April 22nd, 2017, Serial No. 04366

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Um, first of all, is anyone happy to volunteer to be the corpse? If anyone doesn't want to get caught by the video camera, let me know and I'll point it away from you. Norbert, is it correct that we probably should wait if I have some more Japanese naples to plant? Is it probably better to wait to plant them until next fall? It depends on the level of care they get for the next two months. So it's possible. They need a lot of care.

[01:01]

Say that again? They would need a lot of care. It's possible. It needs some special care. So it is easier to do it in the winter because you know it takes, you know, to give them so much care in the winter. So this, I just want to point out one of the things that we brought from the rain gulch. It's through from a little bathing in the yard out in front of the house. There's maybe six more back there. And Karen. I don't think you need these. You do need these, but we don't have to do it. Right, Amanda? Karen is going to point out, so we have the person on the sheet, right?

[02:07]

They also have stronger sheets for moving. That's what I use this for. I just pull it. So you can do this double. Yes. So she's putting this sheet doubled up, so you want to make either a double sheet like this, doubled over, or have these stronger sheets that they use in the hospitals. This is pretty strong. So it would be nice to have a chute that's strong enough so that we can actually lift the person up in the coffin with the chute.

[03:44]

Does that make sense? Yes. Good to have. So both for washing them and also for lifting them up and putting them someplace else. And you can also put these in at this time, when you start moving. Okay, so let's do that after we put... And the person could possibly be dying with their rocks on or not. And if not, would we... If a person had received either a rock suit or in a case of... After we do the...

[04:50]

Washing and putting on the clean clothes and put their Roxy on. Fitting that would stay on. Up until the cremation, as possible at the cremation time, there might be a special Roxy that they said they wanted to be burned or buried. So you could have one that's on either the whole time or part-time and then a new one put on at the time of the issue. So now the person has died, so then we bring in water and soap, or rather soap in the water. It could have some kind of a scent in the water. Yes. One person I saw had a jaw that would fall open, and so there were times that they had to remove the jaw to actually stick the jaw in.

[05:57]

I think that that's to make a scar. Can you say that a little bit louder? Sometimes when people die, their jaw just opens so tight. Could you hear that? Yeah. The other thing that we did, for example, with Jerry, we stuffed cotton balls. What? We stuffed cotton balls in the ragdoll. So now we're going to wash and... Prince? Prince? Do you have any suggestions about the eyelids and... So washing, we need to Actually, we're going to wash, so we need to take the rocks off to be washed.

[07:17]

So this we're going to put back on. And we're going to take this right off. This is why he needs to be certified as dead. Pull this body over and roll us in the cloth up. Just like that. Just wait. No. Yeah. I don't know.

[08:55]

And you might ask, you might specify who to wash you, you know, what gender or whatever, if you have any concerns like that. Or hand or ask your friends what they want. Just so everybody's comfortable, right? That they're, yeah, it's okay. I asked her, she said, it's fine for you to do it. Okay, so now we've taken off pretty much all your clothes, and we could have covered her too with a sheet. Wash. Tilt, like this. And wash. Wash and dry it. And then, as Grace said, you might want to put something on more than just underpants, possibly.

[10:44]

Either something that goes into the body or something like a diaper that has more. Absorbency. Absorbent power than just regular underpants. Okay? So now let's just... We've done that. So the next thing we're going to put on, we're going to put on... Let's just say the person... Maybe they actually want to wear robes. So then we put on underpants, and we put on... And then we put on... kimono and we put on obi which means you have to tilt back and forth and bring it around okay if they want it otherwise you can if the person doesn't want robes they can wear something simple that's fun this for a priest or someone that's who'd said you know i'd like to have my head shaved or we or would you do that for a priest shave the head as part of the washing

[11:50]

yes as part of the washing for a priest you would shave the head for a lay person do whatever what kind of shaving they would usually do or um whatever kind of shaving uh they said they were is that correct of course because you don't shave people don't have a beard right however later in the ceremony there will be head shaving for which I'll tell you about. Normally it's part of the ceremony, but that's not yet. This is just the bathing and cleaning, which involves, in many people's cases, it would involve shaving. Just tidying up. It's not a ritual. Tidying up shaving. And then, one other thing is that when you put the socks on, reverse the feet. Some socks don't make any difference, but if you would wear a Japanese footwear, they're different.

[13:02]

The right and the left are different. And because they have sometimes toe fits, you reverse. And also, if it's into robes, you reverse the robes. Why is that? If he's wearing Asian, Japanese, Asian robes, we reverse the way we fold them. So now we have the person dressed and put the rocks back on. This is an important, intimate moment, which we can do if we have the body.

[14:14]

And at this point, immediately do the next ceremony. See how people feel. Maybe. Leave it like this for a little while. It's possible. This is pretty intense. It may not be ready for the next ceremony. Is this done in silence? Is there chanting in the background? No silence during this? It would be perfectly fine at this time. And not music in this tradition? It's not listed in the manuals. It doesn't say to have music in there. I want music. Charlie was just fine. He might even say what music he wants going on.

[15:17]

While he's being... He might have a whole music program. So now the person is in this position. The next phase is going to be, when you're ready, the next phase is going to be lifting and putting them in the coffin. So that's the next ceremony. And they could be put in the coffin and stay in the same room. So being put in the coffin is the next ceremony, and then after they're in the coffin, they can stay in the same room. Now we can move the coffin to another location. And I was thinking, would this be the time where perhaps you would move the hands, let's say, into Shashu? Yes, thank you. And the feet? Because I noticed with Daigang that you actually moved across the feet.

[16:19]

And to put the hands... Or, if that doesn't work, do the shashu. It might be easier. And again, if it's a roxen person, then you usually have a roxen opening. If it's a priest, we have the shashu opening. on top of the case so please would have full location like person have this okay and we all said from this is it right over left or left over right left over right If a person has two raka suits, say a lay person, and if they only had one raka suit, is it up to them if they are going to be cremated, whether they, or is there in tradition?

[17:34]

If you only had one raka suit, and you did not want to be cremated, I could accept that. You say, I want to give my Roxy to my son or something. I only have one. And I don't want it to be burned. I don't want it to be burned. I think you can say that. That's fine. If you don't say it, or you could say the other. I want to be donated in my Roxy. I'm saying, yes. If you're going to cremate me with a rock suit, and if you're going to bury me, cremate me with an okay suit, and bury me the same, in order to specify. I also want to have a set of clothes already for people to use for this purpose. You could also do that. Say, this is the outfit that I want to wear. Either my robes or this suit or this is what I want to wear.

[18:43]

And have it wrapped up and labeled so people can just get it. Would that traditionally be white? White, for lay people, is traditional. Again, white is traditional, but other colors are accepted. And for priests? Priests would usually have, in my case, I would have a gray. And now I've specified what, so I wear underwear, and then I have underwear that is underpants and a jibon, which is a collared, white garment, and the kimono over that. And I would have that set, which one I'd set.

[19:45]

It's like, this is the one to use. So you can specify. It's good to do so before. Just nice, perfect for you. Otherwise, they can bring in lots of noise. If you're asking about how you want it to be done, do you ask for what you have served your life as, or do you ask for your inspiration? You can't follow and ask a question. My question is, the way you'd like to be married, would you ask exactly the way you have lived your life, served your life as, or would you ask for what you were married to? For your aspirations. I think you can do either way or both.

[20:52]

Given the well-being of my wife, I have this aspiration. And this is what I want to do. Is there a tradition of laying robes, if you like, there, and do you give them to... You could donate them to the temple, or you could donate them to a particular firm. So in my case, I will have many roles, and they will go to successors. And if the successors don't use them all, they would go to the general sum. I just happened to be wearing a roxor made with Suzuki Roshi's kawamas.

[22:02]

So he had a kawama, a priest's robe with big sleeves on, made of his material, and one of his students made roxors out of it. So it's nice to wear your teacher's roxor. Rev, getting an okay son would seem to me totally difficult. It would be quite difficult, but by turning about and going like this and like that, you can do it. It's also okay to have a son told. Especially if the person was not, you know, their fluids were not yet contained. So then you might start by just having it on top. And then maybe later you might wrap it all the way around. So that would be about the condition of Some people also might have wounds or something.

[23:08]

I don't know. So in that case, we maybe put the OK cell top. Short breaks. We now have a break before the next ceremony. OK? Please have a break. which could be walking meditation on the deck. Exactly. Thank you for asking me. As human beings, we need to have drinks. Right. Is the next ceremony going to be inside or out here? Is the next ceremony going to be inside or out here? Well, the next thing I'm going to do is put the body into the coffin. We don't have a coffin. So, um, could this be a liquid parade right here?

[24:09]

She took a mic. She's over there. Two people could do it. Would it work to have the poison on me? How's that? I think I'd like to do it like this. There were enough fathers. I think so. How about if you just lift the person up? Maybe someone light and small. How about if you just lift the person up? Next ceremony is moving a person into the coffin. Why don't you just take the sheet and move the person onto the ground.

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