees with the blades pointing down, you're kind of, that's not really the point. Hell's more available than that. You know, it's all over. It can be any place, because it's not a location, and you see it doesn't have to be painted in any particular way. But you can see that if it were like that, that's what hell's like. These are examples of hell, but it's endless. I didn't say health bodies were womb born.

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No, do not take born. Apparitional born. Health bodies are born apparitional. you do get a body. In other words, you get a sense system. The body, the human body is not, this isn't the human body like this. This isn't what you inherit. You don't get this. Okay? That's not the body that the five skandas get. Okay? The body that you get, this body here, this thing here, this is everybody's, right? This visual thing belongs to all of us. doesn't belong to me any more than you. I didn't make this any more than anybody else. Okay? But that's not my body. Except as we all make it. Alright? The body that you get in hell is particularly the sense system.

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That's what you yourself make. Now it does have, it also, you can see, and smell and taste it, that's true. But it's also the sense system, special sense system. Now the body then can regenerate, and a regular human body can't. So you can pull arms off and so on, and they grow back. Oh, yeah, that's right. But the kind we repeat, the kind we repeat is more subtle. It's not having arms ripped off. That kind of thing, when you do that, you can't repeat it. Now some of that gets in, maybe they can't put arms back on, but basically there's certain kinds of torture and certain kinds of really bad torment that you can't experience in the human realm.

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Your body won't, you don't have capacity. That's right. As the, what do you call it, the, what do you call it, the steamroller, as the steamroller is rolling over your body, at that moment, you're in hell.

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