Zen Meditation on Karma and Awakening - April 19th, 2022

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so last week we looked at the with me
the case
ah the ancients and story
the that grade teacher by john and the fox spirit
and am
we understand now that
you could stay great in great practice in green great practice
dice to go
where you could say in a person of great practice
there is not ignoring of
karmic cause and effect
in great practice in grey practice
there is compassionate attention to karmic consciousness
all bodies sought as have a comic consciousness
in the great practice of the body searches
there is compassionate
kind study of karmic consciousness
compassionate receiving of the teachings about karma and the teachings about karmic cause and effect
so i ask you over and over
i invite over and over
to to look within and see what
is the shape of consciousness now
every moment of consciousness as a shape and that shape has consequence
the shape of each of our consciousnesses
that shape is an activity
it's an activity
the consciousness doesn't do itself but the consciousness has activity every moment consciousness has activity and the activity of the consciousness each moment
is due to many causes and conditions
and of course one of the main causes in condition is is the lineage the stream or past consciousness is a past com but that's not all that mix our present karmic consciousness
all beings contribute to our present cosmic consciousness

and it's there in great practice to be observed
again everybody
has comic consciousness but not everybody
is attending to it
everybody's carmen consciousness moment by moment has consequence this moment of consciousness has consequence now this moment but of consciousness has consequences now this moment of conscious marx has consequences
and same for all of you and all living beings
the encouragement now is to encourage observing this gum my consciousness because unobserved cosmic consciousness has consequences which are not optimally
it is possible for karma a consciousness to arise and be wholesome without being attended to
it's possible
but attending into it
leads to see the dharma in it the truth in it and the dharma com my consciousness the way it works it is also called buddha
buddha is working with karmic consciousness in such a way as to protect an enlightened all beings
buddha attend to karmic consciousness great practice attends the karmic consciousness
attending to karmic consciousness is great practice of the borders
and this attending the comic consciousness is possible in each of our body and mind

so when there is observing of the carnatic consciousness
it can be done with the following teaching
patterns of consciousness have our benefit
self this consciousness wholesome patterns of conscious can benefit this consciousness and also benefit this unconsciousness and also benefit this body
but also a wholesome karmic consciousness benefits others to
an observing
the the consciousness
promotes the consciousness being wholesome
unwholesome cosmic consciousness
is not is not beneficial
unwholesome comment consciousness there is the possibility
have excuse the expression extra patient
or in other words there is the possibility of confession and repentance
it's possible to practice with wholesome consciousness
on wholesome consciousness and neutral consciousness now there was no matter what mind we have it is possible to observe it
if we observe it and it seems wholesome
we probably will we can't be sure that it's wholesome but if it seems to be a wholesome if it seems like it might be beneficial it's okay to be happy about that because it's a happy thing when consciousness it's a good thing when consciousness is wholesome
when it seems to be heading in the direction of
consciousness can be indeterminate it's more quality can not can be such that it's difficult even for a buddha to see that it's positive or negative that it's beneficial are not beneficial
still observing neutral states karmacally the or you could say morally neutral states of consciousness that don't seem to be necessarily beneficial or harmful
the the observation
is itself the buddha work which is beyond karma
and the observation of wholesome
karma is beyond and karma and the observation of unwholesome karma is beyond unwholesome karma
however a different types of com have different effects and wholesome karma has the effect of promoting the observation of all kinds of karma so it is still important to
see if in the mind in there is actually an element of the consciousness which witches to do all kinds of on wholesomeness
so one of the things one of the particular things that can be checked on in consciousness is whether there's a wish that consciousness be wholesome that consciousness be beneficial
and also
even if there is a wish and consciousness be beneficial
there might be other wishes
which which was it they undermine or even turn the consciousness being unwholesome even though there's a wish for wholesomeness the mind can be turned into unwholesome if they're stirton other wishes in it
the important thing is
to observe the consciousness
and so the training is
the somehow
become more and more consistent at studying every moment of consciousness are being mindful of what's there
a buddha is president with each moment of consciousness and mindful of what's there and there is delusion in karmic consciousness usually and the buddhist studies the delusion
with great compassion
and is not caught by the delusion with great compassion

so what comes to my mind now is one of our zen pawns called
in english precious mirror somebody
in not chinese is a bow jinx on my
in japanese is called hope goes on my
an in there
the as many instructions about how to study karmic consciousness so for example it says
if you're excited it becomes a pitfall
if you hesitate your lost in retrospective hesitation
so why we're observing
karmic consciousness
we also can learn to observe it without getting excited about it
the observation can be calm and not excited even about an unwholesome state
and also we can be present with it and not hesitate to be with it if and therefore won't regret
that we didn't practice with it
in a away
that there can be neither falling into
nor avoiding new not been caught not pushing away

welcome she up
thank you
what sonia

there is a sutra
call is it's a poly scripture
and it's called a grain of salt
and in that crusher the buddha says
that you know
if you take a grain of salt and that they happy they are pretty big grains of salt back in those days
a grain of salt i think was like a chunk of salt and you put it in a cup of water would they
water becomes salt and be undrinkable
the bullet asked
and the students says
yes it would be undrinkable
now if you took that grain of salt and put it into a lake
would the lake becomes salt and become undrinkable and the students says know it would not become undrinkable
and then genes justice way the buddha says if you take a small
a small on skillfulness

and you don't and you don't pay attention to it
and you don't confess it and you don't say you're sorry
then that small
on skillfulness can become huge

the mind which notice is it
and confesses to and is embarrassed by it and sorry about it it's like a big lake
and small chunk of salt is not going to make the lake water undrinkable similarly
in a mind that notices was going on a big mind that compassionately observed a big mind that the tends to come and consciousness like the buddha would
still a a small transgression may occur
but his noticed is confessed and as apologized for
and that's smart think
that's it pretty much just nothing more to it is just the
the the conclusion of the karma of that small transgression that small on skillfulness is that we notice it and say him or sir
but if we don't notice even a small thing then are mine is small too smart to pay attention not too small or to being paying attention to itself and be kind to itself and confess itself and say sorry if it's not a good man
my mind or not a good action not a good karma
and then
that's that's the consequence pretty much over
the result is is that we feel sorry with your sorrow which which the big mind feel sorrow over a small transgression but again if we don't pay attention to the a small transgression
then our mind is so small with that's more transgression can basically yeah be unworkable because what we call servir

another story about how to work with karma zen story is of
a teacher named grace on and a student named young sean
and gration says the young to assure all living beings just have karmic consciousness boundless and unclear with no fundamental to rely on how would you test this cosmic consciousness otherwise how would you test
whether the stench of being knew how to work with comic consciousness
yeah zhang said if i meet somebody i say hear you
if they turn their head
i say what is it
if the hesitate than i say
i'll send you a page of to have a karmic consciousness boundless and unclear with enough fundamental to rely on
so in that story
the student tells us teacher how he would test his own a consciousness or somebody else's
if something happens and you just respond
simply attractively by hello turn your head
you don't hesitate you don't get excited he's doing with you right there
you're observing your of consciousness
call responses call response at it
however if you hesitate you get caught

if you tried it if you try to
control what's happening
rather than is watching
as an act
in cause and effect
deep faith and cause and effect the head turns
deep faith and cause and effect no hesitation deal with it the faith and cause and effect not getting excited about it
but some things are you know potentially very exciting

but if review if there's deep faith and cause and effect we study the very potentially exciting things
and in that way of studying these exciting things or me i could say frightening things or horrible things

the conch business is protected and what we're observing is protected
this practice of buddhist of deep faith and cause and effect protects bags
like right now
i don't see anybody harming anybody
in this assembler
i don't see any disrespect or around kindness in this assembler
we're all vulnerable and can be unhurt
so how do we protect these things these vulnerable beings who are in this assembly
practice to boot away
and what is practicing the border way of protecting all innings
it's to observe
karmic cause and effect
watch again
i don't know how many times you will allow me to save this which again is
your present consciousness
and good faith fatal cause and effect studies
this consciousness and practices studying this consciousness and practices clarifying what this consciousness is while thinking each moment while speaking and while gesturing

i also thought today that the karma of the moment of consciousness is the forest
and all the different mental factors in the consciousness or the trees
so we study the trees but we all also
study the overall pattern of all the trees
in both individual trees and the whole pattern can be observed

ah i
i want to also tell you i think it's
too late to bring it up in detail tonight but i would like to share with you
an early buddhist teaching
which the buddha said is the direct path
two piece to freedom
which is mindfulness
of four different categories or to practice mindfulness within four frames
and the four frames are body the body frame
the feeling frame
the consciousness frame and the mental dharma frame or the objects in the objects of consciousness friend
so these are former different ways of studying karmic consciousness
and i i haven't mentioned that before but i have been talking to you bought it without telling you that
so it may be next week i couldn't bring up these for and show you how these four are four different frames or more for different lens with which week and look into the car with consciousness
for deferred
what gone with the were dumb for different levels of of
everything's different levels of of up grain or granular earnest are the consciousness

right though now i'm ready to open up
to on
your offerings about
deep faith and cause and effect how to ah
how to study
the field of delusion
and understand it and realize buddhahood
for the welfare of all beings


hello wrap
great assembly

i feel my heart pounding
i am
have can i've been contemplating hum
what is my motivation
and it seems that what arises is to be of service to be helpful
two am
be free and help others realize freedom from suffering
i have i'm with a great anxiety presently and have been for some time
her pen with it tenderly observed irving it
when i'm when it it's fully welcomed
i make have a glimpse
ah a reality that i don't ah
the right
i don't see myself as
if if that makes sense
so who am i think of myself one a

when it tends to cost of free
or see mean we
he had i've been observing when i welcome this
fear the anxiety the fear
a i mentioned
ah i see something different than what my smart light
i'm space
and and that's encouraging in my practice encourages you to continue to be three to respond to the anxiety in that way
yes you feel encouraged to continue that practice with the anxiety
and then when you were speaking about with small minds the grains that salt
i thought well maybe a questioning maybe i'm not
ah saying i'm sorry
as often as i could be so i aspire to do
to confess and and repent
my and skillfulness
so as to be a benefit
no and being kind to the anxiety
will promote you being aware
of the quality of your consciousness
and you could be anxiety with the wholesome state
or an unwholesome state
and if you take it home
i'm sorry go ahead there can be anxiety repulse in holes and a wholesome state of consciousness there can be anxiety in a neutral state of consciousness and there can be anxiety in an unwholesome state of consciousness
i'm taking care of the anxiety will help clarify which kind of consciousness you have
that will promote your your clarity about the the moral quality of your consciousness

i feel like a i want to speak more but i wrecked the i noticed that i
seem to reach this place where
i don't have more words and
i ten looking at how
am i practicing compassion with pet
am i being president with that may be kind to that
and i haven't noticed that
ah it's just practicing that compassion
ah just with what is now
it's there's like this struggle like i am
the the south wants so badly to ah
not allow
when when it arises to just be here now as as
as the things are
if there is clarity
yeah that makes sense
that will bring clarity to this ah this wished
that you think is the self wish but actually just a rubbish and be clear that that just took it as just a delusion
and then you can be kind to the new can
be kind of the it as the delusion
rather than be caught by a puppy
and it
the some anxiety and
clarity on
share the same space
well if there's clarity has no problem being with anxiety yeah but will not be clarity with the anxiety and less than as compassion towards the anxiety
the lack of compassion towards anxiety
interferes with
clarity about the anxiety
clarity comes with been kind to anything but in particular clarity comes with kindness
find accompaniment kind french to exiled
anxiety wants a companion
someone to listen
yeah someone through
study karma with
thank you

doing the river
you didn't in john
my motivation is questioning and i've been very pleased with your teachings of wisdom as the teachings and compassion as well them
paul teaches you presented with three forms in the common form and both was a second form which i took to be questioning and i've been trying to practice questioning on and understanding as you said that on the question he doesn't lead to clarity leads to confusion
and so i find that when i'm coming to clarity and my questions i confess i'm repent because i've fallen into the trap their a believing i've found the answer a phone clarity
when you hire when you when you come to clarity without questioning and clarity yes
so i'm out of confusion in as a tip off to me that i'm in trouble now
so i i see this sort of a a practice for me and in non grasping
on and in a sense learning as you often say to pivot
when i when i suddenly think i'm having clarity i tried to pivot look at it differently or with my elder this question is question that body get one clear just question of and if you think why i'm in trouble question i'm in trouble yes
so the challenge i'm facing now is i have this on a rising sense of the witness
and i am i
a pretty sure this is you know that the the pretty self coming alive again you know
if my mind as i'm questioning things there's there's this witness that's witnessing me doing this and i'm starting to identify with the witness mm it's a very slippery slope to feel that okay i gotta step back and be the witness ah
and i don't i really don't know how did i don't know how to comfort i don't know how to always acknowledge that are confessed and repented that woman i am i started feeling a little bit removed at times when i go into this witness mouth yeah i think it stands plague
although you said you really want to work on questioning it sounds like in this particular case you start questioning the witness what the witnesses yes and yeah and so i think ah then you so if i'm sorry i stopped questioning i thought i was i thought i was
the witness
hmm i'm i paused in my questioning so the questioning the witness is also questionable
yeah it's hard for me to their i mean there are times when
i'm involved in something and i see the karmic sort of on consciousness coming up and see the pattern and the to and i i watch it i don't try to stop it i i'm sure to witness seen as i go through it like oh here we go again here's the dance here's how it's going to turn out shirt off with does turn out that way
usually but then this witnessed as oh wonderful effect you're stepping back and observing and i it's just very hard to i don't have an unchallenged by that
there's a sense of attainment their that troubles me
and when i wish
for people to observe or could say witness when i i say observed if i want to encourage pupils to witness climate consciousness because i think that that is what the buddha does the buddha witnesses karma consciousness
okay but also the buddha questions the observation process questions the witness
and also the buddha really is not identifying with the witness
the buddha's identifying with
cause and effect
the buddha's identify with the process which
is questionable
always questionable the grief and the process ever solidifies question
so your suspicion your more are almost like uneasiness with design with the identify identifications occurring about things in the process that's a legitimate skepticism or question
and the questioning stops they say oh i confess up for questioning i stop i've i stopped questioning and i don't want to stop when i'm committed to it which is not to take up residence in the observing
because it's not a residential observer it's observing
it's not a residential
a resident witness witness her is witnessing the
but an unquestioned ah witnessing can turn into an unquestioning witnessed her
definitely when to help not doing a witnessing the self lives in the field of witnessing
itself doesn't own a witnessing and also but it does not a witnessing than the self as lip living in a field where the witness thing is not function
but if there is witnessing going on in the self isn't doing it but it's happening and the witnessing is just like has his activism thought here which is the witnessing is doing well it's got it then it would be great if there was a questioning of the oh yeah
is that so ah
is that so
wonderful a captain sarcastic purulia like is that song
oh one other person i went to ask you that you need an answer but i'll that are this is a wish i'm hoping that in this class you'll you'll reference the elia the storehouse and how this this this practice a question in my case plays into that karmic storehouse
house on coming for happy to do that and and i probably won't need to do it more than once
so i just said before that every moment of consciousness right now this moment of consciousness has consequence
and one of the most important consequences of this moment of consciousness
and this moment of consciousness is that simultaneously with this karma this moment the storehouse consciousness is transformed
which means also that the whole universe is transformed
because have consciousness in britain is embraced by
all other beings and it embraces all the bags
so my unconscious embodied awareness which is not what i call consciousness with this is called the storehouse conscious by think is really a storehouse mind it's unconscious embodied
it's cognitive embodied car mind and it's transformed by everything i think say and just
and then much as formed consciousness or that rhyme for mind is the support for the next cosmic consciousness
so if i remember
good faith and cause and effect that transforms my unconscious in my body and that transformed unconscious and body
tend to promote more remembering of
the faith and cause and effect
and everybody's included nut so it also stimulates other beings give up had a come up in their consciousness
partly in like we're not talking about it so you hear it an when you new here dust that your action right that moment so you hearing what i'm saying also transforms the squirrels consciousness a liar
iq that that's that's a teaching i can't hear enough oh gotcha

i start with ah
one question but then more question rises in my mind so i'm going to stick with their last ah piece that i heard you sing about transformation
my question is
is this transformation has said
a built-in intention in it
and is that intention ah
that the the intention of this consciousness transforms or not their mind but the transformation is not an intention is an effect of the intention so the karma is the intention and the effect of the car
emma is transforming my body an unconscious mind
and that transformed body and and an unconscious mind then support more consciousness is where there are intentions so the intentions to the karma and then the consequence of them is that it's transforms our unconscious are nervous system whereas then gives right snorts
action karma transformation of the body and mind which supports more karma that's why it's going to do good karma gazetted transforms a support for further good karma
with the transformation itself is not an is not an intention the intention is in the consciousness
so is there an intention in the conscious this
ah for liberation
that's my question is their intention and conscious than this for liberation the app is willing to go through these transformations i would say that there is an intention into your body and in your unconscious cognitive processes for liberation
and in some consciousnesses there is the intention for liberation but not in all consciousnesses
so like i mentioned last time this thought in consciousness to realize buddhahood in order to benefit all beings that intention is not in all living beings consciousness
but it's it fortunately it's in song and and and that's the seed of buddhahood that that that intention in consciousness so stop the question that came to my mind is that is it because ah
i'm just a maybe maybe because oh on awareness so that we're not aware the one that he does not seem to liberate who doesn't have a touch of liberation maybe they're not aware of their consorts have struggled
and why they're struggling from the first time from the why they're struggling okay so how we don't we're okay as some people's comic consciousness they're not over flu and love that some other people they are aware
and by studying karmic consciousness we will become more aware of how to work and where the struggles coming from and where the sticking or make sense may excellency and had study transforms a bases from more study

okay okay ring
i used to do up for while i did a practice that was encouraged by you because you love the words confession and repentance i i i asked you this good practice new cydia so i i did it for well under at is at the end of the day i would like to stick regents
god recall the things that i am that were unwholesome more that i regretted and you know kind of you know i'm sorry
i'm after a while i stopped doing that
it involved a process in my mind of judging though that was bad and it became a kind of laundry list of the bad things i had done and how i was how i ought to improve myself and i know you wouldn't advise me to think in that way
so on
yeah the be repentance i i'm sure many people have brought this up with you is is so laden with kind of stuff that it can be an obstacle rather than a help
but what did i have found him than artist say listen you can say
whenever you say
the only thing that seemed to be really
oh the helpful in what i was trying to do there is to whatever arises i think angela was saying this to whatever arises including something like all that bad whatever it is is to completely
without judgment
study it to use a word that i haven't yet found a problem with get it that you like tom to study it to study it but it or not the way i studied in academia but you know to really
study it by actually experiencing it as it is and if it includes a thought or as content contraction that says that was awful than study that that's your teaching so on
making a list of things that i did bad and repenting them it i have been found help helpful
doing it in the moment of feeling
harm that is helpful
what do you think sounds good
yeah i mean sounds good as is the you try you you didn't experiment and you thought i don't think this is health
that's good you did the experiment and then at the conclusion than you find something else that you currently think is pretty good and that sounds good to me too
what you are you are shaping another woman can gonna say that
in the previous example and in this current example i just pray that you do this practice without trying to in don't get anything
and if you do try to give some thing that i'm i would pray that you say oh i had really nice practice and then i tried to get something from it and i want to let go the trying to get part of it and just do it
that may slip back in nuts part of studying your current your consciousness is to knows i'm doing a practice it seems to be gone by well i feel encouraged can also i think i can get something from this practice oh and saw and i'm sorry about that i wanna go that part
thanks for that reminder yeah but he had sort of notice it and say i'm sorry to let go
dude where do you think about the inherent hazards of the word confession and repentance to get something well tim heald into them the i i don't think it's built in but i i think it's what he called was the word own
i forgot what the word is just anyway it it's an often associated with it but not building for me repentance it is related to run like tennis right but it ought to just basically means sorrow it means i'm sorry
and in these i'm sorry i like i apologize for i'm embarrassed and so i don't i don't need to use the word repentance but on
i'm sorry is fine too
but still if i confess and say i'm sorry i watch about to make you know to watch him looking at your question myself didn't i try to get something out of that
that's a that's the fundamental question and because i i believe that this practice is this practice protects beings
but i want to watch out to think twice a month and try to get the protection of beings what part i have to like watch out for that's part that's why we do a good practice for he stood up to watch ourselves as we do it
yeah great

oh dear i am i right help
well as
as you may have guessed who may know phone some past me his nerve bang with you you some pet stews
and in it you know it's in the moment and for me it's ah it's how am i questioning so i don't quite understand i don't not sure i'm questioning enough i mean that would be my know why confession so
so to speak
may i say something
sure i i just heard you say i'm not sure i question enough
did you say that i thought so i sat at her is just so being sure that your question enough should be questioned
i do not want to believe that i questioned enough
i want a question but i do not want to fall into the trap by question enough
k childhood
live with the question
am i questioning the right amount
if my questioning skills and watch out for i'm questioning enough
okay i looked under i wonder if i'm questioning enough that's fine i wonder well i wonder if is often the way i put anything like i wonder what this is a as i feel a brush or i feel a tightness and
it's very much a body practice body breath practice from me you know this because i ever a long as long yoga practice as i have a a a san sitting practice and they both continue our an amazingly good familiar a collage ah
and and so in in each moment i feel like well you know where's and all that well there's so many so many teacher instead of kung to i'm so grateful for through you you know relax with whatever comes the
dharma gate of he is enjoy and why trying to grab those are they just seem to arrive at fine but eminently and when they arrive question
my grabbing a grimy rock cannot possibly grab this great thing
well you know i mean it it what were amazed as me is that they arrive i mean that the things arrive and then they go away and then they arrive and another one go away and for me it's like being actualized by myriad things is the hugest blessing on
oh it doesn't matter what it could be the smallest thing little loop is a dust on the floor that i reached down for
or that i don't or it doesn't get matter but just being aware of you all of this moment of this is how this is how has this is this really the swag oh this is not going in the last either it just like the money
before done on and it's okay it's all by a big flow
i help
oh i just wanna let you know i'm so grateful for my long practiced through green gulch you many teachers and tas a horror and i'm so grateful i was opening i'm going on may fifth and good a time
talent to do this weekend with leslie and stephen harper that i've done twice before and
it the oak
could it be able to walk a mile much less six to the when caves again but
i'm taking a friend who has never been
graduations thank you

thank you everybody thank you read
i'm interested these days in
in consciousness in the formation of consciousness and some of that is because i take care of
women and in pregnancy
and i'm interested in
there's a kind of a yummy an idea of
have something called a complex
which i sort of understand as a constellation of
images and experiences that sort of operate in our unconsciousness and often a bomb
operate us
outside of our
sort of more aware
for ego-driven consciousness
then i think also as i age i'm interested in
i'm sort of the shadows where
i think i know what's motivating me or i i i have some wish or even a and a moral compass
but i'm kind of interested in the parts of me that are not on cooker or that are that are sort of outside of what i can see and i'm i'm thinking about that as you're talking about karmic consciousness and how as where
fetuses and newborns infants there's so much this being formed that we may not remember later
that affect us and and perhaps motivate our behavior
and ah
i'm still trying to kind of understand what karmic consciousness is and how to how to have a wide observing
a presence
without too much judgment attached to it yet like letting sort of the
the wider lens of what is there
show itself
without chasing away by what with a moral judgement about it or with trying to improve or trying to take choose the good path or the moral path or the term interested in
in every color that's there and curves trying to steal that but if there's a i guess it's tall called the shadow for a reason because it it it it seems so elusive and silk nine of
and it's sometimes i noticed think show up in myself and others women people kind of lose their temper or they sort of lose it or they behave out of character
the kind of lose control
i'm so curious single okay what's operating was what is that what's gone on there
so i kind of just wanted to bring that i at that into this conversation wonder if you have any
any thoughts or comments about how to kind of were with those ideas
i'm one thing that struck me why you steve you spoke about him
pc like rod awareness can just a broad i think so yeah like a broader lands
a large wider why i couldn't leave
and then you said news that without something without judgment
a wide were not giving as it's likely the ocean like blinder last meet you asked me speak sir a wide awareness were without judgement so i just watch out for the without anything
does that narrows it
the wide judgment you say without something you just narrative
the wide one doesn't have any without
why doesn't have a without it is it's got its big that does not coat outside of their to a few watch out than watch out for saying that that that's post to not have something
so if you want to do this work if you want to have this big mind that can open to the and to the shadow to fight am i have a mind that doesn't try to like not to the are not do that but includes everything
if you want to have a narrow mind and say not there's not that can do this don't judge that that's that's but that much the same mind the one who doesn't judge is the judging mike yeah
this was not judging or not judging it's open to all the judgments
the shadow is open to all the things that are in the light

but the light the is is can get the the shadow but the can open
to what is open to the shadow

one of the things that i'm
feeling is that i'm starting from a fairly narrow
and those ideas about
i'm gonna a given a choice i'm gonna try to give my energy to what i perceive as good
and i i guess part of what i'm saying is that i feel like that's like up
a blinder like it's kind of a blinder and can't be it can be and you want it to one you want to be a wearable that include all that rather than also get rid of the binder
so i think you're right it can be a blind but let's not try to get rid of the blind or just not going to get rid of the blinder that's gonna be another binder a super binder
and you think it is a new music a super binder
but the big this big mind that you want i think it's good to like invite that to come in embrace all these blinders and stuff like that to embrace all that
then the blinders will be disarmed
we tried to get rid of blinders would become more blind
don't thank you
a pet

good evening
thank you so much for this class it's it's just
stimulating so much
look right now i showed some confusion and a bit of confusion about nice for concepts and it kind of came up when you were talking with john and about witnessing and so the for things and i can explain more about how i'm confusing them but there's there's witnessing years the
needing consciousness there's a sell off others karmic consciousness
in a kind of thinking that i'm kind of thinking that witnessing and undiscriminating consciousness are very similar and that the self
either owns the whole shebang or the karmic consciousness owns the whole survey and i'm not sure what the relationship is between cell from karmic consciousness or the day
the same or different
so that's a whole lot of can choose her
oh thank you
so i would say
consciousness doesn't own anything
south doesn't own anything witnessing doesn't want anything and discriminating consciousness doesn't want anything
they don't none of them on anything
including it don't on each other it don't want each other
this doesn't own any the stuff in it
and none of the stuff in it on it
so karmic consciousness has a cell phone it
the salford has is kind of mysterious thing that is a sense of it as an idea of but there was a smell and or something but there does see if there's no sense of self is absent we don't have comic consciousness
soca i'm a consciousness has a self but it doesn't own it
and the self has the karmic consciousness but it doesn't own it there's no selves floating around without a common consciousness surrounding them
so they can't they they require each other to access correct so that they call rise a dependently car rides there's no self arising by itself it arises with of consciousness it arises with feelings it arises with body it
it arises with you know perceptions it arises with the overall were rises with karma karmic pattern all that arises together they're all actually really good friends but don't necessarily realize it yet
and there's confusion in that space but the confusion doesn't own the consciousness and the confusion doesn't own the self and the self doesn't own the confusion and the consciousness doesn't own the confusion and the witnessing doesn't own the things that witnesses and the things that are witnesses don't order organise the witnessing
they call rise
they dependently core rise and the pattern of the consciousness is really helpful to study in order to wake up to the dependent car rising of the whole situation
but the self doesn't own the consciousness even though we say my consciousness now it's ok to save okay or i were to speaking conventionally my consciousness or really i don't own the consciousness in which i appear i don't own it and it doesn't own me
me we dependently core our eyes though the teaching guess and i and of a belief in this consciousness in the teaching that that self and the consciousness arrived together and also the idea the delusion that the self owns the consciousness
also arises with them
and not so many people who is some people may be have the idea that the consciousness all the self that's not so com
like i'm my consciousness itself
but it's equally true as this is my consciousness
really the everything dependently core arises together and also dependently goes away and independently comes up independently goes away however in consciousness their delusions like this owns that and that doesn't own missed the to delusion and that dependently core rises to with the situation
however by studying this we can see how silly a lot of the stuff that's going on there is for example the self owns the feelings of the cellphones of consciousness he's just a silly little delusion
but buddhist studies settlers
understands it that for is
it's understanding these salinas's that are going on in comic consciousness
they seemed so embedded it just it seems
and they're available for compassion and insight and they're available going back to where john brought up there are available for questioning
not not hating them although we can that can be there too but if there's hate of this mess there also can be questioning the head what's sad about the system is this really make any sense to hate the way mind the mind works does it help to clarify things now thanks
look gonna think so
it gets better it sounds to me like i i can understand why people say it takes many lifetimes to sort this out if of it it seems so tangled
yeah and it's really i think it's really important to be enthusiastic about sorting it out so that we we don't think while hands are not yet darn
right quit this is to this book is is this enlightened was just too difficult i quit no no it's one this we need to enjoy this study otherwise we're going to take major bricks
forever but maybe too long the wanted we want to enjoy this study so we can become consistent stay with them this is the deep faith the dogan has
that buddha has that by has a deeply they loved study this
they enjoy it they're not in a hurry to get it over with matter of effect they say i will not finish this and thought everybody understands this
and it's gonna take awhile for everybody understand the so i'm happily here to encourage this study until everybody's doing it
i'm happy to do it

what would you
your muted ah can you hear me now okay i am mom i just so wanted to put my hand down and not doodles
but i'm so confused where i'm confused about is not particularly the process ah
what's going on with examining karmic consciousness somehow that's clear then it's bigger than that i it's like the the basic question is when it's buddha
it's you just settled it at the end of talking to you get something about that's what do is to and i think it was at are no abode
or maybe it was his class i get them
in the last two times i've seen you you said
ah there it many people might want to help i'll be in santa study doing that and people like in therapy i think are basically studying a examining getting out the way of knowing more about up
comic con justice but you said not every body even good people had the intention or be coming a booed in then that got me in this vortex like becoming a
buddha what is that when i thought i forget forget to a to apartment you a mock-up becoming buddha
well okay telling me oh okay i'll take that eight out so he coming buddha means
becoming the deep understanding of confusion
now you got me there were i mean what say that again pleased buddha is that is the great understanding of confusion that's what buildings
oh okay i can't i get it you were using the you you you you told us you got some confusion right
yes so the confusion that's what buddhists study and
when they are confusions understood deeply that's buddha
well i thought kind of everything is at every dependent colorizing it is
if you you can say you could say everything is deeply understand the confusion you can say that that's fine
at all be more me say again the people some people wanna help people
that's something in their mind they actually in their consciousness they see a sincere wish to benefit or all beings are in some people have a sincere wished it and if it's some
but some people who even the ones who want to burn if it all being some of them have told me they don't get this thing this buddha thing
they didn't want to help all beings in an australian one realize buddhahood in part of the reason why they may not want to realize buddhahood is that they just want to help people they don't want to have to like deal with a lot of confusion out i want to help people me when i have to go into the endless confusion
so this let me just help people without like opening up to the endless oceans of confusion but buddhists do that
they opened to all the confusion
because they really want to help all beings and they know that's necessary
with some other people want to help our beings but they don't want it is buddha things too much
so can i had just helped ball without like opening to all the confusion about this
yeah sure
but if you really want to help them in the most complete with and really want to protect them from harm then you have to open to all the confusion at your own pace
so wishing to be a good amaze you wish to opened everybody's confusion it is an including my own
okay that was basic that's a dish an additional difficulty
but it's part of the deal of breathing able to help people
so you're not afraid to go into their confusion with them
buddha's are not afraid you given them worse confusion digital okay i'm here that's gonna fun now
so again some people have this very sincere wish to help people but they don't quite want to like open to the for
a drum of confusion is it
i cannot i don't know how to
if a pigeon out our clock yes i feel temporarily better
please keep didn't take care of that confusion that how i that's the only people like dying out within all
thank you for coming out with me
so i think it's any stop now and although i see some other hands
may our intention equally extend to every being and place will let the true merit of buddha's way beings are numberless
we've our to save them all confusion is inexhaustible we evolved to dive into it and cut through it dharma gates are boundless we vowed to enter them
motorways is unsurpassable we vowed to be comments