So people are smiling, which is nice to see. But I feel I must say that... What was the word? In pain, probably, over... the war in Iraq and the war in Lebanon and Israel. And the whole situation around power in this world, struggle for power, of fuel often and the struggle over it but also the effects of using it.

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And the thought to arise in the mind or the concern to arise in the mind, you know, what can I do? How can I contribute to and greed and disrespect and lack of appreciation among beings, etc. And I don't identify with this kind of language, but the word powerless comes to mind. It seems like the mind wants to measure whether one is making any significant positive contribution to the situation.

[02:18]

The mind imagines a positive contribution and imagines measuring it and he wants to make a big positive contribution to a world where there's so many people right now who are suffering so intensely. And then various people, various beings have ideas or understandings of what would be helpful. I don't know about measuring what contribution our actions make.

[03:38]

I don't know about measuring it, but when the thought arises, what can I do? I think that what I try to remember is not so much what can I do, but what am I doing? So this war in Iraq, although I really did oppose the whole thing still, that doesn't mean I wasn't part of it happening. what I was doing before and have been doing since still is contributing to the world in which this war exists. I feel responsible for it. And that's the way I I think that the way I think moment by moment and the way I have thought moment by moment

[04:51]

has contributed and is contributing to the current situation and the future situation. I think my thinking is responsible for this world. And I think that your thinking is responsible for this world. To sort of go on in this world of suffering is supported by meditating on the proposal that my thinking and your thinking, which is the same as my intention and your intention, which is basically the same as my vow and your vow, which is the same as saying my request and my wish and your request and your wish, moment by moment.

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The proposal is that these, all these wishes, requests, intentions, that they make the world. They have made this world of misery, And it is through these same types called intention, called vow, called aspiration, basically synonyms for me. It is through them that the world is and will be transformed. The world will be transformed and is being transformed. In a way it seems like the world has recently been transformed in a negative way. Recently I mean like in the last six years. It seems I can't measure, really.

[07:02]

I mean I can measure, but I'm not saying my measurement is correct. But anyways, lots of negative transformations I feel have occurred. Whether the overall picture is a negative transformation, I can't say. And what I'm saying to you is a way of thinking and it's a vision about thinking. So I'm suggesting that a transformation of vision of the world is the basis for the transformation of the world. And the vision of the world is the basis of the intentions or thinking about the world. And the thinking about the world and the intention about the world forms the world and transforms the world.

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So this is a proposal I didn't, as far as I know, it's been thought of and imagined for a couple of thousand years at least in the tradition of the Buddhadharma. This is an old story how the story we have of the world contributes to the world. And Yeah, that's the story. The story is the story we have about the world. And many people, as far as I can tell, do not have the story that their story of the world forms the world. Many people do not think that. They still have a story which is contributing to the world.

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So again another proposal is that not only does everybody's story contribute to the formation of the world, but that if you're not aware of your story and you're not aware of how your story forms the world, that your contribution is harmful, relatively harmful. Whereas if you're aware of your story, if you're aware of your intention, and you're aware that your intention contributes to the formation of the world, your contribution is relatively positive. And the more that we are aware of our intention, of our aspiration, and how it transforms the world, is the contribution. And the less we are aware of our intentions and their transformative and formative power, the more harmful, generally speaking, our contribution.

[10:36]

But in either case, living beings are constantly influencing the formation of the world and the transformation of the world. This is a proposal from my understanding of this tradition and the teachings of Shakyamuni and all the other Buddhas that he is related to. That's my understanding of his teaching, partly. So in a sense, you could say it's a faith for some people and maybe somewhat a faith for me. But for me also, it is experimenting with and receiving some experimental data on. However, as you may know in science, when you have a theory and you do an experiment and the results of the experiment uphold the theory that does not prove the theory is correct.

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You can't really prove a theory is correct because the next moment the theory could be disproved. You can disprove a theory but you can't really prove it. This is a theory which I'm enjoying testing. And the testing of it, to me, really appropriate to the world today. And always. Again, the teaching is that the world's, the world or worlds, because we get new worlds every moment, worlds represent the consequences, worlds are consequences of aspirations and actions, and actions are living beings of all of us.

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All of us are contributing And then also another aspect of the teaching is that not only does every intention that arises contribute to the formation of the world, not only does every aspiration that arises in our consciousness contribute to the world, but it contributes also to a path of aspiration. When an aspiration arises, one of its consequences is the formation of a world, but another consequence is it tends to influence further intentions. Stories tend to reproduce themselves. intentions, karmic paths are formed.

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So not only do they form the world, but they also form paths of bondage within the world where people are stuck in a rut about how they're contributing to the world. But again, the alteration of the path of our contribution comes through intention. So intention or aspiration is what alters the paths of intention or aspiration. So if you have certain karmic paths, they are determined by karmic actions of body, spirit, or anyway, they're influenced by momentary intentions of body, speech and mind, and the paths are altered through body, speech and mind.

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they are altered by body, speech, and mind actions, by intentional body, speech, and mind. They are altered all the time. Your own personal paths and the world which has created your own personal path, those are transformed by further body, speech, and mind intentional activity. And once again, the transformation is negative your own personal path becomes negative to not noticing the intention and not noticing how it's evolving. And it evolves positively. Your own path evolves positively and your contribution becomes more positive notice the path and how your current intention works with that.

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And there's some, you know, there's some appearance in the history of Zen that some Zen teachers seem to not be concerned with attention. How's your kids? Bigger every day. Bigger every day? They're not losing weight? Good. Thanks for coming. Drive carefully, please. So there's some, some people feel that the Zen school sometimes de-emphasizes paying attention, paying attention to intention. And it may not be the case. Some people, some Zen practitioners may be doing that.

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I myself don't see that. But what I would see is that there's a middle way between rejecting of intention or attention to karma, completely rejecting it on one side, and on the other side being so concerned with it, substantiating the process. substantiating the intention or the aspiration. Because although the aspiration, whatever aspiration you have right now, whatever intention you have right now, although the teaching is that it has consequence, what that intention is, is not said to be a substantial thing.

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As a matter of fact, there's not even much emphasis on what the intention is, because emphasizing what your intention is is already saying or talking as though it were somewhat substantial. So we have to be careful if we hear that noticing our intention tends to have a positive evolutionary influence. that we would then think that the intention we're noticing is substantial. And I think that when some teachers are rejecting attention to intention or attention to karma and the teachings of karma, they're doing that because students have thought too much in terms of what intention is and what the teachings of karma are, rather than noticing how intention comes to be, how karma comes to be, how the teachings come to be.

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So because of people substantiating and reifying the teachings, they have rejected them. But hopefully just, I would say, just enough so that not to actually have people not pay attention to their intention. And I think Zen teachers sometimes talk this way of rejecting it to protect people from substantiating, having a substantialistic they're up to at the moment. But they live in a monastery where people are getting feedback all the time on their intention. but they don't mention the monastery because they're in it. And they're giving feedback to the people that they're telling to their intention. And then when they don't, they get feedback. And actually, part of what

[20:58]

part of the way of working with this attention or mindfulness and contemplation of intention part of what's involved here is actually to work together with someone else attending the intention. So you can work with it inwardly and that has a... looking at it inwardly has a long-term positive influence, but also it's good to work with it interpersonally so that other people could check to see whether you are being too substantialistic about your intentions. And so that you together with others can express your intentions to each other in such a way as to alter the trajectory, mutually alter each other's trajectories, paths of karma.

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Which is another way to say, express your stories to each other. Stories can modify each other's stories. And to watch this consciously as an interpersonal transformation of the vision of the world. And that this vision of the world of putting our stories out and inviting others to put theirs out and watching how they affect each other This process is a process which reflects the story of how the world is formed. And in that way, perhaps maybe more in accord with reality and bring peace and harmony. So this is a story about peace and harmony.

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which would include me letting my story, which I just told about peace and harmony, be altered and influenced by yours, and particularly your story, about how that was a substantialistic story. Or it could just be how it's stupid, or religious, or naive, or lots of things you could say. You could have lots of stories about my story, And that I told is a story which would welcome that feedback and welcome disagreement. And my story also, or the story I told anyway, which is not really my story, but my understanding of the Buddha's story, this story arises not from the interaction of this body, with the world in which the Buddha's teachings exist and also in a world in which you all exist.

[24:32]

And my intentions and my aspirations arise as this body interacts with all the teachings and all the suffering. That gives rise to my cognitions which come with intention. if my body was not bouncing off and being bounced off of in relationship to the teachings, my intentions would be different. Maybe even better, but they'd be different. In a way, this is how I keep my buoyant as I meditate on the horrific transformations of the world which I see.

[25:36]

To keep myself appearing again and again willing to live in this world and try to make better and better contributions and try to see and help other people make better and better contributions to forming this world. Any feedback from me? Yes? You have a question? Yes? That's feedback. You said you invite us to change your story or offer changes to your story. Yeah, and I also said my story invites you to change my story. Some people's story do not invite you to change their story.

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But my story invites you to change my story. Well, I've come across a few situations recently where I'm someone who also invites people to change my story, and my story invites people to change it. But what does a story... When can a story not change? Never. A story can never not change. There's a fleeting moment sort of somewhere near towards the period at the end of the story. It doesn't change. But then it changes. Example of a story that doesn't change? Okay. Yeah, okay. Let's have an example. Yes. Yeah. Would Noah's story change to accommodate?

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Definitely. I mean, even if you never got to Noah's boat, Noah's boat's story would change to accommodate. As you're approaching Noah's boat through Tam Valley, and get arrested, and tell them that you're heading to no abode. You're already transforming no abode. You transform no abode when you want to go to no abode with a gun. You immediately transform no abode. Think of no abode. Think of coming with a gun so you'll feel safe. You have just transformed no abode. And if you transform no abode, no abode just accommodated to you. Before you arrive, you change no abode. Now, if you want to get more specific and say, if you actually got here and walked in the door and I saw the gun, would I accommodate? And I would accommodate. I might go, wow, what kind of gun is that? That's an accommodation. I will respond to you. If I get scared and I tense up, I'm accommodating to you.

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What do you think about the outside world and how some people don't want change? Outside world? Yes. Yeah, you're excused. You mean like the neighbors? I've been thinking about the inside world, which includes Israel and Iraq. You want to talk about the neighbors of Nobode? Yes. Okay, which neighbors do you want to talk about? The neighbors of Nobode, like Iraq and Israel, and how some of them don't want to change their... I don't want to accommodate... Their story is, I don't want... Like I heard somebody say, I like George Bush because he's consistent. What he thinks on Monday is the same as what he thinks on Wednesday, regardless of what happens on Tuesday. I like that, consistency. Some people have that story that... Some other person, the person who said that had the story, he thought that was a joke.

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He didn't like that. He thought, actually, he has a story. It would be good if what he thought changed according to circumstances. That's his story. But his story might also be that he would be willing to change his story, perhaps. When people do have the story, I can't change my story. It's the truth. I'm sorry. How can I change it? My story is the truth, so it can't change. And that story, I think, my story is I want to find a way to interact with that story. So the person who tells that story can wake up from the dream that they have a story which can't change. Because I think, my story is, that people who think they have a story which is true and it can't change, therefore conversing with people is fine, but the story is not going to change. have a story that I want to have conversations with them so that their story could change.

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But I do think that some people, they just don't see a possibility of their story changing. But I think the fact that they're willing to talk about it, like I heard about this faith and reason series on TV. I heard that some scientists were being interviewed, but there were scientists which have faith and they're willing to converse about it, but they seem that their faith was rock-like and unchangeable. But still, if they're willing to converse, I think they're entering into the process where their view will not be so harmful if they're willing to converse about it. So even the people who are not changing their view in their own mind, they think they have the same view. Even though you can watch it changing, they don't see it. You can see that they had different view today as yesterday, but they think, no, no, it's the same view. That's their view.

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If they will converse with you, I think that it's okay that... It's not okay, but it's not so harmful that they think that it hasn't been changing. In other words, we can find... with those who do not agree with us, if we can converse. That's my story. That's a story. Do I mind if you continue? I don't. Does anybody else mind if she continues? Looks like nobody minds, at least inside. What? You have a question, what? What? Okay. Joan? Not necessarily. You can set boundaries without holding on to your story. Some of the best are people who don't hold on to their stories.

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Well, this is what I'm trying to understand. Yeah. Maybe you can explain that to me. Well, for example, with a child that you love, it's possible to have some idea that something's dangerous for them so that they don't get hurt. Okay? But still, be open to the fact that you might be wrong. and set the boundary with that understanding. And actually then also setting a boundary, but somehow, although you're not unclear about the boundary, you're also relaxed with doing it. So they feel somewhat relaxed with a very definite boundary. And you feel relaxed too because although it's definite, you're not attached to it. it's possible to learn that.

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And just for the moment, too. Like I often use this example of, you know, I went to Esalen Institute in 1980 with my three-and-a-half-year-old daughter. She was going to go to France while we were at Esalen. And her mother suggested that while we were at Esalen, I help her get off her pacifier. which she used mostly to go to sleep at night. And so, I think one of the first, one of the first nights there, I told, I said to her, you know, your mom, evil mother, wants you to get off the, I didn't say evil mother to her, but I'm saying to you, evil mother, wants you to get off the pacifier. And my daughter said, well, I like to use it to go to sleep. And I thought, that's reasonable. You know, thinking about what other people do to go to sleep, it seemed pretty good.

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Did you want to jump in here in the middle of the story? Okay. Let's see what happens. There's a way we can what? Yes. I feel like the story is very familiar and that I might have even written it. And that my children have interacted with goodness and Buddha and to help you save lives and so I can interact and grow and I don't need official service. I don't need someone to bounce that wisdom body or whatever it is with.

[36:34]

I thought it was you quite some times. I've also had personal difficulties. I'm not to expect, but I'm okay with those. I love you as a person. I wish you well. And I wish myself well. I wish us all well. And I feel that we can work together. And I think we've used it. I agree with it wholeheartedly. And it calls apart... upon our creativity to work with each other in a way that puts out our best interests. But we need and must create containers and places and situations and houses and clothes and things. Luncheons. Luncheons. Yeah, luncheons. Daycare areas. Sandboxes. Yeah, amen.

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Amen. And I pray that it can grow among whoever wants it. If they don't, that we can still count, love them enough, or provide enough for them that the resources come. That we can each give our resources in a way that would help each other out so much. I love when you talk about this. I think it brings up You enjoyed expressing yourself just now? Yeah, and talking to you, and any feedback, you know. Feedback? Yeah, well, feedback is amen.

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Amen, sister. Thank you very much. I'm glad you enjoyed expressing yourself. You're welcome. Thank you. So anyway, she says, you know, I want to use it to go to sleep, so I say, Okay, you can use it. So she uses it to go to sleep. But then one night, I came home from giving a class. I was teaching there at Esalen. I came home and she was very upset because she had bitten through her pacifier. It was no longer functioned as a pacifier. And so she said, Esalen is way down by Big Sur, past Big Sur. She wanted me to go and buy her a new pacifier, and it was like 10 at night. And I said, it's too late now. It's the nearest store 50 miles away. Or at least the nearest store where you can buy pacifiers. You have to go all the way back to Monterey or something.

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I said, I'm not going to go in the middle of the night, but if you remind me tomorrow, I'll get it. And she... forgot to tell me, so I didn't get it. But anyway, I had the story. She had the story of continuing, and I gave up my story, and I went sort of with her story of using it. But then she bit through it, and it turns out that she did stop using the pacifier, but not because anybody's story was I had this story about, okay, I'm not going to drive in the middle of the night. But she didn't try to talk me out of it. She went along with it. And she fell asleep while we were discussing how difficult it would be for me to drive up the road. I said, we have to turn right, and then we have to turn left, and then we have to turn right, and she was asleep. It was a pacifying story.

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And we're still trying to pacify her. Yes? I have a question. It's good when she's pacified. Yes? My intention comes along. My attention is probably bound to what I know, like to the range of practice I'm having. Your intention is bound to what you know. Right. Yeah. With every moment of knowing, every moment of cognition, an intention comes. So you could say the intention is bound to what you know or to your knowing, but also your knowing is bound to your intention. They're connected. Knowing and intention, knowing and aspiration are partners. How do we evolve? As your intention evolves positively, your cognition evolves positively.

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As your cognition evolves positively, your intention evolves positively. I bounce back and forth with other people's knowing, and so my knowing evolves. How does it exactly happen that one extends to a range of knowing that one doesn't know? Okay, so you said your knowing is bouncing off other people's knowing, and also your intention is bouncing off other people's intention. Like Laura is saying, you know, our knowing is bouncing off supreme cognitions of Buddhas, we're actually bouncing with them right now. And our intentions are bouncing with their intentions right now. And then the next part of your question or statement? Yes, to have one's intention grow into an area where I actually don't. Where you don't know? It doesn't grow into an area where you don't know. Right. But there is so much that we don't know.

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It doesn't grow into an area you don't know, but areas where you have not yet known co-arise with the evolution of your intention. If your intention gets transformed, at the same time the intention gets transformed, a new cognition arises with it, a cognition you never had before. So working on your intention will put you into worlds but especially will put you into ways of knowing that you've never had before. By going to school, for example, lessons can put you into states of cognition which you've never had before. And particularly having more positive and skillful intentions puts you into states of knowing that with you that you've never known before. And also putting your intention or your story out with other intentions where you're actually aware, like I'm putting my intention out and you're putting your intention out or I'm putting my story out, your story out.

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where you're dramatizing what's going on all the time. Actually, all the time, the people who are thinking of coming to Noah's Abode with weapons, you know, they're transforming Noah's Abode already. But we don't know about it because we don't see them. But if they would actually come here and dramatically present themselves with their... and we interacted with them, then we would actually be able to see their story interacting with our story. And then we would be able to actually form a new story perhaps with them. And this new story or this new intention would give rise to a state of awareness which we never had before. Like these people came to know and we actually interacted with them and worked out really well. And I experienced a state I've never experienced before with armed meditators, you know. It's a whole new thing. At Tassajara in 1970, early in the morning, I went to hit the wooden plaque up there for meditation.

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And there were lots of motorcycles. Actually, the motorcycles weren't right there. There were lots of Hell's Angels wearing weapons around the area of the Zendo, like at 5 o'clock in the morning at Tassajara Zen Mountain Center. armed Hell's Angels people. They just happened to drive down in the middle of the night, and there they were. And I was very surprised how well it worked out. They just came down, you know, to have a bath. They weren't going to shoot us or anything, but they just happened to... And I just kept hitting the Han, and somebody else, the guest person took care of them, and it was like... It was like a new state of consciousness for me, and probably for them too, to see this young bald guy hitting this plaque in the middle of the night. So the interaction part is really important, that you get your story out there again and again, and learn how to stand the fact that other people are receiving it in all these different ways according to their stories, and you just keep interacting and interacting.

[46:17]

and your story will change. Your story will change but you get to notice a change and as you notice a change, noticing your story change will evolve positively. There may be occasional dips, like you may notice that you have a story and somebody else disagrees with you and then your story that they are rats they're terrible people because you know they don't agree with my story so my story was the same as it was before but now I hate them too but if you notice that your story changes you'll come out of that you'll come out of that by that awareness your awareness will lift you out of the dipping of the degradation of your story greed hate and delusion cannot hinder the alteration greed hate and delusion cannot hinder? Because it sounds like you're so positive about it, it will alter, but pithen and illusion can also bring it. Illusion are part of karmic hindrance, but karmic hindrance doesn't really hinder.

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What is it that you're talking about being hindering? Intention. No, you didn't say intention. It's the alteration. What? It's the alteration. Yeah. The obstruction doesn't, what is altered doesn't... the alteration. It is the object of the alteration. So greed, hate, and delusion, which are part of the pattern, a karmic pattern, an intentional pattern, they don't obstruct the alteration of themselves. They are what gets altered by awareness. By awareness of obstruction is altered. But it's not that there's no obstruction. The obstruction is what we're altering. The obstruction is what we're learning to leap beyond and turn. So obstruction really isn't obstruction. Obstruction is basically the opportunity, huh? It's material. It's the opportunity. Practice operates on obstruction. That's what it works with. So you can say it's obstruction. You can say, yeah, but it's the practice. Our problems and obstructions are the practice, basically.

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I mean, they're the practice of opportunity. And a practice is to meet that with awareness of your intention in regard to obstruction, which, of course, we see plenty of karmic obstruction. I see Laura has her hand up, but I see Stephen and Charlene. Yes? Can you wait, Laura? Barely? Yeah, that's cool. Though you and your story invite feedback, I tend to experience your story as being so much more powerful and articulate and clear and well-realized than my true story. I feel reluctant sometimes to expose my real story to your big story. Yeah. Well, thanks for telling that story. And then I can now say to you that

[49:33]

Part of me would like to tell my story in a kind of soggy, wimpy, you know, so that you wouldn't feel that way. But I've tried that in the past, and what I find out is that people think, well, when's he going to actually say what he means? He's just like, he's waiting back there. When's he going to come out, you know? And I think actually one of Catherine's... Former in-law or something like that? Your in-law? Former sister-in-law said that her father, who was a minister, I don't know if he said this or she felt this about him, but she said he pushed the clarity of the articulation of his belief right up to the point. where it's really endangered to be self-righteous. He's so certain that nobody would dare to question this. But it's not that we want to realize that position, but we push ourselves into the place where there's that danger.

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To back away from the place where there's danger that someone would be afraid to say anything to you because of the strength of your position, to back away from that danger, I think, is back away from the place where you really meet that person. So for me to put it out very strongly and you to connect with it, that's where we're really going to meet. If I back away, you still won't necessarily dare because you know that actually I'm just backing away, you know, and it's really lurking in the background. It's a really strong position. You know, everybody has that, actually. I say, let's get it out in the open where it really... but shows... where there's a danger that it will, and sometimes it does. But you keep inviting me to say, could he possibly be actually inviting me to disagree with him? I mean, I don't believe it. Maybe I'll try. You know, and you try. So that is a problem. Thank you.

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Yes? I was going to ask how Zen masters and Zen students, even those who are willing to have their stories altered, recognize their shadow, I stepped on my raspberry. Pardon? I stepped on my raspberry. You stepped on it? I think so. And I've got a big mess here. Do you want to eat it? No. I kind of asked you if you'd eat it. You just kind of did. I think that there's some aggression, I think, like in this question, like kind of, you know, so, like I'm asking how this, you know... Interesting combination of some aggression and red all over your hands. Lady Macbeth. What's the question again? I wanted to recognize shadow. Oh, shadow.

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Yeah, and there's some aggression in the question about shadow. So when you tell us that there's the aggression, then did the shadow get brought out a little bit? I thought so, as I was thinking about it. Yeah, it sounds pretty good. And also, when you put your story out there, another way the shadow gets brought out is somebody can say something about what you said that's really stupid, and then you can tell them how stupid it is, and then you've probably found something about the shadow there, too. because you didn't think the person was stupid when you first started. But now, by what they said in response to your story, you think they're really stupid. And so something that you didn't see was involved there, which when you first spoke, you thought, well, I'm just expressing my opinion. But I didn't notice that anybody who disagrees with me in certain ways would be stupid. But now I see that I don't just have opinions. I have a view that anybody who doesn't agree with me should be eliminated. or anyway, yeah, basically eliminated and made into a pod person, you know, or somebody that is reasonable and agrees with me.

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So the interaction between the two, including the shadow, students should try to bring out the teacher's shadow. Not try to, but expressing yourself strongly will hopefully bring out the teacher's shadow, which you do not want to see. Right? Because teachers are supposed to be good, right? You don't want to see the bad teacher. You do. Okay. Well. You want to too? Of course. Okay. One, two, three. Let's see the bad teacher. Aren't I bad enough? Aren't I bad enough? I've seen a bad you. You don't know yet? Okay. I've seen a bad you. You've seen a bad what? You. Bad you, but is that a bad teacher? Thank you. Oh. Oh.

[54:57]

Yes. Bad teacher, but bad teacher. Yikes. Then bad Buddha. There is no bad teacher. Yeah, but it's easy to say it. Before you see the bad teacher, when you see the bad teacher, can you say that? And not like he's not there, but really that this bad teacher comes to be, that you can't get the bad teacher. So is George Bush a bad teacher? Is he a bad teacher? I don't... He seems like a good teacher to me. Good teacher... What about the teacher who told him to kill a Gullimala? What? Huh? The teacher who told him to kill a Gullimala? Is that a bad teacher? Well, you know, we say the thousand deaths that it took to make a Gullimala who he became

[55:58]

It's hard for me to say. It's hard for me to say. But the teacher was part of Abu Ghulimala's path where he finally came to be basically a highly evolved spiritual being by going through this horrible contortion as a murderer on the way. And the teacher was part of the causes and conditions, but not just the teacher. The Buddha was there through the whole thing. So the Buddha was there allowing this world to be a place where a person with good background can be twisted. His karmic pattern can be flipped in such a way that he can hook onto it to turn it into a really bad way. But then it comes around and he met Buddha. And somehow the whole thing got I can't say that it was good that the teacher said something so he caused all those murders. I don't have any idea that that was good at all. But his teacher was part of the causal pattern that led this guy to meet the Buddha.

[57:05]

To meet the Buddha. Would he have met the Buddha? Would the Buddha have made this effort for him if he wasn't a murderer? We don't know, but maybe not. The Buddha really needed to meet him. he was in such bad shape, plus had the potential to be helped. If he didn't have the potential to be helped, the Buddha Maya just stayed away from him and protected people in another way. Yes? It seems almost like advocating that no matter what happens, it's a good outcome. No, no, it's not. It's saying that What is skillful is what has good outcomes. That's what we mean by skillful. And what is unskillful has bad outcomes. Or, you know, harm. That's the basic thing. And the way you watch your intention is in terms of its consequences.

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Not, you know, like if I want to help you, if I have this feeling like I want to help you, I do notice that I do want to help you. But it isn't that because I want to help you that that in and of itself is good. If I want to do something good in relationship to you and the world, that doesn't mean that that is in and of itself good. It also counts, more important than how it sounds literally, what really counts. However, its consequence is complex. There's a short-term consequence and a long-term consequence. But watching how, looking at my intentions, seeing how I think they are, the quality of them, and then watching their consequences, this attention is going to be the intention which will alter negative and harmful patterns of intention and cause and effect. Is there a universal tendency toward good outcomes?

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Jerry asked a similar question the other night. He said, can you just have faith in our nature or something? Something like that. If you're aware of your intention... very fact that you're aware of your intention enough for it to be transforming and good. Well, that's what I would say, that your awareness of your intention doesn't necessarily mean that that intention will have positive consequences, but your intention will lead your attention to your intention. Your awareness of your intention, I would say, awareness of intention will in the long run continue to pressure you and the world towards realization of peace and harmony. Because as you look at intention more and more you will see intention co-evolves with other intentions. As you see this more and more you see peace and harmony more and more.

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if you look at your intention, you do not see peace and harmony. You suffer. If you do not look at your intention and also do not see peace and harmony, you suffer. So looking at your intention or not, either way, if you do not see, of course if you do not see, you will not see. If you do look and you don't see, In both cases, you're uncomfortable. Until we see how things are related, actually, I say we suffer. And the pressure on us is to realize our interdependence. And until we do, there's just a consistent, stable, but varying pressure of the universe with which we arise is pressuring us to realize, to understand our relationship with the world. we are born, we exist out of a relationship with the world, we are born out of our relationship with the world.

[61:42]

That's how we're born, and our intention is born with that. And if we don't understand that relationship, then we are in pain. And our actions, our intentions arise from this painful situation, contribute to further they, together with the world, contribute to further births with further suffering. And so the pressure on us is that we won't be comfortable until we understand this process. And that understanding the process, one of the key ingredients is watch how Awareness arises and watch how intention arises with it and study the intention and then watch the consequences of the intention. See if they're beneficial. See if they're advantageous to further meditation or see if they tend to distract you from meditation. And over time, if you pay attention, you will see that those who distract you from meditation also make you uncomfortable.

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And those who promote meditation promote education. And that you feel good when you start. Learning is fun. Learning buoys you up. Even in this messy situation, you're still prior to seeing how everything is in peace and harmony. Once we see that, then we're ready to really go to work. and do the most joyful thing, which is to teach others to enter this Buddha way. Until then, we will not be at ease until we realize this. However, once you start studying, I think there's some, not exactly relief, but you could say it's relief, but I think it's more like encouragement. You feel encouraged even though you still feel in pain. So now most of us feel more in pain than we did six years ago. I think, in a way.

[63:50]

But we still might feel more encouraged. Like, yeah, and the reason we're suffering is because people are not awake. People are selfish and feeling not in connection with each other. So we feel maybe even more confidence that the problem in the world is a lack of understanding. We have... You know, we have all these resources, and we're basically fighting each other over what we already have. We're fighting people over abundance and wealth. The problem seems to be lack of understanding, as it has been, as it has seemed to be the problem for quite a long time. In Buddha's time, the problem was not poverty so much. lack of understanding and hatred among beings. That was the problem and it still is. But consequence is very much part of how we learn about intention.

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So it's not that it doesn't matter what the intention is, it's more like what matters what the intention is, but what really matters is that you notice it. What your intention is right now is more important than what you're doing. I mean, it's the same as what you're doing, but more important than whether you're rich or poor is what do you intend now. That's the cutting edge of spiritual and harmonious evolution. Yes? Are you chewing gum? It's okay. What sticks to you? Did you say when things are revealed is when I'm helping people? Yeah. Yeah. I think what the problem is, is in spiritual circles, it is the wanting to understand.

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Said yes is very important, I feel, for sure. We have to understand your proof, which you can never really prove, because life itself is going to go on. And I think it's what you're sort of speaking to when you're saying experiment that's more proven, other than the outcomes of vision statements such that you want to make sure that tangible, physical things help people grow and live productively. And I would like to see more and more resources and help put into that. And with that, I was just telling myself, that's where the creativity and the wisdom and the helpfulness comes from. Right, and that's your story. So that's a nice story. Thanks for telling it. And now, that story needs to interact with people who do not have that story.

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Huh? What? You're welcome. Yeah. So that's your story and you can offer that to the world and it's very important to offer it to people who have different stories so that story you just told can change. In relation, not just change, and of course I said so it can change, but I'd rather say so that you and others can realize that it's changing. Because it will change. And it has, right. Right. I have a story. Want to hear my, what? You don't want to hear my story? But later? How much later do you want to hear my story? 30 seconds? Okay, 30 seconds. Go. There's something very important about being healthy and coming up against the wall. There's some boundaries. Boundaries are important. Boundaries are important.

[68:23]

Like teeth. Yeah, it's really to buy in and speak your truth in a way that isn't hard on other people. Respect each other's toes. Yeah. Yeah. And to curl in a way that's helpful and good friends. Sounds good. And hopefully you'll meet somebody who doesn't think so. No. Yes. Yes. For me the truth is like they're in a different place and I'm here and they're there and they're going to have a Bible and they're going to go out to do ice news and get the AIDS and I'm going to go out to do Walmart get the Are you going to go to Walmart? Great. Have you ever been to Walmart? Have you been there, though? I've never been to Walmart. It's fine? It's fun, okay.

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I think, I'm not sure, but one more question is being, a hand is being, two more hands are being raised. Three more hands are being raised. Let's have some more hands. Four more hands are being raised. A head is shaking. Blood sugar is dropping. Right? We could pass the fruit around. Do you want to continue or have lunch? Huh? Really? Okay. As you said about looking at our intention, what is my intention talking to you right now? Yeah, right. And there seem to be a lot of possibilities. Maybe I want attention, maybe I want to express myself, maybe I like talking to you. Maybe I want to develop the ability to be skillful at promoting peace.

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Yeah. Can I point out one intention which people often don't spot as intention? it's what you think you're doing right now is your intention. Like the fact that you think you're talking to me or the fact that I think I'm talking to you, that actually is my intention too. Another definition of, another word for intention, another definition of karma is what is thinking. So what you think you're doing is your intention. A lot of times people are doing something but they don't notice that that is an intention. So when you're talking to somebody you could be Consciously intending to talk to them gently. Or you could be semi-consciously talking to them, but not really... You could be talking to them gently without being aware that you are intending to talk to them gently. But in fact, if you're talking to them gently and you think you're talking to them gently, then in fact you're intending to talk to them gently. And other people might say, well, he said he was intending to talk to me gently, but I didn't feel like he was talking to me gently.

[71:33]

And then you maybe looked at it and said, I intended to talk gently, but I did not talk gently. And so the fact that you actually thought that you were thinking that you were not speaking gently, that is actually your intention, too. So an easy way to find your intention is, what do you think you're doing? Or what do you think your action is? That is your intention and actually it's also your aspiration. Because in fact the way you're thinking makes a world. Aspiration means breathe life into. What you think makes a world. You breathe life into a world by what you think. In this karma. So watching that is the key thing. To watch what the karma is right now, watch what the intention is, watch what the thinking is. All these different worlds to help you spot the extreme complexity of what you're up to versus making you.

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Yes. Oh, right, yes. Yes, so people think of, you know, like these big vows we make, like vowing to save all sentient beings, vowing to attain the Buddha way. At some point in history, we may have thought that, maybe in a very important situation like said to a teacher or said in a ceremony that we have these vows and they have an effect. And one of the effects they had is we remember we made those vows and they were literally vows, but you were also thinking of them at the time. So I make the vow I want to save all sentient beings, but right now I just want to take a bath. That's what I want to do. I'm thinking of taking a bath. That's really where I'm at. But I know I made a vow to save all sentient beings, and there's some dynamism there because there's a story in one of Dogen's fascicles about it, about practicing generosity, and it says, three times to meet visitors.

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It's a story in there, a Chinese story about a you know, a dignified person who came out of the bath, he was taking a bath, he left the bath three times. He wanted to take a bath. That was his intention. But then when people came, because he didn't take a bodhisattva vow, but because of his vow to serve the people, he left the bath three times. But sometimes we're in the bath, and we have made the vow to help people, but we just want to stay in the bath a little longer. We don't want to leave right now. So there you see the current, what you're up to right now, is different. You're a person who has made this vow in the past, and you remember that vow, or you forget it. But you did make the vow to save all sentient beings. You did make the vow to help other beings before yourself. You did make that vow. And you can even remember it, whether you Without anybody reminding you, you remember it.

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At the same time, right now you notice, that's not my intention right now. So my actual intention is that I remember this other intention and feel differently right now. That's actually your karmic formation at that time, is that you serve other people and you notice you don't want to. That's a particular pattern. Or you forgot it, but you don't want to. And sometimes you remember it and you want to. And sometimes you forget it and you want to. All these different patterns, check it out. They're there to be observed and educated with. Not exactly by, but with. Because they're teaching you, but when you look at them, they change. They're teaching you, and when you look at them, you change. You and they change together. This is the evolutionary edge. of a... Should we have lunch now or go on?

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Lunch? Lunch? Okay. Pardon? Whatever. Okay, you have whatever and some other people will have lunch. So let's have lunch. May our intention

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