They're called the singing detective. We could have one called the singing ex. Each person or maybe groups of people. Some people might want to work together with somebody. There's a lot of possibility if I get together and see what... Like, for example, myself, if you give me a writing project, it'll probably, you know, might get postponed. But... In fact, when there's certain supporting factors, it seems to not just get postponed, but it happens somehow. Giving talks, I give talks. They don't seem to get postponed, because there's a time for them to happen, and people show up, and they happen. But then you go up in the book, and reading, and then into writing.

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If I'm involved, it's very, very slow, I notice. But talks happen quite often. So there's a lot of material, but if other people are working with me, I notice then I can somehow edit and rewrite and so on with other people. So some people work together better than alone. So some people like that might want to work in a group. Anyway, it's another dimension of possibly working with teaching and making something, creating something together that might be going off further than that, but probably it would because probably issues could be at least circulated among the resident community if it didn't get published in a wider circle.

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Last week we were talking about case 73, and we were talking about the verse towards the end of the class. The verse goes, the pure household has no neighbors for long years, staying in, sweeping, not admitting any dust. And then where the light turns, tilts the moon, remaining at dawn.

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And then Cleary has like a colon there. When the forms of the hexagram are distinguished, then are established Dawn and spring. Another translation is, as winter solstice passes, yin rises to the east, northeast. as winter solstice passes, yin rises to the east-southeast. So, what's this poem about, by the way?

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What's it about? Do you want me You don't have to really know what it's about, but what might it be about? Pardon? It's about practice. It's about practice. It might be, yeah. What else might it be about? It might be about transcending holiness. Holiness. Is practice, by the way, about transcending holiness? Is that what practice is about? It's about waking up in the middle of it. Pardon? It's about waking up in the middle of it. What are the its? You have two its there. It's about waking up in the middle of it. Are they the same it? Yeah, okay.

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Is practice about transcending holiness or about realizing holiness? Or about realizing holiness and transcending holiness? I like that order. You do? Yeah, I like that last one. Isn't that transcending holiness? Huh? Is it? Well, is it or isn't it? Is it transcending holiness, or is it being stuck in holiness? Pardon? Ah, that's the problem. So, for long years, staying in sweeping, not admitting any dust. What's the case about? It's about practice. It's about transcending holiness.

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It's about what else? It's about filial duty, yeah. And what's filial duty about? Honoring your ancestors. Is that what this class is about? Is this class about filial duty? Is it the duty of disciples of Buddha to honor their ancestors? Is that kind of like a duty? Or is it just something that we do even though it's not a duty? It's a privilege. Isn't it a privilege to honor your ancestors? Yes. What's the Japanese thing? Was it a Buddhist thing before the Japanese thing? Well, in a simple way, look at the relationship between Ananda and the Buddha.

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Did Ananda honor his ancestor? Look at the relationship between Mahakasyapa and the Buddha, or between Shariputra, Actually, look at the relationship between Shariputra and Mahamadgalyana. Mahamadgalyana and Shariputra were the Buddha's chief disciples. But they died before the Buddha. They didn't want to be around for the funeral. So when the Buddha died, actually, he still had lots of great disciples, but then, in some sense, his chief disciples were like Ananda and Mahakasyapani's people. But his two chief disciples before that were Shariputra and Mahamadhyayana. And Mahamadhyayana and Shariputra are interesting.

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The Buddha said that one was like... One was like the mother and the other one was like the nurse. I think he had Mahamadgalyana introduce the monks to the basic teachings and then Shri Pujya taught them the advanced teachings. But these two monks were not the early students of the Buddha. The Buddha had early students, actually early students who became arhats. Do you know that? Arhats. He had like five students in his early part of his teaching. And in the first teaching, the Turning the Dharma Wheel, in that teaching, one of the five attained holiness.

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saintliness at the end of that talk. He didn't attain full holiness, he just got stream entry. He actually understood selflessness at the first level, at the end of the Buddha's first sermon. And then the Buddha worked on him for a little longer, and then he attained arhatship. Within two weeks, all five of the people that were at his first talk became arhats. No, all five of them became stream-enterers or attained the first level of holiness. Then he taught them another sutra on selflessness, and then within three weeks all of them attained arhatship. Did you know this? This is like a you know, kind of standard Buddhist history. It says a number of scriptures tell the story of what happened there, what the Buddha taught, when, and the effect it had on the early disciples.

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So then quite a while later, after he had a number of disciples, some of whom were fully realized wise saints, Shariputra and Mahamangaliana show up in this established community with quite a few saints in it. And when he sees them, he says, oh, here come my chief disciples. And the other monks say, well, that's strange. We've been here all these years, and some of us are quite developed. How come these newcomers have now been said to be the chief disciples? And the Buddha explained that these people had studied with the Buddha and been students of the Buddha, and actually the Buddha had been students of them in a number of previous lifetimes. And in one particular lifetime, the Buddha gave this long discourse, and during that discourse, I think it was Shariputra, held an umbrella over him and or fanned him,

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pan that flies away during this week-long discourse. And afterwards, the Buddha said, thanks. Is there anything I can do for you? And he said, yeah, when you become a Buddha, let me serve you as chief disciple. So when he became Buddha, Shri Buddha shows up, says, oh, now it's time for him to do it. And so they got this promotion because of their long service in previous lives. This is something about honoring the ancestors in the early part of Buddhism. Now in Chinese culture there was honoring ancestors aside from Buddhism. So when Buddhism came, it plugged into that ancestor worship scenario of Chinese culture. So part of Chinese culture is that everybody, including the emperor, pays deference to somebody. Even the emperor of China bowed down to somebody on regular occasions.

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bowed down to the ancestors. So the model of deference and respect and worship of the ancestors was demonstrated from the emperor down. When Buddhism came into that, what Buddhism venerated was something different from the parents, not necessarily different, but even more important than, in some sense, honoring your parents, or equally important to honor your parents was honoring this lineage, this non-Chinese lineage. So in this class, in some sense, we honor a non-American lineage, or even a non-German or non-European lineage, this Chinese lineage. In this class, we don't so much honor the Japanese lineage, because we haven't got to the Japanese lineage in this book. But part of what this case is about is honoring ancestors. And for me... one of the main advantages, opportunities in honoring ancestors is that in the process of honoring them, maybe we can learn how they honored each other.

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How did the teacher honor the student? How did the student honor the teacher? How did they feel about each other? And we have these words, but I think it's, to me it's also, I'd like to use these words as opportunities to meditate and imagine. Lee, why don't you stand up? I can't, I wasn't actually going to sleep. What? Oh, you weren't at that moment, okay. Well, first of all, hold your breath, okay? That's long enough. Is it okay if I open my eyes for you? So this poem, this case, for me, part of ancestor worship or honoring the ancestors is

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to help me think about, imagine what kind of relationship these people had. What kind of relationship is there when you talk like this and write poems like this? And as I mentioned last week, maybe this story never really happened the way it happened, the way that they tell it is a way that they maybe felt was very helpful for them at the time of writing it and succeeding generation to attune themselves or, you know, attune themselves in some sense to themselves but to that in themselves which is looking for the true relationship with the Buddha. So with that in mind, again, it says a pure household.

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And again, another translation of that would be a household of honor. A household of honor. And... Many years of sweeping the gates and not letting in dust. Now what's this business about? What's this business about? The light turns, tilts, the moon remaining at dawn. What is that about? And then this business about the hexagrams are distinguished. Then are established dawn and spring. Or as I said before, the winter solstice passes and yin rises in the east, southeast. What's yin rising?

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Is yin the moon? Yes. The whole thing is about transformation in this context. It's a transformation of energy. Transformation. But at winter solstice, at winter solstice, does the moon rise in the east-northeast? East-northeast, yeah. Does it rise east-northeast at the winter solstice? and over, as winter progresses, the moon moves to the north, doesn't it? It's both the sun and the moon. Well, the moon, at the summer solstice, the moon rises in the northwest, I mean in the northeast, right?

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Yeah. In the summer solstice, the moon rises in the northeast, right? Maybe opposite in China. It might be opposite. In the southern hemisphere, it might be opposite. But China is almost entirely in the northern hemisphere, right? So the sun rises in the northwest at the winter solstice, at the summer solstice. Northeast. Northeast. So it rises in the east, but the northeast at the summer solstice. Now, at the summer... At the equinox, does the sun rise in the east? And at the solstice, does the sun rise in the southeast? Does it? I think it does. I mean, that's what it seems like, right? Because it's riding lower in the sky, right?

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So let's see. Well, this is sort of east like that. So in the summer, the sun rises like that, so it's higher in the sky. In the winter, it rises over here, so it's lower in the sky, right? So it rises over here. It's always in the south to us. being north of the equator, it's always in the south, but it's more in the south, tilted more in the south in the winter, right? But the moon, what does the moon do? In the solstice, where does the moon rise? This says it rises in the northeast, Whereas the sun's rising in the southeast at the solstice. So does the moon go like that? Is the moon higher in the sky in the winter?

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Is the sun lower in the sky in the winter? Anybody know? No, it's the same. It's the same? So they're both going like this? Winter, the moon's over there. And winter, the moon and the sun are both over there. And summer, the moon and the sun are both rising over there. Okay, so why is it saying that in the winter it's up in the north, north, north-northeast? Excuse me, east. Huh? I know, but it says in the Chinese it's east-northeast. Why did it say that, I wonder? I don't know. I thought about this. I didn't understand why they're saying this, what the point of this is. But if it's a metaphor for transformation, maybe that's what it's about. mirrors itself? When something mirrors itself? Well, yeah, it's possible, but it seems like what you have now is you have more the moon mirroring where the moon is.

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I think the moon's over here at the solstice, so they're saying it's over here. It's referring to where the moon would be at the summer solstice. So at winter solstice, there's some kind of reference, or ... So you could say that they're talking about the winter solstice, the moon's where it's supposed to be at the summer solstice. That's maybe what they're saying. So what is that, what's that about? What's this guy trying to tell us about, if that's what it means? And also it's saying that then are established dawn and spring, Well, dawn and spring being established is the same as this position of the moon. This position of the moon, the position of yin, is establishing dawn. That's part, you understand, right? It establishes dawn. And it establishes spring.

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Well, it establishes spring because it's the spring moon. Right after the winter solstice, spring starts. The days get longer. So spring's being established after the solstice. That makes sense. And so how does that relate to this? Having freshly fulfilled filial duty, then one meets the spring. I think everything outside of the circle of that pencil in the winter is higher in the sky. Everything what? Out of the solar system. Out of the solar system in the winter is higher in the sky towards the inside of the solar system in the summer as well. Whatever, they're opposite. And so when you see the moon,

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When you can see the moon, it's on the opposite side of the Earth from the sun, and it's doing the opposite of what the sun does. When one is high in the sky, one's low. Except when the moon is towards the sun, but then you can't see it. When the moon rises over there, over there, if it's in the east, if it's rising in the east, the sun's over in the west, right? So what's your point? What I was saying is what you were saying earlier, I think is right. about when one is high and one is low in the sky. I think it's switch. Because the ecliptic stand the same. The era is tilted. I shouldn't have said anything. What's the matter with saying what you said? What's the matter with it? Huh? I was five minutes too late. You were? So that's Central Vernon time.

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So is this a personal transformation, Stuart, or is this a relational transformation? Is this about filial piety, the transformation of filial piety? said it was relational. But I think so, too. I think so, too. I think that it's talking about very deep structural very deep structures in energetic relationships. And I think that there may be some way of construing this thing about the season, the relationship of the moonrise to the season. There may be a way of construing it sort of ordinary experience, but I think there's some chance that it's a kind of technical description of

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technical description of transformation of the hexagrams in I Ching. Yeah, right. So what's that telling us about our relationship? So look up above there, you know. Dung Shan says to Yung Ju, this is the story we started with last time, the great incorrigible kills his father and mother. Where is filial care? And Yung Ju says, for the first time, for the first time fulfills filial care. And then the commentary says, this is a man whose filial duty is fulfilled and falling down drunk. OK, now we all know what that means now. But then Dung Shan says, in the wild forest that meets the eyes, free through the years, And then the commentator says, Tian Tung is used to roaming there.

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Roaming where? In the wild forest that meets the eyes free through the years. And here's his verse. Okay? This is the verse celebrating the relationship of Dung Shan and Yun Ju And also Tien Tung, according to the commentator, Tien Tung roams in the place of this relationship between these people. Yeah. To me, these verses, the word there about celebration and about joy, but it comes from, you could say, medium reality. meeting things as they are. So I think freshly filled, fully included, you know, the suppression of having just met reality.

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And one needs to spread, you know, to need this feeling of meeting conditions and meeting them fully and being free, knowing they are, and it's a joy just that they are. There's a joy in things as they are, but also there's a joy in things that they are in the context of filial duty or filial piety. Right? So, what is that, folks? It's the fulfillment of them. It's the fulfillment of what? Filial duty. Okay. And what kind of relationship is the fulfillment of filial piety? What kind of relationship is that? What kind? Yeah, tell me about that relationship. Well, it's spring-like. Like, it's spring. It's moving away from negative energy into positive. The moon represents negative energy, does it not? I don't know.

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But is filial duty to move away from negative energy into positive? Is that how you... That's how I see spring. Spring as growing. It's like the coming of a new... Right. It's a growing, right? The days are getting longer. It's more light. There's more light, relatively speaking. But what kind of relationship brings on spring? The relationship that brings on spring is the filial duty. Fulfilled, right? Huh? Freedom brings on spring? So is filial duty freedom? Fulfilling that duty is freedom. Fulfilling that duty is freedom. So, there we are. It's also wild. It's wild.

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It's also natural. It's like the law. Spring is bound to come. Right. So, is that our filial duty, to be free? Yeah. In spring. Universal duty. Well, I don't know if it's free in spring. I don't know if it's free in spring or if it establishes spring. In some sense it sounds like when the filial duty is fulfilled, then there's spring, then there's life, then there's new life. Yeah? Yeah. So I've been thinking of the puzzle, the line about the moon, yin, rising in the east-northeast. And it says, as winter solstice passes. So maybe the implication of that is after the passage of the winter solstice, it is then that the rising of the moon moves into the position of the east-northeast, which is its position. When fully realizing that position, that is the spring. Realizing it in summer, the beginning of summer, the end of spring.

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Yeah, that's possible. And so is the drunkness and the singing crazily with your turban hanging down, ambling with tousled hair, who cares? What's that about? Is that a relationship of freedom with your parents? Yes. Do you have a relationship like that with your parents? Do you have a relationship like that with the ancestors? No. Not yet. Not yet. So ... And he does. Does he? Uh-oh! So he's done for.

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But how about you? I've got a long way to go. What's your thumb there? I'm hiding it. How will you proceed? You're not going to hide your thumb anymore, right? By killing them, right? Yeah. I still say transcending them. Yeah, but that's fine. How are you going to transcend them? First you have to get them, right? Well, I'm done with biting the wood. You're done biting the wood? Yeah. What does that mean? What does it mean? What do you mean by it, I mean? Well... You're the one who's done with it. What are you done with? I'm just, you know, not into confronting them.

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You're not into confronting the ancestors? Right. But you're going to meet them? Are you going to meet them? It's meeting them from a different level. Different from what? From biting the wood. And what is the new level or new way of meeting them? It's loving them. Not resisting them. That it's okay. Not trying to change them, even if they sing? Right. Let's fall in love. I can take it. You're not driving me away. Not done yet. I just wanted to say that this moon coming up in the place where it seems to be unexpected, completely unexpected, when you're just talking about parents, somehow for me it's like I have a child now who's becoming a parent.

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And the whole, you know, I'm not looking up towards parenthood, I'm not looking down. It's sort of a whole new way of looking at what parenting is because it's not just above me, it's also below me. And so it's not in the east or the west. I mean, it's not where it was before. It has a new whole dimension and a whole replacement. And, you know, in the middle of it, all I can do is look at the kind of parent I am and how parents aren't different from me. Right. I have the feeling that the poet wants to be able to say, then one meets the spring.

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I just hate getting that feeling in that this has been written so that they can say that. Would you say that again? When I read through this poem, I get the powerful feeling that the poet wanted to be able to say, then one meets the spring. You had the feeling the poet wanted to say, then one meets the spring? Wanted to create an environment where... Oh, you're saying that he had to say all that so he could say that one line? The purpose of the poem, that one line is the ultimate... I don't want to get into purposes of poems, but I have the feeling, because I don't believe there was a purpose. OK, so it sounded like that's what you're saying.

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I know. I was dancing close to that, but trying not to cross over the wire. But I just get this feeling that when we get there, then one meets the spring. The court is happy that that stage has arrived, that that can be said. It's a turning point. The poet's happy that this line was written? The poet may have even had this line in her back pocket. Could use it for a long time. And do you have a line in your back pocket that you haven't been able to use?

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What is it? Oh, good. Well, are you going to stay here for a little while? Yes. Okay. Is anybody else... Well, first of all, I'd like to point out that Erwan's here, aren't you? But you weren't here a while ago, were you? No. Did you have traffic problems? Legal problem. Legal problem. Is there some line you've been having in the back of your pocket that you've been waiting to say, but now's the time to say it? The first thing that comes into my mind is I'm in the lion's jaws. Pardon? You're in the lion's jaws. And also Sala came in. Where's Sala? Did she come and leave? Where is she? She's there.

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Did you have something that you've been waiting to say for a long time and now's the time to say it? You can tell Diana. Tell Diana and she can say it for you. Silence will not save you about it. Any other lines that some people have been waiting a long time to say, having in your back pocket, that have been waiting a long time to say? Now is a good night to say it. Yes, please stand up. Please stand up. Please come up here. Please come up here. I wasn't here last week. I had to leave. I felt I had to leave because I was coughing a lot.

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You can sit right here. Sit right here. Now, you can tell them you're lying that you've been waiting. Well... Oh, God! So I wasn't here last week. I left early. And the previous week I was sick. So I've been just doing this by myself. And I hear that what... Thank you for telling us by yourself. I hear that what I've understood is really different than what everybody else is saying. And... And so I'm going to tell you what I understand about it for myself. And that is, it's like for me, the pure household has no neighbors.

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It's like no separation. It isn't like you can only have neighbors. I can only have neighbors if I don't understand that there is no separation. I mean... Well, more even than that, it's like, how can there be a neighbor when we're all, I mean, everything is Buddha. There is no neighbor. And for long years, staying and sweeping, not admitting any dust, like just doing what's right, right here to do you know without all these concepts that come through my mind that stop me or like i can't say this because you'll know that i'm really think about this differently or feel about it differently and like that but just doing it just doing it is just the sweeping and then there's no dust like now that i'm saying it it's like all right so what and then

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You don't care? Well, I do if I think about it. Or if you look at me like that. But when I'm actually, when I really I'm just reading the verse. What verse are you reading? I'm reading the verse which says, Ambling with tousled hair, who cares? Yes. Do you have tousled hair? Well, yeah. It's like when I read this, I got more of a visual picture. It's spring. It's like filial duty is fulfilled because you've come up from the sea. There's all these conditions. you know, what's being expressed from all the conditions that starts from the seed, and then we spring forth, and then, you know, you see all of these flowers. They're like drunken expressions of God, right? And even some of them have this tousled hair and they get blown all over.

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And a lot of times I feel like I wish I was a bee because I want to go right in. I mean, everything is so alive and wonderful and fulfilled itself. So, and the stuff about the hexagram, what I understood is like there is no form. But when we start saying there's a hexagram, then we're naming, I mean, then we're making form. this I'm a little fuzzy for myself when the light turns tilts the moon remaining at dawn when the forms of the hexagrams are distinguished then are established dawn and spring like there wasn't dawn and spring before it's just the way it is we say it's dawn and we say it's spring as if there is a spring or a fall or a winter or anything um

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So it's then are established on in spring, period. So having freshly fulfilled filial duty, then one meets spring. You know what I mean? As we transform, as we transform. So in great peace, with no concerns, a man falling down drunk. you know, a bee just slipping right into a flower. Do you want to tell us? I had a few lines. Can you tell us what you wanted to hear? I did. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. Does anybody else have some lines that they've been holding in their back pocket for a while and dying to tell us?

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Or just want to tell us? Really? Okay, come on up. I'm working on, and I've had the last line for a really, really, really long time. It's actually part of a series of poems, so it's a big subject, a big topic, and sometimes I know what I want. This is the poem where, when I said the last line of the poem, everyone in the space would become immediately in line. And I wrote, and this is what the line is, but if you don't, because the melody, it can't have that effect. I don't know what I'm talking about. So I can tell you what the line is. The line is, played to duet. Played to duet.

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Yeah. The first line of the poem goes, I mean really, teaching children word for the sounds of animals make. except that I need it to be in the poem. One is that there's sound. And then there's language for them. And then there's another duet. And this is the one that I haven't gotten in the poem at all. And now it's hearing, and then inside that, a pendant hearing. That's the other one. So somehow, at the end of the poem, I want to say this line so that everyone knows that I mean something like, the mind and the world, that's what I'm doing.

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That's what I'm doing. And then it's the other one. That's what I'm doing. That's what I'm doing. Is it filial? Did he fulfill it? Yeah, I think so. But I want to say one other thing, which is sort of filial, which is that I'm trying to, I'm using the Basho, a quote from the Basho poem to try to get to the end of my poem. That's filial. I like to do things that would have the reader think I'm going one place and then suddenly I'm going another place.

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So I'd love to be able to start a poem off saying, like father, like God. I would like to be able to start a poem off. Some say, our father who? Some say, our father which? Art in heaven. I'd like to know what to do with the short poem I wrote for John when he let me use his room. Brevity, a room of cloud hall, being, be, gone. I'd like to know what to do. I played trumpet. My teacher's name was Mr. Coffee, and I could paste it on my mouthpiece when he handed the horn back to me. But that's not what this has to do with.

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Wearing the smell of trumpet oil pretending to know the entertainer. Dave, do you have some wine that you've been having in your back pocket for a long time that you'd like to tell us? Not for a long time. Would you come up and tell us? I think it'd be good if you sat in front of me. Thank you. I was with a friend a few weeks ago who just passed away from cancer. She was talking about there was a girlfriend who had a long relationship with him. She was talking about her relationship with her husband. She said that she was kind of into him.

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That said basically that the closer she got to death, her and her husband never argued anymore. Everything else falls away. Everything else falls away. Any other lines that are calling to be expressed? To bring on the spring? To express freedom and fulfill your duty to your ancestors? Ana? I feel pregnant, but it's not there. You feel pregnant, but it's not there? That was good. That's very good.

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Yes, could this come up? Please have a seat. Oh, let's see. This was a line which was posed, I think, in the form of a question, but I was never really able to finish it, but it feels like it kept leading me on somewhere. And also, truthfully, I think I suppressed it a little because it didn't feel what I would call kosher Buddhist. Do you think that would do it? I don't think so. But the line was just, what is the sweetness of the sweet? Oh, I'll take answers. Betsy, is there a line you'd like to, that wants to come out of you, that's been waiting to come out?

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I don't have a line, but I wanted to sit here for a second because I was terrified to do it. But I don't have a line. Fred, would you like to come up and say your line now? I couldn't refuse, but I'm not sure if I can accept. Lee, would you like to come up and tell us the line that you've already said? I don't think so. Would you please, anyway, even though you don't want to? I don't believe I have one of them.

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How about the filial duty? Is it fulfilled? Well, I don't know. Is it springtime for you? Always. Except when it isn't. Helen, do you have a line? No? Would you come up and not say one? Please sit down. I'm sorry, I have no line, and I've actually, this whole class, I've had basically no feeling or thoughts or interest in anything we've been discussing, so I've been sitting there just watching the interaction, and that's about it.

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Okay. Thank you. Anyone else like to fulfill their duty? Mia? I just wanted to apologize to anybody that I've ever hurt in this room. And thank you for your love. Yes, would you like to come up and fulfill your filial piety?

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I'm scared. In this black, starless night, he comes to me straight, unhesitatingly. What is that? His eyes are like diamonds. Is he blind? But he sees me clearly. He knows I'm here. He comes. I'm going to die.

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He's going to kill me. He stops. Suddenly... Recognition. Love. He... I want to shake his hand. and express what I feel. He takes out his hand to shake mine, and I notice that my robe is just like his. What is this? But mine is too big and new. And I can only shake his hand through the cloth.

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But enlightenment, joy of joys, he doesn't say a word. He just walks away. I wake up with a smile. John, how about you? Oh, that one is very hard to get out. And I love you, but I think it's just joy. Andy, would you come up and express the line?

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I'd like to say What is it when mourning clothes are not worn? When mourning clothes are not worn, actually, this is really a paraphrase for awakening with the ancestors. When mourning clothes are not worn, It means there is no death. Please consider this. Lisa.

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I want you to be me and me to be you. And I don't know how to get there. Will you help me? Ask him again. Thanks. Thank you. Bill. 16 years ago, time began.

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16 years ago today, my brother died. I still don't know what that means. That's the fastest thing that's ever happened to me. Eileen.

[67:33]

I hope you'll find this humorous, but one of my brother's best friends died at a rest stop Nobody I told the story to understood it. He died at a rest stop. So I hope we can all take a moment right now and remember the sweetness of Brian Vita, whose funeral is going to be tomorrow, who died of a stroke at 51 years old. Thank you. Razi?

[69:00]

Come here, Razi. Razi, come here. Come here, Rosie. Come here, girl. Come here. Good girl. What do you want to say? I love you. I love you. Liz. Come and establish spring. Fear has its... I feel them right now.

[70:17]

And I was thinking from over there, it feels fine actually to sit here, but to look at this relationship was really hard for me because I don't have this relationship with my father or within my family, it doesn't feel like this. And to look at this physical relationship looked to me like a family relationship that I think mostly I'm scared of and I don't think... Yeah, scared of. What are you scared of? I don't know. Yeah. Okay. Just be scared then. Yeah, and actually this isn't so scary. No. Thank you. I just want to say something.

[71:31]

Let's do this. I feel like I have to be scared. Stand up, please. If you're not going to come up here, at least stand up. I feel like I have to be scared of someone tonight. Then I understand the lack of it. It's very, the first time something is completely Stewart? Travis? I haven't done this before.

[72:43]

Actually, I had this, when I started to talk about this, it brought up a little thought I had. I had a, one of these, I was thinking about something, I said, hell if I know. Sorry. There you go. Okay. First, in some sort of a circumstance, I remember having the thought, hell if I know. And then the logical response to is, hell if you know. Thala. Thala. Would you come up, Salah? You can use sign language if you want to.

[73:47]

I'm just with the idea of that not saying it, that silence won't save your life or my life. Susan? One thing I want to say is I want to

[75:40]

I apologize, I guess. I feel like I'm always emptying out my pockets here. I get very excited about interacting. I can't stop the thrill of responding when I hear something in here from you or from you or from the ancestors. And so, um, I apologize if I, if it takes up too much space. I apologize. I also wanted to say that, um, Blanche said something yesterday in her lecture which just, this little light went on. She was just talking about something that Stephen Batchelor had said about acquisition being this way.

[76:47]

It's this way. And so the picture of wanting something, you can never get enough. It goes on forever, ever. And I've been looking at what I think love is to try to maybe deconstruct what my immediate ancestors taught me about what love is. And I think it's something that I can acquire. That's what I think. And that's the ground that maybe could be shifted. since I'm never going to get it. I think it's just joy. Yeah, I know. Well, that's, you know, my question is, can love just be? Can it just be? Or do I have to have it? Have it in here.

[77:53]

I have three lines. The work of great peace has no sign. The dawn takes shape from birdsong. This is where I draw the line. I just remembered that earlier today and last night I was going through all this poetry that I wrote when I was a teenager, like a big box of it.

[79:28]

So I just remembered one line, which is, in a way, this has been the finest of springs. Thank you. Well, I'm very nervous. My heart is thumping. It feels great. I can't say as I have a line of my own, but I have a line that I've heard once, and it's, how wonderful, everything is perfect just the way it is. And I also have a song. Raindrops keep falling on my head.

[80:33]

But that doesn't mean my eyes will soon be turning red. Crying's not for me. Because I'm never going to stop the rain by complaining. Because I'm free. Nothing's worrying me. We're going to miss a teacher. Jackie? Can I sit here? Please sit there. A line comes to mind that said

[81:35]

I loved him for himself, and he loved me for myself. Hear me? I was thinking I don't really know you this well. What the heck? I've been thinking of a lot of lines. The latest one was that I wanted to say to Cormac, the raindrops on your head are probably my tears.

[82:44]

Another line that came to me during Zazen was that I think maybe Zazen is the greatest act of faith that I know. And it's amazing to be surrounded by people that do it every day, or most days. And I want to tell you all that actually today was the first day that I sat satsang for almost a week. It wasn't because I lost my faith. I was just testing it a little bit.

[84:08]

But I knew that you had the cushions held down. So thank you. That wasn't so bad. Bert? Bert? All these smiling faces. I don't usually carry a line in my back pocket.

[85:15]

Only a handkerchief. So, what's my line? Diana? I was hoping you'd do something unpredictable.

[86:27]

No, cool. Come on. [...] I hoped he wouldn't remember my name so he couldn't call me. My line is, spring is the time of love. Anna?

[87:31]

Right now. Thank you. John? My life is mostly missing. Thank you for helping me notice. Mary? Well, never sat here before.

[89:02]

I've been thinking and thinking to come up with a line, but I don't have one. And I just want to take this opportunity and thank everybody here. come here and I don't know everybody in person, but I feel connected with every one of you. And I love you dearly. Thank you. Elena. That doesn't mean you won't empty your pockets anymore, does it?

[90:25]

If it's helpful. My line is that I don't know my parents at all, and that when I'm done, I won't know my parents. And the sun and the moon are flipped over. And that it's five minutes after nine, and I kept hoping that he would do this to everybody tonight. And thank you, Diana. And I'm so glad that you did. I want to get free.

[91:31]

Are you free now? Is it springtime? I don't know. You don't know? Just answer the question, please. Don't think about it. I don't care. There's a few other people who haven't spoken, but maybe some people want to go home. Is that right? Okay. All right. Oh, well, great. Renee. Renee.

[92:37]

This topic has been difficult for me because I don't have any living immediate family members anymore. And today I went to a huge religious event and again the topic was filial respect. And someone in the audience asked the question, How do you awaken your filial heart when you have no family? So I've been meditating on that line all day. And for me, I see the only alternative is to see everything as my family. Thank you. Lynn?

[93:56]

Well, I would really like to be falling. And it doesn't have to be falling down drunk, just falling and falling and falling and falling. And outside my door, where I sit on the doorstep and listen and watch, is a nest of birds, little birds who are getting bigger and bigger. And... I feel in my practice that I am always wanting to fly, always wanting to be fed, always wanting something more than is right here. And I'm trying to learn from these birds because when the mother comes, they are all excited But then I come out to see how they are, and they have taken a nap.

[95:17]

So they are just living as they need to to grow up. And I feel like that this is what I need to know, how to be in that nest and be patient So my line is, cheap, cheap. Reverend Neenah? It feels dangerous up here. The wild forest is everywhere.

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