The Boatman Does Not Use a Wooden Goose 

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how can you experience that
and you say and just be that why you wouldn't know he wouldn't be able to be just be that
but before we get to that point where you met that last comment and derail your project
the way the way you realize the formlessness of form is by disciplining form

he the form of such a way that it becomes that you have a disciplined relationship with it
so for example the practice the bodhisattva disciplines with the form
you practice generosity towards the form you receive the form
which is
it's been given to you that's why you're wanted to know how to realize the formlessness of the foreigners that are given to you right
not the forms which you don't have anything to do with
you and so in order to enter into it i'm discipline relationship with that in other words a relationship where you learn about the form
discipline comes from your word da a to learn
so to enter into a learn really a learning relationship with a form you start by receiving it
or like a teacher is another form you start by listening to it or reading it or seen
can you practice ethics with the form
be careful of it
be nonviolent with it
don't be possessive of it and so on practice the ethical precepts
with the form can be patient with the form and discomfort you have with it
some forms may be uncomfortable like for sitting you're like may become numb
or you may have some pain some place in your body and so to learn how to be gracious and patient with the pain would be part of the developing a discipline relationship with example the form of city
and then
we move on from there
to develop other
aspects of a disciplined relationship with the form whatever the form is
one could also be a color perception of color or are in emotion
but then is also many traditional practice forms you can use and teachings all these things are forms
all these things are feelings or leasing their perceptions as on
so then you generate the aspiration
to our practice
to continue to use practices and also the practice developing are concentrated presence with the form
and so you discipline yourself in the concentration with the form and then you'd do the discipline of wisdom with the form and then you understand the formlessness of the form or you understand that form is not form
and then you continue to do these practices so that you don't get attached to formlessness

even though before you start this project you may wish to attach to formlessness went to get it
i can we accept if you want to do that you're you're allowed to try

well i'm hadn't made it means that your on and you're focused on it
and the chair hung
can i not tight you're focused on it in a relaxed and open way
so like i saw you working in the kitchen and going out making muffins
and so i don't know what you are doing but he look like you're actually paying attention to the muffin making activity and you weren't like
jabbering away about other things you seem to be actually focused on
the project of mixing the door whenever you are doing so you can focused on muffin making but again this the concentration we're talking about is not a region they have no effect it has quality of
the the standard of whether your concentrated or not is what is is that your body and mind are flexible and soft if you're focused on something but your body and mind or not
flexible and soft and then relaxed when we say that's not concentration that's an effort which is looks like concentration in the sense that you're focused but if the focus isn't relaxed and flexible it's not concentration concentration is actually open
and the openness together with the focus so the openness without the distraction
he's setting the stage for wisdom
the focus with openness is on brings the mind to one point for you actually
realized that the things we're aware of are not out there that actually are aware of and our awareness or one point
so we actually in concentration give up the sense that what's out there is separate from us temporarily relieved from the idea of a separate from a were aware of or that consciousness is separate from what were no
and in this undistracted ness with this non separation and openness we we actually enter into the reality of that
and then we become permanently
free of that delusion and permanently free of believing that a form
he's actually really a form
my which we realized it's also not a for
concentration is necessary for the deep entry into the reality of things
but also concentration has to be open so that we can learn things about learn things and lot of thing that we haven't been opened during before or even that were open to but were too distracted to let the reality the for reality of things
let them be as they are and enter into the actual relationship we have with things

yeah and that's something to be kind towards
to be kind towards whatever you're working with whatever form you're working with but also be kind to the instability of the practice
be generous towards it
be careful of it
don't be don't have ill will towards inconsistency
and if you're ever consistent don't be possessive of the consistency because that will destabilize you too
and be patient with how long it's it's how long it's been that we have not been able to be perfectly consistent
and been patient
ah partly partly involves being in the present with the practice rather think how long we've been doing it and how long will we be able to do it or how long have we been suffering and how long will we be suffering to deal with the present suffering
rather than future and past suffering
so again in concentration we don't we're open to future and past suffering
but the best way to be opened a future and past referee is to be in the print with the present suffering when you really with the present suffering and you relaxed with it he opened to future and past suffering

well that's it that's another form the goal is another form and if you practice these ways with that form of their goal you can realize the goal is snus of that and be free of that goal
goals can be quite useful and soaking the sitting posture can be quite useful and many of the practices we use can be quite useful as opportunities to develop compassion and wisdom
including all the goals goals quite useful so like we just shared a wow
other agents teacher for somewhat ancient teacher that was as at his bow as his goal he wants to be that way he wants to see that way he wants to be compassionate to all beings
this is his goal but he also wants to be relaxed and kind to this goal so that he doesn't gets trapped
by not been kind
to that goal
any other questions tonight yes yes
the road this road is a red room
and it has a certain number of buddha's on it apparently and nothing but buddhas
and why these booties are sitting on very fancy thrones
and i think this is rob was discovered in china
i think and i think i've discovered by reverend co-ceo
others and reverend
such laundry for you put it discovers
and reverend luminous forest
who else discover it
say discovered it
and then they gave some chinese for the money did you for the an empty yeah did you pay them money or they just give it to your
so they made a donation to the store people in the store people say here
and eight and in they gave it to
the buddha dharma and saw nine wearing it for the buddha dharma

the aluminum forced a lot of on is and some other people did too it was kind of falling apart and it's on the verge constantly of falling apart further
he's quite it's a little i think it's a little small for me
it's more suited i think for someone even smaller than me
maybe my granddaughter

he's identify her information but as for the time being
i will it's available for viewing if you let can up closer to some point
same question

yes on like as questions about this the state of relaxation in the space talking about and specifically from his stories we've been reached in the space between teacher to
and i guess what i'm looking at those stories i see a lot of attention there and i'm wondering when it's an emotional tension but is creative tension occurrence stores yeah the and were keeping remarked on the eight
a station for my my of a distinction between the kind of emotional tension where you grasped the one side of the month thank you for that question so
there there in the human situation in some sense inherently has tend enough
he has ah duality it has opposites
as part of our nature and there's attention in that so concentration is necessary in order to be with their attention in a relaxed away
so andy to be
the aware of it to face it to face the of life than the courage ah
the courage to be concentrated is also the courage to face what's happening
the courage to be calm with major conflict of our nature
to be calm and undistracted with the tension between existence and non-existence between the
between the attention of at of nothing and something that the things can't be grasped and that they can be dressed her life has that does two things in it to be in tension between ah neal is and and hedonism
between sub modification and an addiction to sense pleasure or addiction to self mortification an addiction to sense pleasure so a lot of our addictions have tension in them we are addicted
so concentration is to be undistracted and face these things and be relaxed and open
so we can be opened to the inherent
ah tension between good and evil
an open to
how understanding can arise about good and evil
but if we can't relax with them
we can't enter into their reality which they are a sense are covering
the reality
have of good and evil has been covered by the appearance of good separate from evil or good being something exists by itself is intention with the evil that exists by itself if we can relax with these things and yet jason and with complete presence
we can open to with they're hiding
what they're concealing
which is the emptiness of both of them the in substantially of either and an is substantially of attention
so we need to develop a relaxed body in order to face
the tensions of our life
the the have attention the contradictions
someone way when i look at these stores at lucerne today i actually see the flame of attention and the trap is to get the attention substantiate in some point yeah the trap is to is to him
try to eliminate detention
for or to try to control it
or find some way around it
when you get one of the sides
so it's a nice try i think it's can see
i feel it is a good example of other pushing and pulling each other you know like i feel i i i said in an attic i said in in the session this this is like gum
there there are practicing tangle with the teaching of
there's nothing out there
they're not to say okay they're pushing on each other around this
is it the teacher say my teacher taught that does nothing out there in front of you and i like in your face saying there's nothing out there in front of you and your and my face saying it on a wristband and i'm saying you should understand and you're saying i really don't we're going back and forth like that
is it a dance or are we taking positions and my taking the position you really should understand for such as my offering to you are as i just my following he i wouldn't be able to say you really sure if you didn't just say that you didn't couldn't and now since you say you really don't i can say tough
in a tough isn't it
and then tomorrow i'll have more to say if i make it through the night and somebody asked me what we said today
and i get to see now the board of compassion
it's not road over pure water
in precipitous straits
one geese are not really have any use
it's all made this is all made possible by this relaxed
dance with opposition who pushed him back and forth on each other
and in i i have a feeling like
maybe luke who had a successor maybe he didn't
actually some records say he had eleven successors
and then the question is whether his last
the last night of his life
was able to find another successor
and i liked the word successor because successor isn't it isn't really exactly a student anymore

at the time to a successor may visit the student is a teacher during the teachers with student
are the students of the living teacher and the teacher is the defunct teacher
and maybe all students are from teachers
coming to help their teacher be successful
by pretending to be defunct teacher

yes the deep relaxation in attention and for anything else
comes from
attention comes from attention wearers of what is
awareness of the tensions in naples one to deeply relax during the face of
well the whole process kind of start to a summit some attention or some noticing of something have some form so we can we practice kindness and can we notice the thing
and whenever way for human and we noticed something there is tension
for example we noticed something and we noticed that it's not there it is there
but if we noticed that it is there actually there's an implied tension that it's not there is there too
but we're emphasizing is there but that's the kind of a problem of emphasizing one side of it so we noticed that and then we practice generosity ethics and patients with it
so intentions there throughout but it's not just attention
is compassionate attention because people can pay attention
nasty way
and the practice attempting a nasty way they don't develop the kind of relaxation that's also when distracted
so you can be nasty to somebody and be relaxed about it like i'm nasty to you but there's no problem you know you can notice somebody's be nasty and say you know there was less doesn't matter that i was nasty that's not a kind relaxation the relaxation that comes from day
ing respectful and generous and careful and ethical with the thing
that's a relaxation where you're giving a lot of
you're honoring the thing
kindness now
the relaxation that comes with focusing based on these kindnesses
that relaxation
is based on all these different aspects of compassionate attention
peppers my my question was the the route to the deep relaxation of yesterday
once it starts with starts with paying attention to notice noticing the thing and then
and then being generous stories it and so on
and that leads to a relaxation that's based on kindness rather than relaxation based on discounting the thing we can often relaxed with things that we think of insects inconsequential
but to relax is something that we think is very valuable and very precious
sometimes you have trouble relaxing but that relaxation
he's one were actually think this is important so we are paying attention
this is like something we really value and we're really at having a good opportunity to connect with distracted from it because we think it's important we really want to stay focused on it but also we want to be relaxed so bodhisattvas heart
trying to develop a focus on the welfare of others
a study focused on the best welfare and happiness of others and to be relaxed with that and playful with that
then they can enter into not only thing
compassionate and focused on beings but playful and
understanding them
but attention is going to the whole process
including attention to any lack of compassion and then being compassionate with a lack of compassion
thinking of the word awareness and i'm thinking
stated duvalier twice when i haven't lonely awareness i can
after because a field
so you were speaking to the constant was for a you down
all the various steps that injured
of a way
you no longer and coding
discover view is that you just becoming aware
there isn't is it safe
you can't be mean per se because it's like the sphere that last stuff into that were all that's available talent as and it's neutrality that doesn't have an ability to be mean or a pint it's just
didn't make sense to you a little bit innocence of and whereas get our mental illnesses between awareness and attention
so when you say the attention is an aspect of awareness
hey you know it's it's and because it feels like it can have a lot more attached to like you just said whereas i like awareness doesn't have more
you just curious
you just aware he is yeah
i guess when i was a you're saying and attention attention in mean i gave an awareness you need i've ever been he just aware
i'm aware that this is a yeah just basic awareness yeah
and then but but awareness also can be accompanied by attention
and the attention than attends to something and then there can be compassionate towards that thing or not
but the basic awareness
he's pretty much the same as being alive
for the basic awareness is accompanied by attending to different possible objects of awareness
but the awareness itself in seizure as you're saying that which is just awareness but it comes up with mental factors
like attention and then
an intention is company by compassion and wisdom or not

for lease at one story has been told here today
so this is the last
when day sitting of know about this year probably unless somebody comes up with another one
but just in case if we don't thank you for coming to what might be the last one day sitting of this year this year dedicated to studying delusion
we did study division are you didn't wait
and i have this delusion that we had a wonderful time
and that were very kind to our division a lot of the time
and that we might continue to study delusion
and be kind to delusion and become free of diversion for the welfare of all beings
i heard that story i have that dream i have that intention i have that vow
i joined tories and jeez wow
debate really kind to all delusion
has always been kind to the border

thank you very much may or intention
expand terry
in place
this way
the progress
how to save them
asked about
hi to and down dynamo okay on lists
try to answer them
as way is unsurpassable ah a lovely comment
so sitting like to say to a look at the christmas tree
turn the lights are imperative
over the i know
i've been told i have often fears especially went back like list
i accept my destiny