thank you
so i've been getting ready to
start observing
aren't the consciousness of comic consciousness
self consciousness
afflicted consciousness
and
also i've heard i've heard that sound has been turned up
ha ha you can you hear me well peter
pardon
it's a little affliction
did you hear that bullets
port of affliction
the sound
this is a little irritated or painful
irritating
irritating
it's hard to hear
to think paul might have to turn it down a little bit of what do you think we can test it let's let's do some testing okay how's this
this is is this good
good over here how is a good over there is good
yeah so how how's our how is the hearing going now
good good grade k so
the this field this enclosure is enclosed awareness
is one of the types of awareness
that we have in our life and
hum
if we take good care of it
we will understand it and if we understand it
we've done our buddha responsibility
he's too
when we become we were do put his work when we contemplate just and see its beauty and truth these things are not i don't i don't think we're supposed to eliminate these things and nobody's we're not
and the is not going to come in and fix the situation
we may want somebody to come and fix it
but buddhist not going to fix it boot is going to teach dharma about this situation and by teaching the dharma and if we listen as a teaching an experiment with it in this field we will understand these phenomena
and understanding these phenomena this buddha
but it's painful perfect sometimes
and we're all doing it like elizabeth just observe some irritation in her consciousness and reported it
the
staff the static coming back okay anybody else here in the static
maybe you're so
i can i can do i can definitely
i can definitely with this

and how is that
better
better
keep talking and you'll see okay
so
so there's your teaching from ancient india from the wonderful body sought for a of bondo and he said that in this in this consciousness
there is a sense of self
how does the i there's there's that there's the phenomenon of self
and
all the phenomena in this cut in this kind of consciousness comes in five
varieties and anything that's going on there
if you report it to a
to someone who's trained at this teaching of these five variety he's also fold in sanskrit called five scandals and poly called five condos and condominiums are scanned image aggregate or heap sick category so there's many finance
mina but basically five types and anything you observe their if you were reported someone who's trained in this can tell you which are those five it goes in and you might not be able to surprise them
with anything that they couldn't see as this one of these five types
and if your report itself they would ask you to tell it to tell more about the self is
is it a is it a month isn't material data is it a light
smell a sound taste
a touch
and the those physical phenomena could be give a sense of self like well that's my smell that's my sound or that sound of me
that's my touch
and then the sense of self might just be one of those experience of one of those data
but most people would say well that's not really myself
the color that sound
and but it could that could be your sense of self at the moment
you're not you you
it might see as there's not much i usually but i think i might as myself
and it could be a it could be a feeling pain pleasure neutral it could be idea a concept
emotions
and you can be consciousness
and if you would report to the are phenomenal experience of this sense of self
i do you might find that is never anything more than one of those kinds of data when those kinds of phenomena
and yet people often think that to sell something in addition to those things something that it's something is something in addition to feeling is something in addition to emotions is something and dish in addition to who were a kind of consciousness of
baroness many of you know i i had this i draw this picture you know of everything like a circle
everything and then there's some something more
there's everything in the universe plus something there's something in addition to everything and it just happens to beat me
that's what you don't think that you don't think i'm an addition everything but there is something that you might think as an addition that it might be you
even though that doesn't make sense there's there is that idea
so
ah the self according to vostro bondo comes with for afflictions one is self confusion and again i just talked about the self confusion that we if you have any experience of it it must be one of these types and
if you look at those can be confusing because you don't really think you are you don't really think your pleasure
you don't think your pain you don't think here in neutral sensation but in fact
you know that's what your experience at the time and and and you kind of kind of confuse you kind of well that's that's that's what i'm getting the sense of self
so there is a basic confusion because it's like
it has to be what's going on here and yet it's not one of those things
this sample of self confusion and that confusion is ranges from irritating and nauseating to excruciating to intolerable
yeah some people just
the just
they cannot stand the confusion around the self and of course then there's an emotion which can come up which might be seen as a self to but just a martian i want to get rid of this to get rid of all listening
if i got rid of the self i'd get rid of that it's true if you didn't have herself you wouldn't have that self confusion
but wanting to get rid of it is just which it's another affliction
it's probably on
is probably that
sell pride sell pride is i think associated with the idea that in this field of consciousness with all these afflictions
whichever ones are here at the moment
and that overall pattern which is the for thinking or the
the actual action of the consciousness is is what is the overall pattern there's just pride that the self
it's actually operating this pattern that the self makes it that the self
the self is doing the action
like i'm angry
that's that's kind of prideful thing is that i'm i'm doing the anger
i'm greedy
or i'm not angry and i'm not greedy
i'm thinking
i'm feeling
so the self is in the the the sense of self is in the field where there's something going on
and then there's his i'd there's this affliction which is the thought that the self is actually operating what's going on
and that's that's aggregate into the self much more than it actually is do it's actually it's like a big family was like fifteen members in it and one of them says hi own on your i own the rest of you
and human beings can think like that they can have they're up with top notes i'm really thinking human being can have to just thought thinking is the pattern in which that thought lives
and you don't have to teach people how to think like that or to how to have their sights they can come up with some quite naturally i could use the example of my grandson he came to gringotts one time and there was a play area and have lots of toys there and he like just after he'd only been there a couple times he said
diesel all these tours are mine
i left them here the last time i was here
children can think like that
it's kind of a complicated thought you walk in some places that i own all this stuff and then i've but i've never been here before i never saw those toys why i left him here the last time i was here kind of clever
the backup this idea that the self owns was going on
usually when semi reasonable adults when they arrive at some place that never been there before they don't walk in and think i own this place
but actually there for a while it they kind of succumb to the idea that the one is one idea of this one feeling on this one emotion in the field owns everything else in the field and is very rare although i think it's a good exercise a good experiment that there's the idea
ia that the feelings operate the self or that the feelings on the self when that the thoughts on the surface more like my thoughts rather than my thoughts on me
the reversal of it helps caesar's than it's not true they just coexist they're actually all companions and they all come up together is right the self as their first and and the sub brings on them the rest of the events that the self there and then the self makes to thinking the conch
business comes up with and it has a pattern it always comes up with lots of stuff and the stuff has a pattern which is clear unclear
and there's a self sends a self there and then this consciousness goes away the self goes away and the whole pattern goes away and then know next week i'm know none of them are there before him pushing the rest of them up the ultimate dependent core rising
the ultimate together go into their born together and die together
but there's an affliction
oh i so i did this
and again even i'm responsible which is that word responsible which we can play with i'm responsible
but actually everything in the field is responsible not just the i is responsible but not uniquely but again that's the as the affliction of show pride the other one i mentioned his self esteem or self love which is that even though we sense all the affliction around the self
and we kind of want to get rid of it when it's really tough we don't want to trade it for somebody else
even though it's a problem we if we're going to have one won't want this one
and the other one is ah
ah that's self esteem or self love and the other one is so view there's this sense of ego centers that the self is center the self is at the center but the feeling isn't that center the idea isn't that center
but actually they're all equally at the center and none are uniquely at the center
all our the center of a huge pattern of dependent quarter arising
about everything coming together to make this feeling this emotion this idea this fear this pride this face this appreciation each one of those things is at the center of the universe
but they're usually isn't the idea that that that that there's invasion of view that their the center there's the view that the self as at the center
so those are flicks a switch were told by that ancient teacher they just come up every moment so the self comes up lots of other stuff comes and is for afflictions always come up
green comes up but usually agree doesn't come up the same time as hatred they usually alternate
or even be neither one of missouri need to have confusion but the sense of self is if it isn't area isn't comrade consciousness
the comic pattern has has a self
with it and the self is actually part of the pattern it's not like up above are over to the side you could put it at the center but don't doesn't drink to have to be there it's only the center in the sense of everything else being at the center so studying this field
a relief from the fixed patterns of affliction
and actually for the sake of understanding what the self actually is

and how to study is you know that's that's the heart how to study the comic the hardest starting common consciousness it's it's an art
an edge science
so buddhist science studies this this field it observes in experiments it plays and the absorb starvation works well in silence and stillness when we feel supported to really like
harman just have the responsibility to clearly observe has the sound
singing okay well see wanted to tell me i'm just kidding
it's thinking now
okay
well let me know if if if if thinking to say thinking

thank you
so here's a story should use his historic one teacher who had a was really good at
testing karmic consciousness and helping people test karmic consciousness
so one time a student came to him and
not many way he came to him and he became one with leaders of his community he became the director of the monastery but he he never came to to see the teacher
the great wonderful teacher whose name was dharma i
or my eyes fi un and so one day fi and said to the director
hum
how come you never come into my room to discuss the dharma with me
and director said oh didn't you know i had to you know i had awakening with the southern teacher

some people think that after you have awakening with it with worth it
maybe written a really good teacher that that's the end of the story and you don't any of your you don't want talk to other teacher said and
disgusted or in are you don't discuss the dharma than and mark as you're done anyway there were some like that and his understanding and fi un said
oh or tell me about it
by an is probing his own mind and directors mind tell me about it
he's experimenting with his own mind at the same time that he's inviting the director to look at himself and tell them what what happened how he sees things and he it started when he first and you've been here for quite awhile how can we never come as testing consciousness
when or would have i don't see him coming i have a question about that i think i'll give them a question

questioning as a gift as a dharma gift so teacher says how can we don't come and he said he explained and the teacher asked more questions will tell me about it this guy says well i asked the teacher what is the self of the student in other words what what is myself
and the teacher said
the fire god comes seeking fire
it's actually
fire boy god the fire god comes seeking fire
and and i understand arrow pio i get i became a week to talk to myself toward the self is
and vi and said won't tell me more and he said well
in the realm of the fire god the fire god come seeking fire even though is already is fire
and he's in that's like in the realm of buddha i come looking buddha comes looking for buddha and finance have ah ok
well i sort i thought i didn't think you understood
i thought you didn't and so on i'm asking these questions and now and i see yeah you don't understand
actually it's i think those are fine words of the previous teacher but i don't think you understood
and
i would say to in in light of our conversation that the directors in did not look at his consciousness he did not look to see always going on there and there and therefore he became what he called a puppet of his anger
he didn't look and say oh i'm angry what that about
he just got angry angry about what while the teacher saying i don't think you understood
he didn't look and see what's what is that and so he did get angry but he didn't yell at the teacher when i really just left the monastery
as was leaving after a while he
he thought well he's a teacher of all these all these people and maybe he maybe i should give them another chance
so i went back to the teacher and he said okay
i'm sorry i got angry i'm sorry i
ran away but i'm back
so how shall we proceed
and fi and said will ask me again what you ask the other teacher

and so i said what's so what's the self for the student and fi and said the fire god come seeking fire
and he understood actually understood that time
but i think try and help them to study more deeply
so he saw it new in he saw it in a more authentic way what is self was he learned something about himself in the process in that dialogue that they went through and in the anger he went through and and not taking care of it and storming out or walking away and coming back all that now we do it now we're going to do it again
it's a it's a good teaching what is the self fire god come seeking viral
he understood so that was the way the congress a the teacher and conversation
help the student understand the self
and he did that same method of getting people to look again at the situation and subtle different ways
are subtly different ways are slightly different ways to get different perspectives on there clinging or there you know being charged up or on some part of the process so they can become free
not by getting rid of this
but by seeing more deeply and more kindly
yes
so defiant see that the director hat
anger that
i think he probably could see it because he probably could see something in his body language but he i think what is saw before he saw this person is not coming to see me and usually
people in this monastery come and talk to me about the dharma so that's already kind of unusual
like are they afraid of me they might be afraid of him cause a big important teacher they might be afraid to show their the to share their questions about the dharma
they don't want to teach her to see that they don't know very much even though there are no leadership position is that he thinks he's finished and there's no more no more depth it that they didn't go in the dharma unlike dogan that he he knows everything is that just another possibility
lot of reasons but the teacher didn't know teacher to know the teachers a walk but did you did see he's not coming to study with me
he knew to talk to him but i i got sick i know he's not he he just knew that the person wasn't coming to see him he didn't know why so several how come you don't come to see me in the guy told me well i'm already awakened
oh you know and that was a possibility of the first place maybe he's not coming to see me because he thinks he's perfect some people do think that about themselves can you believe it and especially in in a religious practice places people think like that quite often
and when we have all this
violence now and the world because people think they understand spiritual truth and and they're done learning there are no longer students
people some people think like the i'm no longer a student of islam or judaism or christianity or buddhism
i'm a master i like to guarantee a further training
i used in our story how many people heard this one one time i was at tassajara during guess season and i was having breakfast with the guests and one of the guest i was having breakfast were said to me
do you live here and i said yes how many for will heard that story
come and tell it do i tell it okay
so
yeah i'm i remembered and i don't remember to and this is a way i don't remember it
she said you live your and i said yes he said are you a student here and i said yes and i wasn't being modest i am a student
if it's fun to be a student i love it i've loved it from the beginning and then i'm not planning on retiring as a student you know i told her that than later she said just to someone of the services that who was that masked man
and the service said wants to abbott and she was so happy
to hear that the abbot was a student
rather than the abbot not student anymore
so anyway this person wasn't a student
he was done he was a master
that's already assigned some funny funnier something's not being examined so this decent examination how come and then he told him because i had this awakening oh wow how did and it happened and he told him while i asked him this question and when he and and when
when he answered my question i understood what he meant when he's when he i understand what the self what myself was when he said the fire gods come seeking fire i understood the self
that's what the dry director said
and i don't think the fire was kind of suspicious but it wasn't like he was
yeah he wasn't at the conclusion he said well
tell me more
i'm afraid you might know another understood him so tell me more and he did and then he listened to listen this at home yeah yeah i guess
yeah yeah i don't think he did understand
and then i hit teacher probably wasn't surprised that
the the director got angry
because here's a master and somebody saying will actually there's there's something you don't stand master
and then he probably cause he's got angry
oh by the way one and one thing he said after this guy left he said to his attended if he comes back he can be liberated
it doesn't
he strapped
but he did come back for to have story and and you can see five years method throughout and the middle the final thing as just to go back to the original thing
and just play with a little bit and helped the person see that things are really different from what they thought not given some whole new teaching but just take what they were actually focusing on and just short flight from the other side and it worked and it does many stories was him doing that with people
checking them out and they respond and they check them again and their respond and then checksum again and they they see
this is a truce of the self
can further questions about that
well
yes
well yes
what pests
but it was the difference between well
hit part of was that he was not in person
status
yes
the second time
what was his interesting
that time
really
well was it just that he will to society
he understood that effort
that's a tendency or he probably understood that before i came back that he was he was he was learning more throughout the process
and then instead of giving them and up talking about his anger whatever or his arrogance fiat use the original incident where he thought he had awakening and brought it up again and to see what is awakening was now
and he can see that it was a i think he could see it wasn't the same
and it wasn't and maybe this time
when he sought when he awoke in the second time maybe he saw it in a way that he saw he wasn't done
and maybe he saw how arrogant he was
and now made the the the scope of what he saw it could have been very large
and it's funny thing is if it's very large you're not done with it and if it's kind of small he said because i got it i got a hold of it but it's very big his own home now ice now i see
himself high perhaps the i know he's self pride is ridiculous
you know are now i see to thinking that i could get a hold of the dharma like i did used to think i did thinking that be grasping this was really understanding now i see how silly that is
this reminds me of
there was this christian person who they call st thomas aquinas and he was one of the great philosophers of the christian church in the medieval times and he wrote all this magnificent teachings of systematizing the science of christianity
and then he had a an awakening and he saw how all the stuff he did which was like
made him a saint
how he said it was like pieces of straw thrown into the vast space
that was his great awakening and east operating
so again when when use have a really big or big awakening you might not think that you could you know read anything about it
his when before his awakenings who are great
but any good right about it but when he finally had the big when he had he couldn't him he can say anything
he just continued to live live as the great st for the rest of his life but no more writing here it just it didn't it didn't he didn't reach it didn't touch it and he wasn't going to and he didn't destroy his books which some some dentures what their books destroyed
because a way than people think that's what that's what they understood as his words
so a lot of advantages there's i should lock several a great teachers they saw that this this teaching that the game should not be written down but then their students rip it brought it down so we have all these books
the students write it down with the teacher didn't want to have written down
no i don't but i think he must have been pretty old because he wrote so much he couldn't have written all that before it was fifty
he does wrote a tremendous amount so he might have he he was having no harm and lived after that but he didn't write anything after them but he might have lived peacefully
you know quite a while after that i don't know the dates of those things and but visa i can check the dates of his last major works and then is in the day he died he might have been five years ten years but he wasn't a kid when he had the insight because he had already done a huge i guess he's
the most prolific philosopher i'm in the christian church yes me
meriam thomas aquinas is worse
get samsung
hey here
think it will put some light
bed is not yours
i guess i'll do that i know a way to do that
have you right back
gonna go to the control panel
which is modeled on my consciousness

springing invited
is a good
well we are close to from because these here
how about we have a
how about the the light than lighter scale ones yeah

read get a preference for liberation such as required we got a good

eyes
i'll check but my first ended at first sight i do not have a pressure preference for my work
my my buddy sought for work i don't have a preference for it
i'm but i'm i'm committed to it and i love doing it but i don't prefer it therefore i can sit at the table and without giving a lecture
theresa know so if i sit at a table with people they do not want me to give a lecture they want to eat and talk to each other they don't want to have a lecture on buddhism or they don't want me to liberate them
they you know about to be left in peace and i can live and i can like just like dropped the whole thing
in other words i can be liberated from my job because i'm don't have a preference for it
and i can accept that they don't want me to do any liberation work at this time leave me alone granddaddy
what
emphasis
several eight your question rule related it it doesn't answer is that emulates yeah
so anyway i don't really prefer buddha
really we had a lie detector right
you like the science if we had i just happen to have a lie detector on me
and what it's doing right now it is as giggling
and that means that i'm joined the truth
so i don't prefer buddha and and miners this is my understanding is i do not prefer buddha i know some other people do but i don't and part of the reason i don't is because i understood my understanding is buddha doesn't prefer buddha
buddhism prefer buddha over us
buddha loves us but not looking down on us love but intimate love where there's no way for put it to be preferred over us so it's no buddha but us to i prefer sentient beings
you know if you forced me
to choose between to prefer sentient beings are boot as one of the other it will be tough if i have before forest forest i might just out of stubbornness prefer sentient beings but i'd actually don't prefer sentient beings
i want to love them i want to be compassionate practice compassion with them
but that doesn't mean i prefer them
and i want to honor buddha and pulled and and praise buddha
who doesn't prefer buddha over central banks but it's totally devoted to them and is their liberation and protection
so
and this involves studying such beings and studying buddha
and
it's different it's like is a different study but it's i i would like not to have one get ahead way ahead of the other so don't just always study sentient beings and never studied buddha or vice versa
and also be be questioning about him and my studying sentient beings too much my and my studying comic conscience to merchant without also looking at pitches about how to study and questioning homesteading and telling people arms so you know it's it's a con ongoing work of art rate
but i really don't prefer buddha i don't prefer them over christianity or vice versa
i like be answered you mock
susan and and uk
see like commission dog and earlier guess i've never heard one center yeah that was in that great
yeah
when you first through this picture house
to study buddhism is to study the herself yeah
and to study itself an infinite ways and millions of ways and never ends but we have the joy of study
yeah
we're forgetting could be also be understood as when you deeply study it you can get a hold of it you can find it it's on grass or you realize it's ungraspable because it is nothing other than these phenomena and we don't really think these phenomena ourself and it it has no end
dependent existence but with but we can think it does and then it's a it's a great bossy thing
but it's not he's another fragile beautiful the pentateuch or arising
the whole universe is conjured up is is going to go in concert creates to sell mobile by one moment it's a wonderful thing to be studied
an end to not attached you want to study it
i am i am i thinking
little thinking how such that santa for know for now get super lucky
we're talking about
because whatever so well the historical buddha
people some people say the historical buddha certainly before awakening had a really big ego
and a number of buddha's disciples had really big egos but they studied them and became free of them now
in incarnated human being shocking mooney that person till he he still used to words like abused conventionally he still use the word i or my he did that
did he actually still have that sense any his consciousness i think quite likely he may have still been there or it may not have been there anymore
but he used it so i can talk to people
but some part of buddha does not have self at all
does not have does not have a on record does not have the unconscious cognition process doesn't it doesn't have that it doesn't because the three minds at a certain point in the development of buddha there's just wisdom period there's no no additional facilities
and this this this consciousness uses the this award this wisdom uses other beings consciousness to conjure up ideas of self that's the true body of water but the transformation of body a buddha takes on
things like in ego in order to show people how to work with it

it may sound like that does it also sound like sentient beings are saying it than yourself
when your language
yeah and i'm just think do you think that sounds like that the sentient beings everything
he said one of the figure but sentient beings that that this sentient beings that are there are things k they don't exist independently and neither does the buddha
so buddha can appear as a thing and sentient beings going appearances and he's a one
but were study we realize they aren't independently existing things they are dependably core reason things and there and that's so wonderful that than that that's what the buddha discovered the these things are dependent car rising they're not independent entities so buddha isn't that can send your
things out that so they're on there and that way they're on a par buddhism a pinnacle arising to
who doesn't have an uncle arising and was too dependent arising a buddhas bodhisattvas are the dependent arising and put us all beings are dependent arising a british

no no i'm using consciousness for the type of awareness which has a self
i don't have high that type of awareness that doesn't have a self is the unconscious cognitive process
and wisdom wisdom doesn't have a self and the unconscious cognitive process which is doing most of the work of our cognitive life which is most of what our nervous system is operating it doesn't have a self then there's nobody there is no nobody thing and this is this is my cognitive regulate
one of the heartbeat this is my assessment of the environment
doesn't it all that's going on but there's nobody there owning it or disowning it and yeah and there's there's fear there but it's not but i'm afraid it just fear of these strange things that are all around we don't know if you know if all that kind of thing going on this vigilance there's
fear there's cruelty there's ill will there's violence to kindness is compassion all that stuff in there
but nobody's there that's in them that and that's a big rich part of our life and that and that gifts that dependently cook contributes to the arising of consciousness
consciousness does have a sense of salt take away the sense of self it's not consciousness anymore
it would be and would be unconscious
can we just see which kind of like flop back into consciousness and to unconscious which it does like i say when you're in dreamless sleep the consciousness just sort of melt into the unconscious
and the the equipment for giving rise to another moment of consciousness is there and can be used when appropriate
and sometimes the unconscious says this person will get a better night's sleep if we just give turn to consciousness off
deeper sleep and then it says i think we should wait this person ups of wakes him up and then comes herself
so i guess the
the a consciousness is manifest and lighting and and when it's late this laden and unconscious and sometimes like to say we in dementia it's late and but it cart very hard to revive it
but ordinarily
it gets revived every morning even i even after it becomes latent and some nights it's isn't is manifesto all night in dreams
it never it never takes a rest mass nice restful but you know that happens even though the person's sleep and they're getting some rest they're basically conscious all night
but other times the consciousness candlelight just court resolves itself into a do of the unconscious that's master

yes most most in terms of our body in terms of our nervous system most awareness is unconscious
again if you give you look at the neurological activity that upholds a moment of consciousness i've heard like this eleven events in a very short period of time and the unconscious is forty million
vastly more going on unconsciously unconsciously but conscious is very important because consciousness can do so can do things that unconscious can the unconscious cannot do math problems
it cannot you cannot ask certain questions it cannot make breakthroughs the way consciousness can so consciousness is very useful for examining and questioning
even though the unconscious could answer the question much faster than the consciousness
it's often biased by its history the unconscious the conscious can also be biased but the conscious can notice the bias and ticket into account and and do something that requires more work but as more accurate
how does different kinds of mental illness fit into this picture how to how does mental illness put filling the picture houses schizophrenia how does that fit into this picture consciousness right south watches
oh we have am
we have an unconscious process which give rise to consciousness that
misinterprets what's going on so that sense every mental every state of consciousness is at least neurotic
so normally the afflicted consciousness arises is neurotic isn't mentally ill
because if we could say gets here for afflictions accompany self but because to say for illnesses these are illnesses these are
il their they're suffering so normal carmen consciousness is mental illness
what about psychosis psychosis i will say
somehow the the the comic cut the
the cognitive unconscious gives rise to a mine were there are except unusually excessive boundaries and well into and and unreal very rigid
patterns so that the person can't interact with the neurotics anymore
this is the neurotics send the person to have sex psychotherapy or take medication
because he he's more he's more has gotten mental problems that they don't have to the same extent one i've never gregory bateson had to go via theory and he also said he defined schedule schizophrenia
the the person
cakes what is intended as a metaphor literally and takes literal things as metaphors
that's it that's the pattern and arises in their consciousness
and they do that he his theory was in some people feel he should have got more credit for this theory is that in certain
families the parents
sure the child one thing and tell them that it's another
and that type of presentation like for example a mother who really feels perhaps sexual affection for a child acts very coldly because she she feels that not appropriate to have those feelings that are she feels so she so she tells the child
so i don't have these feelings but to child feels them
or the mother hates the child and his have become a homicidal thoughts that she says i love you that your the most dear thing in the world to be and the child sees the she she's angry and she sang i'm not angry
that makes the disturbs their their consciousness of such a way that that it transforms her unconscious and they mission the they misinterpret the world in ways that are a kind of like this especially like inverted and and painful and troublesome so that would be a possible story
but the genesis of psychosis has somewhat special
also the the bodies of some people give rise to cognitive processes which are conducive to more than most to depression
or anxiety
or schizophrenia
and so these processes and are unharmed in the body and in the unconscious and they tend to contribute to the production of certain special varieties of mental illness
but pretty much excuse me i'm very simple minded all of these illnesses are calling for compassion and compassion
in all his varieties will observe
an experiment with the situation
and work at work and tell the person is protected and liberated
like another story which i often tell us this wonderful
wounded healer named milton erickson
and he he he worked in new mexico i think and an arizona and he was called into the i think the state mental institution and las vegas nevada las vegas new mexico
and he went there and now regularly but one time it went they brought a patient to him who thought he was jesus and
he and he wouldn't talk to anybody staff or otherwise unless they would acknowledge that he was jesus so of course almost no one would do that so it wasn't talking to anybody
your actions madam and
you know compassionately interacted with them and that he and then he an enemy he thought oh i heard you're a carpenter
so he got this this experiment he observed the gun and did this experiment saying oh and he could he could he could acknowledge that guy was a carpenter he honestly couldn't say i understand your carpenter and the guys who are yeah am
because jesus is a carpenter right he didn't say i understand your jesus
to understand your carpenter and and then he said would you build me some bookshelves
and the guy said sure and he built bookshelves and then he could start to relate to people as a carpenter he still thought he was jesus but he couldn't relate to him as a human beings because he didn't require that they acknowledge his divinity which he was required before which is not very workable with
most people
so the milner actually could kind of acknowledge him
but honestly only as a carpenter and that was enough to reach in and touch his consciousness with compassion and do that experiment and find things could start moving them he wasn't so rigidly hung up on his ideas but probably still had them
we can and that's a challenging situation he had probably for the rest of his wife
but week we we can we can find a piece with our karmic current karmic setup if someone teaches us how to make how to how to be kind to it and find peace with it so here's an extreme case but this
this compassionate person
found a way to real to make contact with another hail mary right
he got in there and said he could find a way to relate we have to find ways to relate
and in in this case i talked about the cnn doctor they said did you get to him
they didn't ask him did he get to you but and i would say and the milton erickson store
jesus got to milton and then melton could get to jesus he let him get to him oh you're a carpenter and then based on that he could give he could turn around and related to him so i of think the howard like they say if two people don't speak the same language the more intelligent want you to learn the other
persons language
so you know i speak english and i'm more intelligent than us and you should learn english is the british were and the imperial age but no we should learn the other person's language and i also i remember when artesia i heard i think was
tisha when he went to bed the the king of tibet said you know thanks for coming to tell me about buddhism and that will tell me about your religion
so again this is like the teacher needs to show how to be a student
so that the the healer needs to show how to be a student of the illness and start helping us that the person has a particular form of illness show them how to study
and there's so many different types of illness
but there's ten million times and dog and nourished and them
but he's here the joy of faith that study that observation and experimentation with phenomena in the state of stillness and silence was going to open up the doors of wisdom
kurt
this
i reflected on my own experience with consciousness and
feels like to me sounds it fascinates me is there is like this just constance
calling energy
yeah seems to just be
who am so i find myself you know being conscious so
so why considering
it's just kind of his consciousness such thank you thank you for watching it
but there's
this witness
no that's watching
and
i guess i'm asking what
of consciousness is this witness looking
well it's i would say for starters i suggest that consciousness is the awareness and consciousness that that's a job of consciousness same same
that but but but it doesn't mean that the other the parts the consciousness is aware of all the contents of the part of the conscious of the oldest energy so the consciousness is is is a tall impact of all this energetic activity enclosed in the consciousness
and it's an enclosed awareness and it's the awareness of this whole universe small universe called consciousness so say consciousness is the word that we use for that awareness
but it doesn't mean that all the parts don't share the awareness cause the if they're not independent of the wariness because the consciousness arises with and of these things so to some extent they're also witnessing
but the overall witnessing
if we call that consciousness and the individual with the things are the individual dharmas like greed is a kind of witness hatred is a kind of witness but the overall impact of all these phenomena and and also the the overall pattern of thinking the karma that's registered
on the consciousness that would be one thing to check out and i've been checking it out and i still i feel it has to my understanding
so the witnesses isn't over here the witnesses this whole situation is is is the witnesses the consciousness
and is contents
which which again if not more important to them because in it comes with them and they're not more important that it because they come with them they're born together there are equal existential
status they create each other nothing's in charge of anything in the field including all these ideas of who's in charge and we do have sometimes ideas of who's in charge right you've seen some of them well those are just the butchered delusions those your afflictions if you believe him but
if you just hear them most silly silly ideas then they're not so harmful thirty put are risky or their day there are tempting to fall for because they also have subtitles which say this is true and are cannot pay you if you believe me
and they will pay you if you believe him but they're not to be believed there to be listened to and witnessed with compassion
and then if we can do it with them we can do it with the way other people appear to us
you're listening refined is the more that i pay attention all of this seems the or unconsciousness you know kind of becomes conscious
in a way i think that's true that that that there's some parts of our cars on conscious which may feel unsafe if they feel like appearing in consciousness would be disastrous to them so something's are hiding out because they feel like if they if they were allowed to surface they would be treated unkindly
but if we treat you know if i treat their very kindly you know maybe ten of will dare to show me herself
but if i'm not kind of bearish she's to share a lot going to show 'em who i am because look what he did to bury so if we if what cause everything that comes up here
in the conscious is coming up is is based on the unconscious
and excuse me it's everything that comes up is based on the unconscious but some things that have come up are coming from wisdom to wisdom comes in there too
and sometimes wisdom says i am going in there because every time when i was unconscious things come up there they could treated cruelly and i do not want my my my dear dharma teacher to be treated curly that wouldn't be good it's not because i'm trying to prevent damage but i don't want this person to get it when this comes i want them to receive it were
well and
if if the wisdom feels like we're receiving other phenomena well every it feels itself so
just the way just happen to have written here when i'm talking about
that if you're like this to the stuff at your consciousness then the buddha or reveal your wisdom mind to you
and this is from the lotus sutra
and the britain the lotus sutra chapter sixteen the buddha says i'm always with you but i'm not going to reveal myself to you until you're ready
when you're ready i'm gonna show you that i've always been here that i'm here now can i always have been but you have to do this work before i before i'm and come out of hiding or take the veil away and this says
harmonious
no it says flexible you know relaxed open harmonious upright and honest if you're that way with these with the stuff and consciousness
unconscious stuff or come but also put a wisdom will come but it won't it'll it'll be hidden in a way until you until you're ready for it and some extent the unconscious will be that way to so sometimes part of the preparation is used to huge you practice this with your conscious material
and the gift is you get unconscious challenge has come up i'm sure to the unconscious to give you test to see if you'll be nice to them to and if you're kind to them than the wisdom comes
i guess i always think it's a story of the miller who said his daughter could spin straw into gold so she spin straw into gold in her award is she gets another room with more straw to spin into gold it's kind of like that when you're kind to when you're kind to beings your reward is more beings com for your
kindness
if you're not kind people do not and they're not going to give you more chances they're not going to fuse you're more vulnerable beings if they see it don't take care of them but if you take care of the sale looks she took care of that list of the sense more vulnerable rigs because she knows how to take care of them and by in that way we get ready to receive the big
the big visitor buddha's wisdom
and we have to do a lot of that before we're ready to really open to this wonderful
buddhist wisdom which is right there waiting for of us when ready
and then i said i had written
a curse she's son wrote this
marie
and judy
and leon

after

yeah it almost sounds like that
get hurt
i feel uneasy about
another picture of it which i mentioned in that book they're turning in the whale which talks about this material but i don't recommend it it's really hard books don't read it
but anyway in that book i think i quoted dh lawrence and he said this is what i know about the
conscious self it's like a clearing in the middle of a dark forest so it's more like it's more like the dark forest of unconscious is surrounding our consciousness and this a clearing and then overhears in the millions there's infinite clearings in the dark forest which is unlimited
and each of our consciousness as a little clearing where we can see stuff that we can see in the forest and wisdom is understanding this whole relationship it's it's it's not above or below it is just it's just to understanding of how all these different clearings are related to each other and
how all of the the forest is is is feeding and giving and taking with the consciousness that's that's another image so it's not it's not levels it's more like
it's it's more like damn that can get to really nice
what
he
do you say feed
well i would say of wisdom again this this wisdom is also compassion compassion you could say
he can say compassion supports and loves the unconscious of wisdom allows it wisdom is devoted to it but it is more the understanding of it it's just a correct understanding of the unconscious and conscious and how they relate to each other so wisdom has told us about this relationship wisdom has told
us about the consciousness
oh and buddha has told us but it is the understanding of of this unconscious conscious interaction that that's what good is
so in a way the life of the unconscious is simultaneous with the life of wisdom so they kind of and the unconscious and conscious they're they're what they're what the there was the contents of wisdom
and not there another contents but there there was a contents at peace and harmony with each other
judy

last year

i to
ah i see the steady himself as what allows staff to be
les les
and that then look set the national arise a young conscious enter the wisdom comes through a nice and so what waiting a is so my focus has been on ah
stay cells that sell
can be less can that they can be less packaging
constriction such that is very simplistic terms successfully are consciously come to visit as opposed to what i to stay which was wizards a
they can take the island of our to i started you as as
our wisdom consciousness always be
being available and that it's my instructions it's my filters i
ah situations that are key that presented well i think what you just said is true but it's not one side is like that the other side is also saying you're not ready for me
like if somebody goes to see a psychiatrist are doctor to who's got addiction problems with the person you're not ready for this you don't really realize how much you need this so come back when you when you're more sincere so it's true two ways it's because of my constrictions that i'm not ready but also on the other side the other side saying
you're not ready for this come back when your readings it's both time it's not just want one
it is it's very beautiful per that past whereas other it was like
we're we love you as we will be tired of it
see my movie us well we're here to the movies come from
and that's where the movies come from the scottish discuss this drama and you said less but i kind of feel like you mean less substantial not not unless but just less stuck less rigid less substantial and it's it is another way to say it is
it's not really less is that you wake up to that it is less substantial it already is and you start to and you study you realize oh it's not as substantial as i thought but it isn't that you that your study makes it less substantial it's a study helps picture blinders off and you see all it's not
yeah we like mega my grandson says to me
what's your favorite animal when he was little and i said humans
and then he said
more humans are animals and so on
and then he asked me again word your favorite animal i say here my space's humans are not animals
there's a years he asked me and i say humans and he starts to open to that you know he's able to be a little bit more flexible and open the possibility and also maybe talk to his mother
yeah they are and also my
his little sister
i said to her little sister i said referring to her mother i said how much who were talking about are so she's my daughter and granddaughter says she's not your daughter she's my mother
i said all
but you know little by little she realized her mother is your mother but her mother also is somebody's daughter and somebody's wife and somebody else's mother but when we were little with what are we really substantiate stuff
various very very stringently and so by our compassionate parents can gradually help us open up to the things are so fixed and substantial as we thought
now which is good leon
he says
said
much prefer doing here
is that
do we leave
you remind me
really don't know why
myself is
something that like consciousness not vera and to still not fully aware of and that
i can read each other i didn't understand that
it will relieve pain
lisa my style accident very viable way i should count on
to respond to certain events in the world that you can always had i myself made me do about because that's to myself because i couldn't believe my story that is a
oh come now i have a chance to become sunday
more the pipe activists yes when he become a more beneficial event in the universe
and one thing ice i were sort of
quick like to give your feedback on and that is that i don't say that you should practice buddhism
i'd say you should
i don't even say you should want to
but i want to and i want you to want to and i yeah
and i i don't want you to think you should i want you to want
and even if you shouldn't i want you to want
yeah so i'm not telling you should be a buddha i'm just telling you what that i want you to be and a buddha want you to be but buddhism think it should be and but it doesn't prefer for you to be buddha
right that's what i'm saying
and i know neither but i still want shift to be
that would be good to have fifty buddha's here but i don't prefer that
this this is great this is great and i also have wishes
and i wish you have a wonderful dinner last night was good i hope to next good do thank you so much

so we'll start again at seven and was sitting quietly
with our mental illness
that