Entering and Embodying Truth 

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i use this or example i think i told the story last week i think and i
i tell it quite often story about them
a zen monk who is sweeping the ground can i tell them last week
so zen monks sir
who live in monasteries
they often do ah
groundwork they work on the ground of the monastery
taking care of it
no they also work on not on the ground of their mind
there there no mind in their body
to keep things
well cared for
and sometimes when they're taking care of the ground are taking care of their mind they get kind of busy
and excited
as zen monk sometimes are also working in the monastery to take care of the community to and
i try to make the community clean and tidy and
and just try to have a
ha feeling of harmony and done
an equity equity ability and
and fairness among the monks
and the monks have different positions in the monastery
like this
there's a teachers and junior teachers and
ah have senior practitioners and beginning practitioners and people have jobs like director and head of the worker construction had her cat of the gardener has the kitchen
and they have always different positions and they the that do that work with all those positions and name do that
for the purpose of having a peaceful equitable
a happy community
and they work on their own body and mind that way to while they're doing their work and while they're doing there are formal meditation
and why they're doing this kind of work which is for this good purpose you could save for the purpose of having a just society among the monks
they do they want to have social justice or they don't use the word justice and for tradition much i think we can see they want to have social justice
they want the people were in the different positions and have different corporate responsibility on equal responsibility they want them to fulfill their different positions for the welfare of the whole community
tensile has a different authority from the
from the to hear from the abbot of the head teachers
it's possible to fulfill their job and such a way that everyone's benefited
and some monks have simple job like sweeping
but there's a possibility while doing one's job for the welfare of the community to get kind of excited and distracted
distracted from the truth of what you're doing
get distracted from the teaching that the form of your position or the form of your work
which has been done for the welfare of all beings that the form is is ungraspable is empty
and that you're not doing it by yourself and so on and
and when we get excited about our work we sometimes forget the teaching a bot or work
so that in the story when the one monk is sweeping
doing his job for the welfare as a community his brother comes and says you're too busy he accuses him maybe
i'm getting too caught up in his work of social justice of meditative development for the welfare of the whole community
but the one who is accused says you should know there's somebody who's not busy
so i'm basically suggesting that if if will what it whatever we're working on and in particular like the the consideration of
taking care of our life for the second of the ongoing work of social justice
to be participating in the conversation between our broom in the earth in the conversation between our thinking and other people's thinking our views are opinions about justice and other people's opinions of our justice in that conversation
which is for the welfare of and the justice of all
that would be careful because we can get excited and confused in our excitement
in our confusion we can start thinking we're better than the people who disagree with us about what just
have we can think other people are unjust and were just
and we can believe that and get really excited
i'm confused
so that
the story sing one whatever you're doing whatever year devoted to
even though you're working hard remember there's somebody who's not

there's somebody who's not busy as somebody who's not involved in grasping the form
what's going on here
that person in some sense isn't really working for justice
but that person he's alive
and watch justice
that's why as you look inside and see if you can find a place a quiet and stillness that's alive and that wants justice this is like that
this is like that
does the fountain or the source of your aspiration and inspiration to do the hard work of sweeping the ground and conversing with
and thinking about all the different ideas and opinions of what justices
so we had to go back to them that source said that nourishing placed in ourselves on a regular basis
so that the zen lifestyle is too
return to that place on a regular basis and then from that place
but then while working try not to lose contact with that place
while you're formerly doing some work
try not to lose contact with that place and then you can also not lose contact with a teaching
that the form of what you're working on his ungraspable
that's your opinion about what justice is
is not is not profound
it's it's superficial
but you still taking care of it just like the ground in a way superficial
so i think so i i i think that it's really good to keep returning to the place that wants to work for justice and remember that place where you're not doing anything and when nothing can be grasped
and in return to that place and feel that place and and check again with you wanna go back to work
and rest there until you feel rested and an enthusiastic
about going back to work sweeping the ground sweeping the mind tending to your relationship for things working for
working on the issues of justice
and then when you go to work try to remember
that there's somebody who is always with you who's not doing anything
because the somebody who knows there's nothing to be done
nothing can be grasped
and then you can maybe work really hard and not get confused
and not you know not get confused and think that some people are
not as good as you and so on
people are different
the difference
for the welfare of all and if you don't see that than we need a conversation and in the conversation we did not need somebody who think they're better than the one they're conversing with we don't need that i don't think that opinion i have
so i i think that equality is an issue but it's not that it's there's two kinds of equality one kind of equality as the quality that we all have the potential to develop wisdom and compassion we are equal that we all have that
where are equal in we all want that
equal in our in our position in the monastery where not equal in our place in the mandola
but we should all have a chance to take the different positions
richard all the position should be open to all of us
and i think that in again in the
in the buddhist teaching all the different positions are open to all beings
but we take turns
ah and we fulfill these positions
under the criterion of our power work into position is to the welfare of all
but we need to keep going back to this this place
remember that somebody's not busy so we can be open
two looking at how our position is functioning in the whole picture
hi i appreciate you
ah helping with this class it's kind of a ah for me a new area of
conversation in a class setting in a in a teaching and studies that such a situation
i feel like god we've just kind of started to work to work this issue and now the classes coming to an end and i'm wondering how to continued this kind of room
this kind of work
this kind of study
this kind of meditation
and as i said i i think that the
why didn't i think
i saw we just talk you some a little while ago in that i think the boys are the precepts are justice
but to understand how the boys have a precepts are related to the thinking
that people in the west are doing it by justice that requires quite a bit of conversation
so i'm proposing that i'm in i'm i'm asking us to consider a commitment to
to a conversation about justice
and a conversation with justice with people have different opinions about what it is
for the sake of realizing it
and with the understanding that being able to be calm and in touch with the spiritual source
he's a will be opposite our our practice and if we can show that to others he will he will encourage them because a lot of people are really working hard for justice but they don't tap into the
to the resources they have available they don't even know where to look
for some of these resources
so we can help people who are really odd
wholeheartedly working in this way
just before earlier
i was over that coffee shop on a college and ashby and i met
a lawyer who
usually works on disability or rights
and he just he just lost a trial
which is a class action suit on behalf of all the veterans of the
iraq and afghan
wars while the american veterans
and it was a class action suit dumb
related in a for example to the post-traumatic stress that so many of them are experiencing
and that there is a
not just for the veterans from the iraq and afghan
engagements but also we're going way back there's a waiting list for disability assistance of six hundred and fifty thousand person waiting list so they come back from
they come back with post-traumatic stress and there's some of them don't get medical coverage
and some give medical coverage but not psychological ah therapy be covered and odd and also don't get and don't get them financial coverage so a lot of these veterans coming back from afghanistan and on
and iraq are coming back with post-traumatic stress and are unable to get work unable to get support and are becoming homeless
and but he lost a trial
to a judge that was appointed by nixon
but he said it was although the last trial
the judge recognized pretty much the whole case so in his fifty page
i guess brief run with our decision
ah would be like forty seven pages he was recognized in the points made by the disability rights
last action suit
and then the last few pages he'd talked about why he was you know
i'm not going to run
what's the word
hello the allow the claim
it has something to do with what's called
juridical restraint
judicial restraint
in consideration that the veterans administration aside from the military is one of the largest organizations and in the world
and does a lot of good
but i like it it does provide up some really high quality medical assistance to the veterans
but it's not doing an adequate job taking care of these people coming back with post-traumatic stress
and i guess he didn't want to you know to can't rattle this huge organization with this judgment however it's in a good position now to be appealed because his judgment included the recognition of basically all their all their claims have been all their information for this is a person connect
did to us for had met with who's working for justice
and i am
offering my friendship and support to him doing this wonderful work
in this case there's not too much of a conversation because if i don't really differ with him in and on anything in this regard
but i i do you know give him my support him and i and i sympathize with how hard it is and
i pray for his good health
so as a
as a
farewell ah temporary farewell on this topic i just wanted to make a commitment myself to keep
working on this and again i haven't a couple other things that are helpful to me as one is and i'm i'm reading a book by another friend which is called social justice and an unjust world slime really reading that as part of my devotion to this topic
and also i'm going to i i i commit to continue to study these things not to find out what justices but to be where the different positions and see if i can find some way for me to participate in a helpful way around this concept
social justice
and like last week green gulch to in the last sunday we got i talked about this the relationship between our practice a our traditional practice an issue of social justice so i'm gonna try to keep working on this
and i would appreciate you giving me your feedback
i how this is going and tell me your feedback including how your continuing to work on this issue in your practice
and also i as i said on sunday that
if you consider the
when i hear of the concerns of
have a number of organizations a number of groups
and i hear the description of their work in there and there
their goal
like for example in a series on the radio on
this organization is dedicated to a more just verdant and tasteful world
ah this kind of justice is about
faulkner in another got another organization which somebody in this groups at working for called pacha mama ah it's it's to dedicated to a m
spiritual fulfillment
ah ecological sustainability and social justice
and another friend in like in this book is talking about
social justice is the realization
have the
worth of an individual together with
ecological sustainability
equitable economy and
some other point anyway when i fear about this sounds like these people are concerned about nirvana
and your vaughn is not accept not the same as a utopia
nirvana can be found in a situation where there's injustice
but the nirvana
his medicine for the injustices
so there's a constant in our constant there's an ongoing dynamic between there's a kind of there's a potential conversation here between these different agendas and different opinions about how to realize them
but again we need to take care of ourselves
so that we have actually the the the spirit the freshness the willingness to do this work
so i welcome your feedback for the rest of the class and any conversations you'd like to have
seems like that justice and was
i'm working the world and boss a lot of judgments seems like a difficulty with me
you ready to give a judgment and there's a tendency to attribute bad the others
like if there's an ngo injustice or similar scheme injustice
too bad
he also very quickly gives him to close
bad yeah
along with that
five because i focused on just the
political well there's a lot of
we use that time they use what all the time use that tendency for demonization if they use the township pretty to demon to demonize them to judge to categorize the scenes are bad people yeah and on all sides will i see that i see
but it's very difficult letting the frustration i always have it's funny when i think in the political realm but it off i see that it affects me emotionally and what i always feel is the i'm not been heard that i've been denigrated kind of like that of user i feel that my dialogue yourself
is very difficult who is very difficult there's not really like a space or an easy space can kind of public discourse to talk you know because it's very quickly
first forces that one of divide and
people see as other and i was trying to think of how it can get beyond out and in one way to get the on the i i can't have his name that people kind of why the same
but it's it's very difficult to come into people to say
a things like the ever was cool
like maybe it's his happiness
it very quickly becomes demonized about your bad evil
you stupid
well as far as a yeah that that's that's true it's easy to slip into demonizing
in this example of the veterans
i don't know if anybody thinks it's good that they're a matter of any americans think it's good to teach these kids are coming back with post-traumatic stress i don't i don't know
anybody thinks that's good
i'm also another another factor is that this might my friends said that
that's may not be accurate they said ninety percent of the
you know the enlisted men
in this war i have less than a high school graduation high school degree
so they're they're like uneducated the uneducated part of our society are being
recruited into into this situation
and he said it's the case around this he said it's kind like what it's like the liberal paranoid dream
at that you know that the administration partners in we're not taking care of these people is administration doesn't want people to recognize the cost of the war to take care of them would not only draw attention to the the cost of the war in terms of human damage
but i would also take a lot of money to take care of these guys
so the country got involved the war but we didn't say by the way narrow is gonna cost this much do the war but it's gonna cost this much to take care of the soldiers afterwards
didn't even look at that now that we find out that to take care of these boys and girls their children
from my perspective they're just kids they're like the practically i can have grandchildren their age and they are not being taken care of and to take care of them would be very expensive
for the american people and and so we probably should do that but who's responsible and
maybe the people who are responsible don't want us to know that they're responsible because then we would be more
challenged to respect them and appreciate them than we are now
so we hear these things it's very easy to demonize them or at least to say that they were really are not thinking straight when they got into this because he didn't consider the costs
i think that there's also a sense of my mind that are people
the way i see things his pupil not much as ever asked the us as a society someone sometimes we're all we're also all such as complicit because there's a kind of affection that goes on
you don't really see the problem or
how say that the town
it's matches the people that don't want to see of were very willing to turn off that it had away from the cost
i mean i feel that
mine is working
for psychiatric social worker
very similar situation that an think figures from one very young soldiers returning from iraq
she mentioned that they were older and gather home of she doesn't really
access to enough shelters
i am
another question
think it's hard for me personally to find that
person that's not the quiet person because for easily get caught up emotionally and nelson has i feel very fine
and he actually
i think this i think the what caught the person you know me who can be quiet
that's not the one is not busy that's the busy one who has been quiet matches
and then in the busy one should be quite sometimes too
but whether i'm quiet are talking for the i'm sitting still or walking that's the busy one the one who can sit down sit down and stand up the one who can talk into and not talk as the busy one
and if you remember the not busy when the not busy one wolf is the where you get the fuel to get up and act
from here
from your your connection to all beings which is your connection with all beings is the one who not busy
so the busy once it's good for the busy want to be aware that she might be that she might be what he called lazy or afraid or are pretty caught them yeah
it's good to be open to that possibility i don't want you to get frightened that you're going to become indolent by think it's good to be open to the possibility that you're being indolent or cowardly
i i i i feel that way my busy the busy person here
we'd like you to be open to the possibility of
being negligent
in your action
and also open the possibility being negligent in your action
and if you act self righteously i think that as negligent vis-a-vis justice
buy things going to be open to that we could be self-righteous about issues of justice because
i think that openness will promote justice and then if people feel like we're being self righteous about our opinions of was just and were open to that we could be self-righteous when they come up to isn't and site us for being self-righteous we can say oh
ah i hear you the my fact i think you're right i think i am be jobs self righteous thank you
appreciate that i i mean i kind of suspected it but when you said it like not gonna get a chance to say yeah you're right
the one who is not busy sponsors me to be open to that i'm a bad guy
or even a bad girl
and be opened that i can be in a negligent lazy
open to that opened that you can be unjust
open to that your friends could be unjust
open to the people that you respect being unjust
open to the people that you don't respect
has been that they might be just opened to you're lacking of respecting people has
really stupid
but most of you probably are open to the possibility that your lack of respect for people who stupid right you're open to that right
pretty tough
even a year
you have for you you say it's tough for you to be open to those stupid vienna to respect people
there are moments there are moments when you think it's not stupid for you disrespect me that it's smart
okay well
thank you for telling us on grata am that we have one evil person in this class
please come i keep coming we need you because the rest of us
but anyway i you might you might change and you might become like more like he might continue to disrespect some people but be quicker to notice hey i'm being kind of stupid
i'm doing i'm disrespecting people and i don't think that's cool that's not the way i want to be
i'm off i'm off my track when i'm being disrespectful but i still get off track sometimes
i do sometimes have a disrespectful thought about some people
but i don't think well that's good that i have that thought
but maybe i don't even think that's good that i have the thought that these there are some extent there are some exceptions
to the general practice of respecting beings there's some days we should not respect right
no that's not the body surf the web
yeah yeah body surface often say there's some beings who are hard to respect and i vow to respect them
challenging people are numberless i vowed to respect them
beings who are difficult to respect are boundless
i vowed to learn to respect them
listen to voted out consider the possibility of challenge
that's good too
no matter reception
i think this is an exercise with supports the realization of justice these vows
that's an opinion
that it curves in my mind

opinions are rising about the city
various opinions
perhaps no disrespect
thank you so much


you find what challenging

or or you can be viewed as something greater
particularly by your son with yeah possibly particularly by yourself
that you can you could take on greater for not being competitive than these people are who are being competitive i'm better than them
and i'd rather be i'd rather be better than them and have them not and then look down on me for not being competitive than being competitive i like my superior position

the week but i think i think the realization of justice i think requires that we respect people who we think are doing
i'm unskillful things that we respect them not like them but respect them
love them not like them because if we don't are not like that someone's doing something that's hurting them and distracting themselves from what the really important in their life
if somebody's that way at work than they have some kind of they have post-traumatic stress when they go home you know then they go home and and do the same thing with their
like this war like the soldiers they go home and they ducked when the kids come in the room
you know it's reasonable to duck they duck duck when the garbage collectors come
so the same way if if you're competitive and trying to beat people that work
and when you go home
toby don't be put to be a post-traumatic stress version of that at home and your family will suffer you don't want to you're working to help your family not to hurt your family but if you hurt the other people at work and you go home and you hurt your family the process
as yvonne officers is pervasive
and but if you can respect these people then you can go home and you can respect your children as they grow up and turn into competitive creatures
so if the love these people to learn to love them
even while they are being unskillful
not to like harmful behavior but not too
dislike it of course not to like it but also not to hate it but to love it to respected as a force of nature
who are like forces of nature on skillfully manifesting
if you can respect them
if you can love them
that will help them change into more and more skillful beings the first way
to help them change is for somebody
not to like them or disliked but somebody to love them and who sees them as they are
then they can change
in a positive way
the first way you change them is by being generous
but it's difficult to be generous to people who are beating up another keep on trying to beat them
the steps that's that's again
that's one that's a person is difficult to respect
and respect again me that the person of difficult to look again and say now they look on skillful nose look again and see what's what else is there let's take another look let's close our eyes and start over with this person
oh now i see a frightened little boy a frightened little girl
they're afraid to fail they're afraid to be beaten they're afraid of what will happen if they lose and so they present this
aggressive front
so yeah this is very hard but
this is unique this an area where you can work for justice where where you can meet somebody who's has a different style than you so sometimes in this situation if certain like so-called preaching to the choir
but fortunately some of you spend time outside the choir booth or
where's the choir go the choir loft some of you leave the choir now and go among people who do not value being gentle and kind without other people you go among people who are frightened
an aggressive ever ha you go into the tavern is to leave the tabernacle and going to the tavern
so it's nice if you work there carmen and it's nice to you work where you worked on and and it's nice of my friend is
working with his judge and he's gonna repeal it and an appeal it an appealing because he cares about these kids and he seventy two and he said this is why it's hard for me to cut back in my work because i want to work on this case i keep working on it
and over the years he's become less self righteous
i bought this kind of thing disability rights
and he's had a wonderful successes
eyes it's a wonderful
but this is a this is a loss which you know he said we don't usually like to lose trials but it's been discredited of hope here for this to for the appeal so i'm glad that some of your record right up there against heavy opposition the judges who are standing
you know
in some sense still protecting the government officials who are not taken care of these kids
this is a strong
this is a great place for you and it's very hard and if you can't do it
can perfectly yet
hey i wouldn't be able to either
so thank you for working in such an environment
thank you for working in such environment one of those people
thank you for working with people like her
petrov hold uses

that's a good introduction


yeah that would be great and like i say i i'm i'm trying to form a clear commitment
to keep working on this have some way that like realistic for me
to literally offer a class on this topic is one way to do it but
yeah maybe some other ways to
yeah yeah
hmm interest for me on to just or you know like in my case insidious situation of
playing the role of a teacher was students
it's not that the that the teacher equals the student we have different responsibilities a student teacher have different responsibilities to teacher the student doesn't have to give up being the teacher students to give up being a student and become the teacher the teacher to give up being a teacher and become the students they have different things to give up in order to realize
and are incensed and ultimately to realize equality but temporarily we don't have a quality but how do we just they work with the inequalities in a way that's really seems
gentle upright
and so on this is the ongoing work to recognize the inequalities in buddhist organizations with as communities student teacher relationship
and you not try to find justice and peace in the relationship
by inviting people to look at
whether there is whether whether the way we're doing it is really helping everybody
so as the way we're doing this class helping everybody
and if not please give feedback
with love
but as teacher and
there are a couple times where i thought that
and i know
but guess i know
i think as a teacher and mentor to myself there is there is that power differential and there's sometimes a track that happened the of trying to either maintain control
whatever reason i think we're that as teachers long ago
being unjust or not value somebody
or participation
and i i think the opening that discussion special ed
as a teacher
as you already said
that's part of
investigation that power the power differential is real
please to make some people
while i invite you at in many cases where you where you feel some injustice or some
if you feel some stifling is going on or if you feel like there's lack of respect for some as contribution to to bring it up if you see it sort of at the time and say now i'm feeling
some lack of respect in that
and her lack of appreciation in that and do you do feel that
teacher you feel that and then i welcome that kind of on the spot questioning
the good
i received anything why sometimes them justice continues was there
you know like neck case goes to the vertical
but however power is attributed to you or whatever power means it feels like it he says some the angles substantial
so i don't want to be that for right so there might be some fear even though i asked for feedback and might be some fear that
if you gave it still even though i asked for it is still something might happen earlier yeah great noun
right so the i would hire by still would encourage you even if you're afraid
to remember that the imitation is there and then also the invitation to others is there it to give feedback on how i would receive your feedback so if you say i feel like you weren't appreciative respectful or whatever of was songs are just contributed
and then if i'm
and if i'm not appreciative of view but you can't even say anything because it hurts so much if i'm not appreciative you and if somebody else's invited to say well now we don't i don't feel your appreciative of his
you know and eventually
when people realize that there are invited to do this
things are start you know become justified
in under the the things will start flowing
if you if but it does require that you don't shut up every time you feel frightened sometimes if you only speak when you're not afraid there's some opportunities are going to be missed
so yeah you know the the rope is being spun you're being invited to enter but it doesn't mean you're not going to hit my face by the rope if you don't synchronize right k others
but you aren't be invited to join the the process
but it's not guarantee that you'll never get hurt
but it it is guaranteed that you will learn
that's guaranteed you will learn if you enter
and if you're afraid when you jump in that sometimes makes it harder to get with the with the flow
but then you learn that to say it doesn't mean you still want to try again and after a while maybe you're not afraid and you jump in and you're not afraid and and you can join right away without the extra burden of
of the fear
and more confidence that you can that you can do that and that there will be helpful
and then you can also invite people to give you feedback when you get feedback and so on so this is what i ah this is this is a m
this is another way i think that we can keep working on
justice without necessarily having a call event be about justice that we realized justice in whatever we're studying and whatever were whatever kind of practices were working at the ongoing work of justice in the social venue of this of the practice is understood
agenda i understood value that we have to keep working on them

the disability
so i was working full time and
i never
so for collecting disability
but you're paying me is
so i started thinking
there's something wrong
it shouldn't be paid for days
you know i'm not really stepped up
it became really education for me i didn't know what to do about it
i i just cut off
and i think what i should have done
call them and say

days of working part-time
anyway i'm just giving you feedback
he hours
thank you
i happy birthday
you can think
honestly or whatever
i'm not realize

that's kind of i didn't
no he didn't know what to do about it when you realized that you didn't feel like you're being honest or when you realize that you might have been dishonest at that point you to know what to do
but in when you discover that that's really good
that was gonna like everything
yes has good to discover that
so that's what
when you realize that young however when you when you slip into being dishonest without realizing it it makes it harder for you to be a less judgmental with other people who are who are am
being dishonest and thinking they're being asked
makes it harder so the key is the key is to be aware of my own shortcomings that healthy tolerate other people who are doing the same thing who have do not yet know about it
because i know that i once didn't know
so i can go up and tell these people who don't know about their shortcomings about mine and they wonder why i'm telling about my shortcomings
why is he bringing this weird and mean he doesn't have a shortcomings but why is he telling me
honey i didn't ask him i didn't accuse him he just volunteered his own shortcomings
what's got could he be implying perhaps no no no no very fashionable outfit
thank you as a good example
any other feedback yes i got you would be helpful in proceeding in talking about this more to talk about all the other side of underlying
philosophy for psychology and buddha
really can be useful
for example working with the precepts and justice for the whole concept of dependent origination and to chemical rising
we make judgements about people and how we used our understanding of the pentagon
as a way to deal with
someone else in situation
so south korean what you've talked about how much it about telling stories recognizing your own delusion
and so you see something in the paint a picture of injustice and evilness but maybe better think that time he understood that nancy and networks yeah but there are a lot of way things you've talked about over the years that i think can be integrated into
how do we can actually
this concept of
living social justice yes a when when people when you when i are other people are painting pictures of injustice
could we we can have an exercise of can we open up the storytelling a little bit here
yeah no to that to recognize that that was a story of injustice could we could be tell a different story
and that perhaps that that wasn't it grew tell story about how wasn't injustice and if somebody might say no we can't tell that story and then you say okay so now can we discuss the possibility of opening up the story know we can't talk about that either and so
yeah i've been curious yeah this isn't just some curiosity curious some curiosity about this story about evil other people's evil or some curiosity allowed people are no no curiosity is allowed she okay
so then that's pretty good though because people are to admit that this isn't allowed this isn't allowed in islam and all this allowed is that what i say has taken as true about these injustices that's all is allowed and that's maybe enough for today thank you
had we've had we've identified and intolerant opinionated person yeah without without anybody saying anything about that person but that person could get to demonstrate that and then name than the concert like see how that works for a while
examples of injustice to talk about the i could just come details and we can really get this to yeah and then we can do with a we can consider sometime not telling any stories but consider the possibility of questioning all the stories
like this guy what's his name mark miller is milan kundera
i'm in milan milan kundera yeah so he says he wrote this book called the book of life he recalled the book of laughter and forgetting so easy he has his he tells his stories you know who take place in czechoslovakia during the time of the communist domination of of the check
czechoslovakia and he tells a story and then the at the industry says well i didn't that's not really true didn't really happen that way and then it tells another version of the story and and he says but that wasn't what happened either and then it tells another story
so then he going to explains after the books or reset i tell stories and then i tell another story which contradicts the first story
so the to stimulate questioning of the stories
he said questioning is the spirit of
is the life of wisdom and believing your stories are neuer not knowing your stories and have an answers to your stories
is stupid
polarization yeah though we need to process where we tell stories and we welcome other people to tell other stories are we tell stories and then we tell another story about her own story
to show people that we tell stories but then were willing to tell a different story that contradicts our first story about ourselves so then maybe they could tell stories and and they could tell the story to conduct their story or we could tell a story to contradict her story in this way is not is not to like say their stories are wrong just because we don't agree with them but
by the conversation to give rise to questioning to give rise to wisdom by the confrontation of these different stories
to get wisdom rather than just better and better stories that are more and more impregnable to ever been wrong

talk about how to create
my personal life

and when we haven't found a shared goal yet then what do we do
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yeah no that is that helpful that arrangement
if not a suggestions
the goal
striker strike

hospitals i'm just strikes me that
the moment i had i justice when i distance myself from recognizing my conventional means
did you say the moment you have an idea of justice you just you distance yourself
what i've seen it myself
as far as a passion
suddenly i don't feel connected
i suddenly have to
was right there man
yeah because you started this whole class
energy is the life force
attention is like a life was immediately
maybe be tracked
because that's where i started jennifer
and that's where i find it difficult to be compassionate
where people
so it just strikes me that thinking about the seven
the source of the challenge for me is going to bed ideas
me that my goal contemplated life is not you
all pray that attracted energy comes from cash
did you recognize part of the lights around me to recognize be compassionate people who are pulled into an attractive
and yet myself play it but not with that kind of attraction that just creates occasion myself and that's all identified
so i i'd just rather than stellar
then i'm here
yeah so you have a suggestion of how to retool it on wiping what jury start talking about
resonate with me as the psychology you know how ideas of justice create that
explore that
in psychology
it was very encouraged to hear
thank you
i thought they said
home by wallace stevens called the well dressed man revered as began after the final now they're tossing yes on that yes the future world hands
the last line of the palmers it can never be satisfied the human mind never
was thinking that
as we formulate an idea of justice
true justice
those further
he's always been
a more perfect justice just
we'll just sort of chip away at idea
as we think about
talk about it
they said we're going to chip away are we chipping away at well as if we were talking some idea of justice you have some a rough idea
so it will make with were sculpting as or this idea of justice
yeah and then what does while stevens tell us to do it that was were doing this arena the ambitious it can never be satisfied never
i think you know just realizing that it
there's some idea of justice said
my youngest to be a little more tolerant people
is that justice done second chance or to realize that it
we are

for justice
we're not going to realize what it is because ah because we're never satisfied
will never be set whenever it's almost like there's a man will finally get up to one way or another will go ahead
oh just another
have a realization of the mountain this action
thirty thousand
we're considered normal right unhealthy for society a hundred years ago today
the shocked and appalled because they're are happening in some other part of the world where we were doing the exact same thing to remember hundred years ago for instance women going outside with that hat on was considered
very loose in this country not so long ago he get we think well muslim when when i will leave a press because they can't go out now
i mean i think we just need a little more perspective and away and at the same time that it's important for our goals to
to have to have a goal it goes further than what we can pitch

william one of that was it was for the last comment as feedback is is that yes
i am i saw a bumper sticker three years ago it's really stuck with me from and i'm sure this is not the source is stuck to you
it's instagram really
a year on this is not an original thought necessarily but if if if it had made the right time to observe it
which was the statement that
there is no way to peace peace is the way
and i feel like that applies the justice that is not a state to be achieved but it's a process to be carried on

if no into it there's no into it
the first
last night was tablet
because i had a very fixed
idea that learning i had about justice and that justice was the wrong
the way universal thing all violence have
well well i say is is this way these waves you hear me
to really get ideas for there's a lot of i got what you intended but my own mind opening up of that that is that can happen that have seen justice isn't a thing
that's where of us this day and it's really been a great
he said
feel like i'm kenny
the it's also like ikea okay yeah and it's why it's not a perfect
his life
here you can to thank you for feedback
we have the basic principle of
the meaning is not in the word justice the meanings not in the word
but if you if you bring energy to it the meaning emerges from the media from the interaction between the energy and the word
meeting comes forth and that's not a one time thing
if energy comes forth again more meaning comes and more meeting comes a more energy you bring to the to the poem or the were justice or whatever the more meaning my life comes out of this interaction between the word justice the the thought just as the concept justice and energy we go
give to it
and is endless
and you can go to other words to but this is one of the words i think we should be
bringing energy to
otherwise than the meaning of the word justice will be missing from our repertoire
who's this can ask in the parlance of what you've talked about before would you say that's creating a ritual with justice
to make the i gotcha i kind of feel like this class was a ceremony dedicated to justice
including the ceremony of asking for feedback and new giving feedback
i see that as a ceremony for the sake of realizing the meaning of the word justice
but the word injustice also has a meaning
and if we brought our lot of energy and to the word injustice that would also bring meaning
various things have meaning
so the woods the word justice and injustice have been the recipients of a lot of energy for the last five weeks from this group of people and i hope we continue to
give our life to this to this topic
and we said truth and justice is classed about truth and justice for truth gets quite a bit of attention in buddhism
lot of energy brought to the word truth to get the meaning of the word truth
the were justice has not been brought
how'd that english word is not your not got much attention
but it got some the last five weeks and i that was great i hope you continue to contribute your life to this interaction
two images that have been coming back for the last few weeks one is you know the traditional image of justice which is a scale is constantly constantly in motion balancing
the other is the intersection of the vertical and horizontal
have this
absolutely no shame
non separation that intersects with the conventional
and at that point of intersection
justice is somewhere
yeah there's some there's a dog and actually a
uses the image of a steel yard
which is a you know
a piece of steel brownstoner on a beam as a measuring device
as a way to talk about
the truth
really the truth
how to choose the somewhere in an interception yes worry
no laurie

there's no

raising children
necessary to use
the national

and we're like i think we're children
to come
conventional ideas
comes out realization

the training


while thank you for your
the gift of your energy to this sir
kind of frontier study
the zen tradition
this frontier discussion
have a topic that doesn't get discussed hinder
in the usual ritual setting
hey the us tonight
the uk