After Generations Of Nobility, Temporarily Fallen Into Poverty

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Buddha nature. Story about Uncle Mi and Dongshan discussing a rabbit crossing the road.Lotus Sutra story about the destitute child. Enlightenment and delusion. Human agency (or training) and awakening. Enlightenment is always present although we do not know it. We are born into the Buddha family but we don’t know it and we can’t know it via human agency. What kind of effort is necessary? In Dongshans school, we need do training to understand that this is our nature but thinking we will get something or get better out of training is a mistake. Training can help us understand that.

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thank you very much i like to start by telling you a story

you could say it's a classical zen story in the sense said it's one of the stories that we look back to and we've been looking back to this story for quite awhile the story occurred in the tong die
honesty more than a thousand years ago
and it's been repeated and written down ever since

it's a story about ah one of our classical zen teachers
his name as dung schon leon j

his name was dumb sean and still is don't shine
he's sometimes credited as
the founder of the lineage named after him and his disciple
the sodom dumb score or the soto school of zen one of the five schools of then

it's a story about him and one of his
dime of friends who is an elder
who he kind of looked to as an uncle so this elders name was sung me
and he's called uncle me
so one day dunk sean and his spiritual uncle me were walking along

and a white rabbit
ran by in front of them
and uncle me said
and don't shine said
and on comey said like a commoner
being directly appointed as a prime minister

and don't shine said to his uncle me
so venerable and great are you
and yet you say such words
and me said what by you
and don't shine said
of nobility temporarily fallen into poverty
these two
close friends are providing somewhat to kind of different ways of looking at
the buddha way

one way is
that one might be a commoner
an ordinary person

and one might be swiftly go from being an ordinary person to big prime minister of china

the other view is
that after
generations of nobility
one has fallen temper reverently into poverty

one view is that we can go quickly it's possible to go quickly from being an ordinary deluded
unenlightened living being
to a great awakened one

this is kind of sounds like good news that we can go quickly from being deluded person to being
the someone who is enlightened beyond personhood
oftentimes we understand that it might take quite a while to go from being a deluded person to being a fully awakened one
in the chinese
world for a long time they've had like officials who advise the emperor and who advised the emperor and help govern the country but the officials are people who go through a very long
long process of training
you don't go quickly from being a commoner to being a prime minister
however it is it was possible for commoners
if they really applied themselves to study
they could learn various skills they could learn the description that that that the sacred texts of the tradition they could learn calligraphy they could learn music they could learn horseback riding and they can learn all these skills
and become a minister and they had various levels of have exams one level to love and if they passed one level of exam they could go to the next one passed out when they go to the next one by going through all these levels of examination one could become a minister and then one could
would eventually become a senior minister and a prime minister
and it conceivably could happen in one lifetime very rarely maybe it happened maybe once or twice in the history of china usually someone is born into a
of educated people and then you get education your family and then you go through this
steps and stages of elevation and increase skill but there are stories about people who were like peasants
but somehow had this
of energy and intelligence
and those are wonderful stories about these commoners who
learn these techs who read them and after they finish them had already memorized them their stories like that
and in the course that's quite impressive so than people give them more opportunities and then they again
impressively learned and got again again and they rows and rows and rows and one from being a peasant commoner on it up uneducated to being the most educated person in the huge empire
their stories like that
now who can be saying that is possible to go
rapidly from being a commoner to a prime minister
swiftly swift
and i'm shannon says to his elder who you still talk like that
how about you
after generations of nobility temporarily fallen into poverty after generations of great enlightenment
after generations of in inconceivable wealth
temporarily fallen into poverty
that's not a matter of fast that's faster than fast
that's what you already are
we already are
fully in possession of the wisdom and virtues of the buddha's
and we have temporarily fallen into
being destitute of that great wealth of our true nature


the view on comey's the usual view of going from being ordinary
to being extraordinarily wise
from being a commoner to a sage
by means by means by some means
of cultivation and cultivation is related to the word till calls to the called hill tilling working the earth cultivation cultivation of one of our life
we make the transition from commoner
to sage by working on ourself
by mean by some means we go
by some means some expedient means some provisional temporary means is applied to our situation and we can move forward through various stages to being
a buddha prime minister

here is an opportunity for human agency we can do something
and people often wanna know something to do
what can i do
to become buddha

like tell me a story about what i can do it become buddha and then stories are told but this is the story
that you don't have to do anything to become buddha
you're already there
but you have a tendency to want to do something to get to where you're already are
the other way is to start with enlightenment and then enter ordinariness
that's our actual from the point of of gung on that's our actual situation is that we start
with great wisdom and compassion
and then that great wisdom and compassion enters into ordinariness so anybody got the ordinary under saddam
okay do you got some ordinariness
got some interesting conversations going
got some fear
an agreed hate and delusion this is ordinariness
this has been this is what are
true nature has entered
so we've temporarily are in this ordinariness
and the end in the the entering into ordinariness from enlightenment is not done by human agency
it's done by it's done naturally is it's not done by work
by cultivation it's done by nature are nature
on nature
plunges into
the ordinary situation

so one is by one way it a practice is to go from orderliness
to sage hood by means of something by means of cultivation the other is to go from sage hood to ordinariness naturally by our nature our nature is that on the enlightenment
knows that it needs to enter into ordinariness
for the full working of enlightenment can be realized
and this comment by duncan is also a reference to a story from the lotus sutra
which i told before
about a child of a very wealthy family
we are all children have an inconceivably wealthy family
the family of the buddhas and bodhisattvas we are children of that family we are bodhisattvas
but even know it even though we have been for generations we have not realized it
so part of our nature is to realize it and part of the way we realize it
is by wandering away from it
wandering away from the great wealth of our buddha family
which we are born into not even born into which is our nature which is what we're really are is to be in his family
but we we don't we haven't realized it so part of realizing it is to wander away from it
it's part of the process of realization is to wander away from what we really are and as we wander
we become destitute so the story in the of soup just called the desperate to child it's about a child born into wealth who wanders away who doesn't understand his family and wanders away and becomes more and more destitute and desperate
he's a person of great nobility who enters ordinariness in order to realize his nobility
but the first stage of realizing the nobility is to feel very ordinary
and then he gets then he enters into a training
and the in the training he goes slowly from being ordinary to prime minister
he goes through a long process of training
an order to move back into his home which he took cannot enter into when he first returned to it
and finally he enters into his home
and realizes his family on he finally understands what his family is and now he's not going to wander away
because he can accept and realize realize and accept his
true family is true nature
and he realizes that he's always been in that family throughout the entire course of his training
so although we golf we may go on this trip
when when we finally realize our family we realize
that we've always been at the family the whole way through
and that really we came from that family and entered this poverty in order to develop the skills we need
to fulfill our nature
so are
a real nature
are yeah are real state naturally
mixes with the ordinary

art are great wealth naturally gives itself away and enters into poverty
and then in poverty
he starts it starts to work itself what's working this wealth is working and poverty in order to realize that the poverty is never separate from the wealth and the wealth is never suffer from the poverty
children born into wealthy families do not understand that their wealth or includes poverty
they must wander away from the wealth into poverty in order to verify
that the wealth is there in all poverty

i can say and maybe i will some day say more about what it's like when you come from the buddha family into poverty what the practices like there
what this but this is the practice of coming from wealth into the poverty and practicing the wealth in the poverty rather than coming from poverty getting over your poverty and going into wealth
seriously to student cannot charlie you have been patient maybe
yes shirley

just a second try
we have we ever got an acoustic issue here
parents of transition

i've done by
is it still
okay did you say would you say the from the beginning again that the transition or the movement or the trip the path from
two ordinariness you talked about that that does not done by human agency it's done by the nature of awakening go then you said something like is that movement a result of human agency did he say he says yes
using know
when he just said yes to what i said
henderson the transition from well how he was out here
the are that well was it
are authentic authentic
tourists of being a party or wrong
our die and fall by and yet or may not be sold
transforming our our
do with her as small i guess for me
the the real state
the real state is
the buddha way that's are reared that's a real nature but part of our real nature is
to ah
plunge from there into human agency
the human agency is ordinariness
it's ordinary him for human beings to be into human action and human agency so you go from from beyond human agency and freedom from human agency and awakening
in the middle of human agency having a great awaken in the middle of it you then re-enter it because this awakening wants all human agency to wake up to its nature so it plunges back in
but it's not a result of human agency it's dependent on human nature agency
because the purpose of this awakening is to liberate human humanity humans from been caught up in human agency which is also called human karma
once plunged back into the human agency
this ah
this or this great function of awakening may look like
a training program
where somebody's using their agency to during various kinds of exercises however
there's also the understanding that the awakenings already there and we're not going anyplace were just integrating it with you know human delusion so that there can be another awakening
in the midst of further delusion
the quick well
it could be
it could be eventually that's one story that's one story of human agency is eventually but actually from the first moment of plunging it's already there
however the human agency may be not ruling to let that be revealed it wants to do stuff so another story from the lotus sutra is
story i told you about the story is destitute child that's another story
the hidden the jewel hidden in the robe
once upon a time there was a person who had a rich friend who was a rich you know official in the government or something
and he he went to visit his friend and they had dinner his friend gave him food and wine
in this person got completely drunk and passed out
and suddenly the wealthy official was called away on urgent business
and he couldn't wake his friend of he had to go fast he tried to wake us for you could add he may be tried to wake his friend up
i'm given a present
but it didn't work out that way had to leave but before he left he took a priceless jewel
and a priceless wish fulfilling jewel
and sewed it into the hammers were of his robe and left
and when the man woke up from his stupor his friend was gone in and somebody maybe i told him that he was taken away on urgent business and that man went on to live his life and guess what happened to him
he fell into destitution
he had a really hard time
and then
bring in this way for quite a long time here if he met his friend and his friend was really shocked to see his
his state of destitution and misery
and pointed out to him that during this whole time he had been an inconceivably wealthy person
that he had a jaw worth kingdoms in his room
he would he was a rich man who for some reason other had to become very very poor all the while being very rich
and then the hand he found out on a rich man
yes why think of frontage they were know
i'm i don't know
i'm no but one other facet of this story is
that it echoes was a comment that ah
one of our ancestors named a hey dogan you know hey hey kosovo to come on a so a caso said when we inherit the precious
we always do so when we're drunk

when we when we are born into the boot of family
our membership in the film is given to us when we're drunk
so there we are being born in there but we don't we don't get it
our human agency does not comprehend
the blessedness of our life
our human agency is a state of like drunkenness where we can go in of it and were so drunk with we we think we could actually understand who we are who we are as far beyond anybody's human agency to understand
and that's drunkenness is still what we're doesn't stop us from receiving this gift and it could come with or without notes
but even if it came without with a note we still wouldn't understand
i would say
the point of view of the ordinariness are commonly is there a difference of the kind of effort is required
well there could be a difference from the book from if if you if if you had a if you've done john with your teacher and what's he taking you he's teaching you you want to you want to pray with me do you understand that after generations of nobility you your new you're going to train with me and you're going to be like not undergo
standing that you're a normal person you don't like you right now i'm telling you that you don't believe me
right that's why you need training could you don't get it that during the that this is your nature
right so if you if you in the process of this training if you start happening like you're gonna get better
or get something or this training then i'm gonna teaches that does not appropriate to the streaming did you follow that
so i don't have done sounds your teacher don't how it's gonna help you understand that you're already fully possessed of wisdom and virtues and you'd and yacht you don't understand that yet and one of the ways don't show is going to help you understand it is by seeing if you think and if there's any sign that you're trying to get something
i'm trying to get a better teacher or better practice situation where a better work assignment
for a better understanding
so don't i would help you have to cultivate not trying to get anything because you're already there
but you probably because you have forgotten that you're already there you're probably going to try to get there
and don't just going to notice or you seem to be trying to get where you are isn't if i'm using to be trying to get where you are to get in the place where you are to get where you are to arrive where you are and to understand where you are even know there's something off about that
it's dualistic is hell if the impure
but i'm in a big but since i'm talking to a great person i will be very respectful when i point out to you
that your contradict me or nature by trying to get something other than what you are
maybe uncle me would let the person
get better and better and better
i don't know but even if uncle me did that would still be the way on comey's
true nature was acting like a commoner
commoners do usually think in terms of getting better improvement getting richer getting smarter and also getting stupider and poor
but even now
we may be seem to be poor
our our basic constitution is still present we can never get rid of the fact
the fact that the whole universe has gone to a universal trouble of making us what we are
without the slightest error moment by moment and we being what we are
support the whole universe
and there's no way that there can be any sticking or lack of openness and wisdom and compassion in that nature
there's no way to get stuck in anything
that's like
i've been totally what we are is what boot it is and what we asked being totally what we are is nothing in and of itself if the whole universe in this way
and i'm ah
told him he be are
thank you for loving it guess and i hope that love isn't liking
it's pure attention now and
the question arose in my head
once one schemes this escape scapes was one just track
nos one wants one distract straps or scapes skating is it is a form of distraction yes once one straps scapes learns the possibility of scale and disruption yes
and i'm theory
when one learns
i have a thought of believe that when one learns to stay in order not to escape
must realize that absoluteness of the price
that takes
in order not to distract itself and i can say maybe i don't know
hey how harmful how
horrible it is
therefore i distract myself again i don't know the pain of but when i actually actually know it the actuality of that pay will stop nothing else will stop

don't do the way the way to know the pain
of trying to get away from ordinariness the way to know it
is to apply the compassion which we already possess to ply the compassion to the up to the attempt to escape
to the attempt to distract from where we are
by applying compassion to the where we are and also apply compassion to try to get away from where we are we more and more subtle into accepting where we are
that we can be here with this incredibly alive situation
that's so alive that we need to train ourselves to be in it
so then we can sit in the middle of this life
in such a way
that we turn the wheel of dharma
by being with what's happening including being with every attempt to escape
to be completely totally into trying to escape
when we're trying to escape to be totally completely into distraction
but the way to be totally into the escape
which realizes the liberating dharma wheel turning
we have to be compassionate to the attempt to escape to the intent to get rich to the attempt to get better to the attempt to get something
now i just by briefly mentioned
before i just briefly mentioned and we can talk about this more later or for now i just say that someone asked me recently in another state of this great country
are not even enlisted but in more the since centre part of the country someone said to me i'm no i've i've been practicing just sitting for quite a few years this person said to me and other words i'm a soto zen student i practiced just sitting
just being myself completely and recently i've been starting to practice mindfulness
and he said me what's the difference between mindfulness
and just sitting
but maybe he didn't say that maybe he said how are mindfulness and just sit in the same
but i didn't get into how they're different
i don't know if he asked me that but i didn't get into other different i got into harder the same how are mindfulness practices and just sitting
the same
how are badr a yano practices and just sitting the same
how is judaism and
i'm just sitting the same how was christianity and just sitting the same
get the picture
mindfulness is just sitting when you practice mindfulness without trying to get anything

how is being me and just sitting the same oil you know already know when you're totally yourself you're just sitting how are they this how are that that's the same
so how how is just being me the same as just sitting while when you're being you without trying to get anything like some people are trying to be themselves and trying to get something out of them that isn't really being yourself
like okay i'm i'm trying to get something okay just be that without trying to get something from front of beef get something
the trying to get something is a distraction inconceivably welsh like some people are really rich but they're not as rich as we are and they're still trying to get richer have you noticed some people are billionaires and they're trying to make deals to get more billions that's because they don't know how rich
they are
because they haven't accepted their poverty
so the wealth realizes itself by going into poverty and completely being poor and then realizing that the wealth was always there
but we seem to need to get poor in order to realize how rich we are
but also to help other people realize it
hard practice
it's the same as all other practices or not trying to get anything from my practice and it's the same as those practices when you're not trying to get anything from them
just a minute somebody else had there and kim you didn't know that cushions behind your yes
people hear that

can i repeat what you said guy repeat what you said you were pitted against more slowly
well i understand that
trying to get something
trying to avoid something trying to avoid something is an aversion i'm trying to get something you're trying to get avoidance
so trying to get something trying to avoid something those both of those are calling for compassion

right in order to fully be this wanting
the game something are fully be wanting to get rid of something in order to fully be wanting to get rid of something we have to be compassionate to it and compassion does not wanna get rid of the impulse to get rid of and compassion does not wanna get rid of
the impulse to try to get something and compassion also doesn't try to get
try to get something at this let's try to get something be and therefore it led something and lets the impulse to get something to be totally itself and when as totally itself it realizes
that it's already got
all it can ever bowed and already has the whole universe is already has it's already beyond getting anything it's already inconceivably wealthy and awake
we have to be compassionate to all of our distractions from being here
an order to completely let our distractions be and discover that right in the middle of our distraction were completely there
so buddha sits in the middle of all distractions
and lets them all be buddha sits in the middle of all the flames of of escapism which aren't all the flames of unkindness all the flames of trying to get away from what's going on that's where buddha sits and demonstrates not running away from any of it
and we are in that family of demonstrating and realizing and waking up and entering into not running away from life
and we come in to and that freedom comes into all the flames in order to liberate all the flames of escapism
talking about challenges the well
no generations of nobility falling into poverty and i've also said temporarily
your eternally
rich children you're a rarely and as family
but we temporarily for the sake of realizing our nature which is that we're in this family for the sake of realizing it we plunged into poverty
to awaken in the middle of poverty to our wealth because will just in our were just in our wealth we don't get it when were little kids were or if we weren't supported by the universe we would not be alive people put up with us we were a lot of work if we didn't get taken care of coin
a bit none of us would be alive now everybody can criticizing our caregivers but basically the whole universe including are lousy caregivers
supported us
but we don't we didn't get that so we had to go away and get in more trouble and more suffering and then start to spin practice compassion and then we wake up to the all along we were in buddhist family
from our family but totally includes our family
you're welcome my question is that for my question is that when i hear that my my first one to lot why it's almost like you don't want and many of restaurant so once to one answer to in his brokerage account is thicken it thickens the plot
cannot turn thicken the plot thickens the plot
and the why
the why is for the sake of realization because again when we're born into this we don't get it
the babies do not understand all the support they're getting
they don't get it they know that they don't want their mother to leave
but they don't understand that when their mothers and the other room she still loves them and still supporting them they don't get it
and then they doing and they don't have them
they have to go away and the way the mother supporting them is just a tiny little example of how the whole universe is supporting

can i would you pass them to me please

this fell down from heaven
i think the part of heaven fell down from was in the upper left-hand corner of that older this the this can be a work project to re-insert this in that place on the altar
this this event
was was delivered to us
under the auspices of the entire universe
and yeah so
i would say that
the whole we we we seem to need to go away from reality in order to realize it
strange thing about humans is that an order to realize what we are we have to go away from it and return to it so on buddhism the first basic three practices are the refuges which means returning
practices of returning i'd take refuge in buddha means i return to buddha
i return to dharma i returned to sanga
oh what am i return because i think i because i didn't understand and i wandered away
or even i tried to escape
so part of the process is were born into the triple treasure we don't understand it and an order to understand it we seem to need to go away from it and then we gradually come back but even over gradually coming back we never really left so the
wandering away and returning are really
provisional teachings really were always at home really were always wealthy
but we need to realize that in order to help this wealth part of his wealth is to help everybody realize this well
but that's not answer the question why yes
understand that
i just sort of
let go and feel my way
and i can't decide the destiny
okay so we gotta we got here work and not work those are both calling for compassion if you skip over that than you can get into trying to figure something out
but before you try to figure something out and you've all you've been asked twice or in two different realms you've been asked her compassion which you passed up on and so they you don't forget about compassion for these critters i'm gonna go try to find out what to do
so you switch from compassion to human agency however once you've done that once you pass up on those two chances of work and not work and shifted over to figure out what's what we would what's the right way or something
oh yeah now you can try to figure out how to let go where the way to let go is to be compassionate to work at not work when you do you like go and then you won't have to figure out running go
but if you haven't if you if you refuse to practice compassion towards work and not work and then you switch to let him go than you can be compassionate to let him go because you can't let go letting go is interfered with not really but per temporarily temporarily letting go is in
interfered with by lack of compassion to holding on holding onto what holding on to figure out where it can not work
so i'm trying to figure out how to let go
but it's never too late to start practicing compassion with what's going on how some people are like into work and they're not practicing compassion other people are into not work and are not practicing compassion other people are into i'm lazy other people are into maybe i'm being lazy you have some other possibilities right
endless things where it can be into that all calling for compassion and if you and when you're into whatever you're into you're sitting in the middle of it
and if you practice compassion with it the what you're into which is all the flames and the universe around you when you parts compassion their the wheel of dharma will start turning
that doesn't mean we get rid of work and not work lazy overwork underworld figure it out let go all that letting go however will happen if you practice compassion with everything that's around you
you'd be so busy practicing compassion you won't have any time to hold onto anything and in fact you realize you never were holding onto anything cause you're so rich you so rich you can't hold on anything you are so overwhelmed with wealth
that you can't get anything and you can't try to get anything you just totally overwhelmed by the universe as you
we are the universe overwhelming and a particular way
and practicing compassion with everything in the universe we realize that
it's so wonderful yes
is done
have you seen her passion
i think grandmother mind is like wanted to call
grandma's are mine and compassion are a little bit different grandmother mind is like correlate like the key compassion
like some people i've heard about compassion and they think it's really a good idea for some people
and in some situations
you know never liked that
i've some people say even them even great villains are sometimes have feel some compassion for their grandchildren
some don't but you know they feel compassion to their mother or their uncle arthur the the their son of their daughter or their dog a lot of people lot of great villas
several great great villains they hate everybody but their dog but they do have compassion for their dog and at their dog's sick they like really make an effort to really be kind and gentle their dog even though their dog may be really sick and and kind of scared and nepotism
almost everybody sometimes wants to be compassionate to somebody okay now what's grandmother my grandmother mind is like the mind which knows
that they have no exceptions that everything's asking for compassion and you really want to practice compassion with everything
grandmother mind is like it's not like both sometimes i'm going to be nice to my grandchildren but not other times if they're if they're behave in the an app and appreciate my gifts to them i'll practice more giving
practice giving more compassion to them because they said thank you grandpa
but if they don't say thank you i'm gonna give up on 'em
grandma's and mind doesn't let that happen so grandmother mind keeps us on track
because it's very clear
every moment of daily life is an opportunity to practice buddha dharma sangha there's no exceptions as grandmother my grandmother mind is playing mature at mature mind that guy's compassion
when it's operating it it doesn't let compassion ever get missed
so grammar the is like sort of for people who are you know matured in their practice of compassion it's not exactly compassion itself but sort of is but it's a high level of compassion
and some great ancestors who are compassionate to vegetables and monks and fire and rice and water and you know they are plotted compassion that great service to many people
but they thought there was something more to buddhism than that
they didn't have good they didn't have a coat
grandma's mind enough yes
well does she still
okay so emily
he got some supporters
yosemite falls the pounds of sad and he said me
is like even think about come up with
stream that maybe issue like this one little job her
the back into the river
not just like
very nice is that waterfall to teach us that
i guess just the fact that them
i would say that we can know with up you know we can know that in a way that's beyond the sensation but doesn't eliminate the sensation
so this the way we're rich is not within reach of our sensation but it's the way that the sensation as rich
are including some sensations that are really difficult to be present with
like this illness is really difficult to be proud to present with but there was a great tool in this illness
pardon been falling
yes hmm
this is incredible wealth in all the things
some and some of them are things which we try to get away from
but by trying to get away from we don't realize the jewel in them which is there the whole the whole two thousand and feet all the whole the hallway the jewel and why does each one of those drops and is a little you know if you look at it is actually a shiny like you right ready out all those colors are and it it is all the her
little jewels
but somehow some of them we sometimes try to escape from
but the trying to escape is another jew has another drop
and that by being compassionate to try to escape were discovered the jewel and that
there is that
dear little
if if it hits the decision we sure that it is
he just says to me it
oh we have suggested
hmm well
one might think that one is that one is a sentient being
and one might see somebody else and think oh as warrior she's a sentient being
his gloria part of the universe by a chance
does she
is that what i've been here is that are you part of the universe
here's a theory yeah so that's a theory that were part of the universe that the universe is partly sentient beings like us
and that the universe has made the sentient beings we're we're a creation of the universe
well if we're accretion of university in the universe you can say is least at least partially
sencha but what about the stuff but it doesn't look sentient
well if it made us
then words where it's children
and if it's are apparent if the parent if parent of sentient beings
is not the zero a sentient being but it's also totally in all the sentient beings like we have a carbon molecules of carbon atoms in is right our carbon atoms central banks
it's the the the sentient beings can distinguish between center to insurgent
but isn't the buddha way is basically not been caught in any of those discriminations
which if which could be analyzed and seen as nonsense
we totally include so-called non living beings
living beings totally including non living beings and are surrounded by non living things which make the living beings so we make them we make all the we make the whole universe which made us into us the whole universe is us we are the whole universe we are sentient
but we can also be not sentient
we can also not be caught by our sentence because in fact where the whole universe so there's no place for to be caught because were everywhere

that happened a long time ago
except yours post a week first or maybe you are and i'm from i'm smart i'm smiling when he winked i smiled i shouldn't went back sorry yes oh look here's a flower
i held up a flower maybe it's a chrysanthemum right
so she winked unintentionally i went back and held up a flower yes
i'm may i share a story about the neilson family
having or experiencing well in poverty
kushiro charlie
a story from her
it is it yeah yeah
and so my son is a drummer and was going to wear
a play and get a trio jazz trio one of his first gifts a paycut and he wanted to take his newest drumset set which is not portable he has at what they call it a cocktail drum kit which is portable and has all the protect
the pads and
so he asked my has been a night in he could take while he actually said i'm i'm going to take my he travel kit and my husband said have no your ear you're not going to take that you can transport it
properly and i've said oh bless
let's discuss it let's sit down and and time
and let's practice the buddha way he said yes so we were wealthy it and away if we went into poverty
a strong opinions coming out and and my has been a
and this is sad that he yields to me
because i think he's afraid
sometimes of so
it was leaning towards he could take the drop said that he has if there are consequences to mad whenever those darn
our consequences and my husband was showing me
there was welfare that i see
in the conversation so my husband needed to go back to work i needed to get something in the garage so i'm
we hadn't come to her decision
so we're out in the garage and my husband turns to here he says he out alone
just why do you do this why do you feel supported i don't feel bad and i said to him and you you're not going to put this on me
and so here we are in poverty and in that lonely
i thought i can say that because he doesn't put it on
and i think i might have said
i'm not going to put it on you for i can put it on you so there was welfare and realizing that we're doing this together
so then i said an excuse me
any some adjustment here have it he said there was wealth there and us realize and what
i'm realizing that were not independent right there's welfare okay yes i agree however there was wealth there in the poverty to
like i'm putting this on you
you're putting this on me that wealth there too but and then you send you something happened and you saw you discovered the wealth so the wealth was there yes but way you said that mummy think we you're talking like the wealth wasn't there before
now if you said there's poverty here i would say yeah yeah
temporary poverty
generations of wealth and sometimes you wake up home were rich
and even in that
does well done not yet
but if you not compassion to over were rich you don't save you it is about mr wealth however in the poverty the wealth is present
however if we're not compassionate to the poverty we seem to miss the presence of the wealth
if we're not compassion to our delusions
we seem to miss the wisdom which is already there which has never goes away we just temporarily
i have lapses where we don't practice compassion with was given to us
and then we missed the wealth
but it's there we just miss it
and we need to miss it
in order to than realize when did i forgot to be compassionate than with the compassion and then we discovered again over and over so that's like seemed like a training process but really is the training process in remember where we already are over and over it's not going any place is piss various level
of resistance to being where we should be which is where we are
so we go from own as poverty now oh yeah that's in the welfare and and then also think oh now there's wealth
go you
and a moment ago i thought there wasn't as interesting
and i can i can recover i can recover i can recoup their can be recovery from
this is poverty and as no welfare we can recover from that
because we're already have a were already there so
i made a mason man continue yeah so my voice was a little raise and i'm still checking i wanna say i've seen fears that
and maybe maybe earth titles that era my first and then i said the conversation never is finish the conversation is the ongoing so what do you think let's go back in there and sit down and think and talk support and so we did
and the conversation continued a lifestyle myself being impatient because each of us were talking and i felt like we were just
talking but there was no resolution there was no no no resolution
and now there was no end of the conversation
i am we i think we all want make an end to the covers and ngo then curl was able to express prison
well hey my car was able to express his pain around
one feeling the wanting something and am
his parents
what do you something else and so we were able to
continue the conversation he ended up taking faith
a conversation between you and the conversation continues even though
even though
this is a very whole holy rome
even though the rises in the middle of conversation a wish to come to a conclusion
down to
complete to come to a completion of this process as part of arm
is that we want to come to completion
and that's another thing too
the compassionate towards but it does kind of interfere with us
realizing our situation is that we're trying to complete the pack
which is open ended
but you got over that he somehow the you said
you do you announced that the conversation is not is open ended and then after you a non-stick you felt like you'd like it to be concluded
and then you recovered from that over and over we can recover we can recover from wanting
i'm wanting completion wanting the end of suffering
we can recover from that by being compassionate to the suffering and also the wanting the lv the wanting to end it
so he say you know delusions are inexhaustible i vowed to end them i've told you i have a problem with that bow and it's word his delusion it but of the word is greed hate and delusion afflictions are boundless
so i think a better translation would be i vowed to go to the end of them
and the way you go the to the end of affliction
is by compassion
by great compassion compassion in which will just keep going to the end even though there's no end it's a okay i'll be here with you
as long as you call me
going to end of it
but were training at that we we sometimes feel like that's enough you know that's enough
it's not broken drum sets
by the way i think that i'm not sure i keep meaning to look it up again but i think i heard suzuki roshi say and reference to the story where says after generations of nobility temporarily fallen into poverty i think that the image there is the image of broken hair
pretty close hair things hair combs
so in in china day the aristocratic lady have a ladies have these beautiful hair combs which used to be made like from rhinoceros
with all kinds of jewels in them
a tourist crowds were these amazing hair do's with all this stuff in it says part of the image of the
of this temporary fall is these precious jewels that sort of been broken
they can seep in the jeep broke jewels the aristocratic a couture mom but broken and temporarily fallen into
some help
but still i know we have some we want to take care of the trump says and the her and hair combs
take care of them
but also remember that even if they get broken
our basic situation has not been
hampered or hosp
and this is our great challenge right so difficult
and i'm i've got a lot of clothes on as you may have noticed
i'm getting quite warm
i'm practicing being compassionate to this warm feeling
if which is similar to on the verge of passing out