Just This Is: the Avatamsaka Sutra in the Zen Tradition

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can i shall we and we just finished
in practice period
over the ridge in the valley of the jolly green dragon

didn't leave you are
participate in that practice brood
no but and then we have to she'd some of your in the session yeah right

i did a i'm for six months i've been in practice period
now my schedule is more open
during the practice period
the theme of the practice period which is also the theme of our
series of meetings over in berkeley the theme was buddha activity
you'd heard that before
i brought up your last time right buddha activity

i heard that good at the word booed as the past participle of the route
which means to awake so what is awakened awakened one
so awakened awakening awakening is an activity
it's not just a
it's not just a state of awareness
it's not just a mind
it's an active awareness it's an activity awareness
it's a practice it's a way of life
and this this activity of awakening
freeze beings
and the awakening wants to wants to free beings and i watched your free all beings the boot activities wishing and liberating
all banks
not being liberated from being
kind of trapped
and their karmic consciousness

so the buddha activity is to free beings from there
on freenas so they may live in peace and harmony with all beings so that would that's the boat activity we've been considering
shall we consider it some more

so it's a buddha activity is an enlightenment which is a practice it's a practice it's a way of activity which is enlightenment

this morning i brought out this large
there's a book inside this nice
this nice
rapper see the nice wrapper

so here's the book
is called the flop and english as called the flower adornment scripture
this trends this this version of it this english translation is ah
sixteen hundred pages
and in sanskrit is called the of a tom a sutra
the suitors about boating activity

some people would like me too
i go through this sutra with them
which i will be happy to do but i have some problems with that project which if you ask me i'll tell you about later for now i just wanna say you saw the book and this book is
as a really big influence on what we call
what people call the zen tradition for the zen school it's very influential
of course the heart sutra is to and the diamond sutra and the heart sutra and diamond sutra are kind like in the background
of this cetera
this sutra
sort of comes forth
the teachings of the
heart of great perfect wisdom scripture in the teaching of the diamond a perfect wisdom so those are perfect wisdom scriptures and
the style of that form of teaching is in the background of this form of teaching this form of teaching
is in accord with it but on

it offers some
positive antidote to the negativity of the perfect wisdom scriptures
so the perfect wisdom scriptures like teach form is emptiness emptiness is form
they teach that all phenomena lack any kind of independent existence
and the but they also teach that phenomena and their ultimate truth there emptiness phenomena and their lack of any independent self existence
that the lack of independent existence and the phenomena
i'm not a dual
phenomena and their ultimate nature
or non do
the superficial way that things appear
and a profound where they are beyond appearances their non dual
and the perfect western scriptures make that point
for the welfare of the world
and if we understood those teachings properly
we wouldn't need this scripture
i received but it's hard to understand them properly
so this scripture is given
in other words
the teaching that
superficial and profound
are phenomenal and
a phenomenal the phenomenon and the principle of all phenomena which is emptiness
the fact that they're not dual in the scriptures is the end of the story
but dot com stock a teacher says well it's not exactly the end of the story these these two actually things that are not dual
they have a relationship
the ultimate truth and the conventional truth or provisional truth
they actually have a relationship and in this scripture tells us about the relationship
they're they're not just not do that they danced together they talked together they
they include each other the interviews each other they pivot with each other they pervade each other
so design school is in accord with the perfect wisdom teachings but it also receives a big influence from this flower adornment scripture
in terms of the ultimate interviews is the relative or the the superficial and vice versa

so the thing we talk about the zen tradition
yeah so now here we are we can say at this temple is in some sense
a temple that's in part that's enough zen tradition and one way i'm talking about tradition is that in a tradition you you you might imagine
the past of the tradition that the tradition has a past it has some
images or stories about itself which the people in the present remember or think about
as part of the tradition

so just now i told you some stories about the zen tradition being influenced in china by the perfect wisdom scriptures and also by this flower adornment scripture
now in the flour darman scripture or one of the main some people might say the main teaching of the scripture is what i just talked about
in it is the teaching
that takes a step after the perfect wisdom perfect wisdom is form is emptiness emptiness is form form is not different from emptiness emptiness is not different from form feelings are emptiness emptiness
his feelings perceptions are emptiness emptiness is perception emotions are emptiness emptiness his emotions consciousness
and consciousness meant there is to self consciousness the karmic consciousness is emptiness emptiness is carmen consciousness
the are times like cause him to takes another step and says
is included in emptiness emptiness is included in form
not just equal and non dual but there including are included in each other you can see one in the other
so it's emphasizing the mirror like
quality of the buddha mind watch the buddha mind watch the buddha mind form is emptiness emptiness is form as buddha mind but that's also a mirror
there was an article in the i think it was in oracle maggot oracle newspaper magazine that they head back in the sixties for haight ashbury the oracle and i think they had a little article on suzuki roshi in there one time
and they said and they asked him what his main teaching and is said main teaching is
form is emptiness emptiness is form

he actually didn't say that say that teaching very much as zen center
we chatted you know
every day but he didn't say them over and over he talked about a lot of other stuff but that's the one he told the people in the inner the hippies are so when he told the hippies

so again we'll who the zen tradition totally agrees with that we chant at every day form is emptiness emptiness is form of the same is true feelings perceptions formations and consciousness okay
but we also chat
right in light there is darkness right in darkness there is light

right an emptiness
there is formed right informed as emptiness
so emptiness is a mirror for form and formed as a mirror for emptiness
so everything's a mirror

including all ultimate truth is a mirror
conventional truth is a mirror this is a part of the zen tradition

this form and happiness happiness for
warm weather or into the brain different ways of looking at to say
they they're they're different they're different yeah that the second
when they're actually
they're different out to point out that
it's not just that they're non dual but they include each other is all different
it's a little cozier
doesn't exclude the non-duality but it's an a mutually inclusive non-duality
so like you say okay ultimate truth is conventional truth
but the other one's saying in the ultimate truth within it is the conventional
so we don't want to separate to do that's good but now we're also saying in each one is the other one
so here is the ultimate here's the conventional their one and
they include each other
so for example you and i are non dual were not separated ultimate truth and conventional tooth or not separate
they're the same briley
and then one more step is they include each other and are included in each other
it's a little cozier it it also addresses of perhaps a little up other aspects of resistance to this teaching
i'm okay i'm okay we're not separate but not that were include each other
or i'm okay with me including you but i'm not included i'm not okay with me included in you
you included me
so various points of resisting buddha activity resisting and other words being free of what our mind can do

also here
they're marrying you
so the the perfect wisdom scriptures i
i can hardly think of an example where they point out that form an emptiness that ultimate and conventional truths are mirroring each other
but and they
in in my memory in my imagination of this tradition
mirrors the image of mirrors are being used a lot to help people understand
not only the teaching of the perfect wisdom tradition but the teaching of this sutra

i was struck was a little deeper during the last session we had just over the hill recently i was struck by i was more deeply struck that i can't see
see my face
i cannot see my face
for example if i look in a mirror i see a face but does not my face that's a reflection of my face it's not my face i can't see my face
if you take a picture of me i can see the photograph but that's not my face as a picture of my face i can't see my face i didn't possible i got that more deeply recently
i think we sometimes look in a mirror and we think all that's my face
that's and sometimes we don't like it or don't worry is not your face

i can no i would just said enough for today okay i will never be able to see
the face that you see i will never see it but i can see
i can see the face before the face i will never see i can see my original face
i can see my true face
now the face you see is not my original first it's not my true face but you don't see a reflection on my face you see a reflection of life life life
light you see a reflection of light
you see light reflecting on my face you don't see my face either
but i will but in zen when i imagine our tradition i imagine that in the tang dynasty one of our ancestors
i think there's a painting of among the wall around the corner one of our ancestors who we call the sixth ancestor
he said to somebody who was chasing him and trying to get his robe from him
he said to that person
don't think good don't think bad what was your face before your parents were born
it's impossible for me to see
the face after my parents were born
but i would i can see with practice the face before my parents are born and you can too
that's a part of our tradition
that story
and the aspiration to see our original face

during the session
we brought up a story
and the story was about another ancestor
we've brought up a traditional story which could also be called a story of our tradition
again one of the stories of our tradition is that we tell stories
and so we an active that story about our tradition by telling stories about our tradition
and one of the stories we told was about
a person who lived towards the end of the tang dynasty in china he lived from what we call in the west h
oh seven to eight sixty nine
arithmetic says is sixty two years
he lived in china
and he
he had a number of great teachers
he lived at a time in china when you could walk around and meet a numerous
great great body surface
has amazing time and he met a number of them but the one he
the most appreciated
was called
cloudy cliff
young yet
and he hung out with union for quite a while
and so their stories about him and union
and today i think i'm gonna tell at least one
i may not be are not in control here so it may turn into six
i know quite a few stories about isn't that amazing i know quite a few stories about people who've lived
in the ninth century china
and their conversations

so they were having conversations and at one of their conversations was
the student who we call dung schon
went to the teacher named yan yan
where we did to trace the app will come here this morning
and she'll oh this is what when you doing up there
you're sitting or you just sitting by any chance
okay there she is tracey
i thought it tracy because she said to me a while ago what with all these chinese names
that's like you know that similar to like ah when little red riding hood said to the wolf grandma wire eyes so big
and wolf said
to see you better
those names are so you can see better
so anyway here's the student and teacher having conversation and the student informed the teacher that he's gonna go away now
this i don't have a story which says the teacher said to the student you should go away now
the story i have in my mind is a student tells the teacher i'm gone
i want to know
one hundred years from now
which is a polite way to say when you're not around anymore
if someone asked me how should how should i depict your teaching

again to take a step back to the other saga sudre
it teaches that
ultimate truth includes a conventional truth and conventional truth includes ultimate truth not only the equal they include each other but it also goes on to say ultimate truth includes altimeters
that's not so surprising right
but also conventional truth includes conventional truth
or conventional truths include conventional truths some for example a person is a conventional truth
so it says not only does ultimate chairs include conventional not only just a profound includes a superficial but every being includes other each other being
so i include each and i as a phenomena which the face of which i can never see
i can see the phenomena of your face and your face the phenomena of it is clue included in the phenomena of me
everything about you
is included in me everything about you is included in
ultimate truth
everything about ultimate truth is included in everything about you but also everything about you is included everything about me and everything about me is included in everything by you and also it's it's not just you it's all of you and beyond that's another part
of this sutra teaching
the phenomena includes the principal that principal includes phenomena phenomena include phenomena and principal includes principal and also by the way you might not think that ultimate truth would hinder ultimate truth
the vast emptiness certainly wouldn't have any problem including vast emptiness
but the
the phenomena include the phenomena with no hindrance
there's no obstruction in the way that you include all of us that you include me there's no instruction whereas usually people feel there's some obstruction and the of feeling the obstruction is suffering
in other words i don't include that person or i'm not included in that person that's an example i'm not according with this teaching so this teaching comes down to the nitty gritty of each thing unhindered lee including each thing
that's the teaching
along with form is emptiness emptiness is form form is not different from emptiness emptiness is not different from form then take the next step they include each other they pervade each other and it applies form an emptiness but also form and form emptiness and emptiness feeling and feeling
all that got the picture that's the teaching saw them dung sean says to his teacher how should i characterize your teacher you know other than your teaching teacher other than saying that that's that it's the author tom saga surgery
it's the avatar circus to it's the heart surgeries the diamond sutra okay of course
but how should i characterize your teaching teacher
and union says just this is
so in addition to the not addition to yeah i kind of edition or you can say flowering out of the flower adornment scripture is this teaching justices and it might actually be in the suitors and ho her novel from probably is
but even if it is
the teacher caught clip pulls at one little phrase out of the sutra and gives this kind of read not very smart student a very simple version of sixteen hundred pages
three characters just this is the usually translated thus the exhaust this is it in other words
this is is the teaching so the teaching it is justice if that's the teaching of this particular

i often have a problem with the word just in this you just gave us it's huge amount of the media on such and then you say justices it seems like just as almost the opposite of the future
it does he my back
is it saying just other words make that super super super small and in the super super super small the whole universe is in there that's has being said
teaching in this scripture as each particle of each atom
includes innumerable universes
now it might not be surprising to you that a universe includes quite a few atoms
the city thing each atom
includes multiple universes
that's just
as suggest
okay so then
what is it
after receiving this teaching the disciple don't schon
enters into some kind of deep
for a while
and then the teacher says
okay now you've got you have it okay i gave it to you so here's the transmission be acknowledged they were doing transmission for quite awhile before that i don't know how long
but less than one hundred years because he only lived to be sixty two
so one year to year three years i don't know along i had
about four years with suzuki roshi that was great
i don't know how long never together but they were together
add unions place
and then the students gonna leave and the teacher says
you you've inherited it you've inherited this big
this great this great
business this grey
tradition of just includes everything
and everything
is included in just
the so you must be thoroughgoing you gotta take care of this now
this nice
condensation of this a limitless universe
included in everything and by the way
just somewhat parenthetically i wanted we didn't we did a which recited a vow at the beginning of this
and i decided my mentioned to you that our true nature
which is also the true nature of other people
not just aren't your nature but the true nature of all beings
has given rise to the aspiration
to realize itself
the true nature of things is that the is that the true nature wants to be re true nature includes true nature includes our wish
i desire
an aspiration to realize itself
and so it gives rise to these aspirations which then can be exercised and in exercising the aspiration of the true nature of the true natures realized
you gotta true nature
and your true nature has an aspiration to realize itself have you noticed that the aspiration yet it's their your true nature has gotten aspiration and it all it wants us to realize itself and that's all at once and realizing itself means your true nature is buddha activity
your wish your true nature is
you're in you're you're in the middle of your true nature right now right
of course that's what we mean by true nature it's where you are now it's what you are now really and what you are not really
has a wish in it there is a wish in what you are and the wishes to realize where you are and what you are is
your this process of liberating all bangs that's the desperate you are
you and all the other beings are that process so the universe i had the wish according to this teaching this tradition this is a tradition
of telling stories and one of the stories is this tradition
is the universe
which has the nature
an aspiring to realize itself this is a tradition for the universe to realize itself that's what we're into were into the universe realizing itself of course
it's a big responsibility and now you have it so you must be they're going
so that was that was there like they're meeting their final meeting apparently their final meeting i didn't hear about any later meetings like yeah
i heard about the earlier ones but no later ones so they actually to deep separated and never saw each other again
they never saw each other again they never saw it shows again and i said that three times i think
i said it three times because of the next story
not the next jerry the the the next story after the next story
the next story is that
the student whose name is
that's right
did you say you copied caught that copies were dad
we were copied that's tradition is to copy the tradition to copy what you imagine it is dung sean's walking across china now and china not everywhere but a lot of parts of china there's a lot of mountains all those people
we it all those people packed into that country with a lot of mountains so them which has makes things even more packed so when you go places you have to go if to deal with mountains i and so i i actually went to the i'll take that later don't shine actually went on
among those mountains and he came to a river and he saw the river and he looked into the river and be ever looked into a river and he looked into a river
and he saw a reflection on his face
and he understood just this is
and he was you know that was kind of me
that was like a really good thing for him that he understood his teachers teaching him before that he had heard and it was carrying it with him
for a long time and then he saw the reflection and he understood the teaching and then he made of wrote a pot he spoke a poem
which go you know goes something like this in english

don't seek it out side because if you do your stray away from it
everywhere i go i made it

i am not it and truth it is me
you must see are we must see in this way in order to realize
the way things are
such as

now comes the next story
says oh by the way the part i the what i postponed was that i once was in china and jackie was there to anybody else in the trip here
jackie and judy and scott these poor people went to china for some reason
them there i mean i saw their ancestors there i saw younger versions of them there

and we went to this place in china
where there was a river
and there was a bridge over the river is a little river you know you could at the time we were there you could walk you stand in it came up to your ankles or something maybe your knees and away it wasn't a deep river it was more like a creek or couric
but not a crack
four o'clock
he was a little stream and there was a bridge and on the bridge there was a plaque which said where he encountered it

chinese tried try to architecturally backup these stories
and i were a scholar was traveling with us and i said to the scholar how far is it from this place to were don't schon said goodbye to his teacher
and the scholar said one hundred and fifty five miles
so you walk quite a while saw his picture i saw his reflection had this awakening and then just up the hill
i would say less than a thousand yards there's a monastery and that's the monastery
called dunks on which he founded i think
he founded as a result of seeing young
so we went to visit that place and i got some brown rice from that from there it's a between the river and the places lot of rice fields so it's a monastery which on
outside the engaged rice fields
and so the in the end so they they collect the ryzen i got
race from gumption brought back to america
and i'm sorry i didn't give you any
i hate it
later he was he being dumb schon was that dunk shot
and he was doing a memorial service for his teacher
he couldn't see him anymore so he
people who you love who you can see anymore
do memorial services for them
like also last week we did a memorial service for this teacher named suzuki who i can't see anymore
but i get to do memorial services for him i get to sit down and look up at his picture his pictures not him but i get to say thank you teacher and i get to wear robes and he gave me it's really sweet
to do memorial services for people
who you can see anymore
so he was doing one for his teacher
and either before the ceremony or afterwards he told a story
about his last meeting with as teacher
who doesn't get to see anymore
but he does get to tell stories about the last time he song
and part of the tradition is
people getting together who liked to hear people tell stories about people that can't see anymore
or even people get together and people tell stories about people who never been saw
but who are you
related to the people they did see
so i can also tell stories about zucker as his teacher and his teachers teacher and her teacher teacher and heard the i can tell a lot of stories about people like never saw
whereas i'm very happy to do for some i get to tell stories about these great people and you come here and listen to them it's amazing so he's telling a story about his teacher
and our last meeting or he asked him what the teaching was and have prefinished telling the story one of the monks came and said

what does the what was your for is the teachers meaning when he said just this is
reasonable question to interesting
he told you it told us your teachers teaching would you what was it was a meaning of this teaching
and don't shine said
at that time i nearly misunderstood my teacher
did he answer the question did he tell him what it meant
justin says yes
he said at that time i nearly misunderstood is that the meaning of it then he nearly misunderstood maybe just think so i guess
at that time i nearly misunderstood
and then among says while did
did cloudy cliff understand it and his teaching did he understand his own teaching himself

and don't shine so
if he didn't
actually the monks and did dumb schon did union know the meaning or not and then
don't answer
if he didn't know how could he speak thus
and if he didn't know how i would he be willing to speak the us
so here's the as the other times like of center right
everything includes everything is included by everything the universe is in the process of realizing itself through our aspiration which are aspirations are it's aspiration just this is it
if you know this
why would how would you be willing to say it and if you don't know it how would you be willing to say how could you say right there is again gov tom saga surgery
so here's the odd times like etc
union condenses into justice is it than the monks of did he understand
the monks is did he understand here is the other tom saga surgery did he understand here's the other times like a suit journal
did he understand includes the whole universe
at that time i nearly misunderstood my lead teachers meaning whole universe in that question often times like a surgery
did the lead teacher understand himself hoarse whole universe asking the whole universe as a question
and then
if he didn't or if you don't
or if i don't how can i say it how could i if i don't understand how could i how can i say okay if i don't understand how can i say justice is it today to you today i'm saying up justice is justice is i'm saying that today
if i don't understand that how could i say it
on the other hand if i do understand it how can i be willing to say it

as i think it how it is a oliver hardy used to do them
i just saw there's a new there's a new version of it
isn't there are new one with with who who will will farrow who's in it was a poor the actors
is riley and feral are playing all of her stand on holly
yes ali
i mean yeah already i think it's only
if you don't understand you can say it because teaching as was here in every word and if you do understand
it doesn't matter if you're willing to say are not speaking
very good
after now for just forget that okay

because of the situation
even i don't know what you want to call me something like even a adjective like me know even a adjective person like me
the i included just like you do so i can say it i can say just this is
even if i don't understand and so can you go ahead say
yeah right some of you may not understand what you just said but you can still say it and you do because that's the kind of thing it is that's the kind of teaching it is and if you do
even though was kind of trouble so many really don't need to say it you have to say because of in the you say is it sorry
you can avoid it
that's pretty much our introduction to what i wanted to saturday
and eventually made it into actually the
something interesting
well oliver other people before you please okay just don't forget yourself
katie karen
katie karen

yeah you just did can you did so i can do it right
if you can do and i can do it because i include you thank you for bringing it back for me
that was easy for i didn't have that make much effort to bring it back
because because the you bart immediate it
anything more it's already back
who said
you did
so ah so you want to have original face with justice is it
yeah so he's looking in is looking in the water
and he he sees
that's not me
and then he sees in truth it is me
in other words he sees his original face in the mirror
his original face is
that's not my face and it is my face that's my original face did you want to buy original face yeah so there it is red pivoting on this justice is it he's looking and seeing this is not it and in truth this is it
that's the original face he saw he realized his original face by saying what
isn't justice is it and what is doesn't this and because just this is it
it's not the full story of justice is it
and just this is not my face is not the full story
so that right in that part of the story is the original face he didn't say original face but i would say he realized the original face because if he didn't realize nutritional face if he didn't how could he say it
and if he didn't he could say it and if in and if he didn't if he did realize that he would be willing because he was getting all excited
now what
well i guess i'm wondering
the yeah i guess correctly wondered why parents
yeah i'm trying to understand that
ah another way to say it is your face before any apparent before there's any appearance of your face
your profound face before your superficial face
well i just go back to charlie
oh i get for backed karen
when you were talking about the universe aspires to
yeah it's it's that's what it's doing so obviously
is it so i'm not trying to understand home the small some parents so
works in this context
you're trying to understand how it works
yeah you are a stretch what you're doing
the you just describe what you're doing yes that was a description of what you're doing
however what you're actually doing is beyond that description
and you'll never be able to figure that out but you can figure you can you can figure out you know what you're doing it just right there you can figure out that you're trying to figure out but you can actually see what you're doing
and you won't be able to michigan continue trying to figure out or you can take a sabbatical
from figuring out
or such a ora ora in cinema sabbatical which is usually for a year
he couldn't mean half a day
you can take a break from trying to figure out
but even if you're trying to figure out
you're you're trying to figure out completely includes giving that up and realizing that you'll never figure out any of the things you're trying to figure out
you never will be successful as seeing your face
however you have another face which you are in the process of realizing
but that doesn't get rid of the face that's trying to figure things out
which you also can't see
so you can't even and can't even figure out your your face i can see as to professional getty museum superficial version of your face you can only see reflections of superficial versions of your face and you can also see superficial versions
on your attempt to figure things out because even you're figuring is not limited to what you think it is
but you can go ahead and do it or you can take a break
then you could just see what watch life is giving up trying to figure things out what
that's right that dart is the case and had
well i mean it doesn't go away until it goes away from the right right now if you're figuring you're figuring is included in the whole universe
whatever karen does is he is totally included in the whole universe which means not just the the totality of the universe but every particle of it so all your figuring is included for example on all of us
but all your figures included in every particle of the universe
and you can go ahead and try to figure that out
or you can read the all the time second instead of taking a sabbatical you can go on as if it going to what but on sabbatical sometimes you study something so if you read the our tom second surgery and it keep saying over to over and over in many different ways all you're figuring is included in every particle of the universe he a kind of start to say

yeah and all your right
so trippy all all the activities of all the hippies are included in every particle of numbers
so go right ahead but also to in order to realize that all the fingerings of you and me and all the hippies are included in every particle of the universe and the whole universe is included and all of your fingerings to
that it helps to consider the possibility of giving it a break why not because giving it a break is also included so as not pushing it away it's just like well you know
i just don't think i'm just gonna like stop the figure things out for a little while here i'm going to let that happen
and when people start to consider let that happen like at the ogre and nine somebody's taliban he got really scared what would happened to me if i gave it a break
you know what would happen to me if i gave
figuring things out a break
now if you try to push away
and eliminate figuring things out no fear there because that's what you're usually doing is trying to control figuring
but if you think about like just giving up to figuring than you might have wall what about me and he got really scared which is
i brought it up and you took a while for some reason i thought somebody would be afraid at the prospect of like giving up discrimination giving up figuring out
that's a that's like a major understatement
the absolutely part is not an understatement but even absolutely doesn't even approach it
none none of the words we've got reach it is in expressively ineffably the most marvelous the way of the universe really is is marvelous beyond any words and no words reach it but it can talk
fuck the universe can talk and it can say stuff like justice is and it can say stuff like i'm trying to figure it out
but it can also say
we might consider taking a break and that's just scary read the on the tom saga sutra and while you're reading it you will take a break
as you read it you will notice somebody took a break the the you know i stopped trying to figure out how all these universes were included in age particle i i actually just read it and gave up trying to figure out how this could be so
and i even got into rather than figuring it out i thought well maybe so
like i told this story one time
in the zendo as city center about the world honored when walking along with the
his piss his group
and in the group during you know various celestial beings one of them indra
the sovereign of the gods and the world on and one point into the ground and said this is a good place to build a sanctuary and injured took a blade of grass and stuck it in a ground and said the sanctuary is built and a personal blessing that he said in our timeline
it's not gonna give me a break
but then is up
why not maybe you know that can be as true as what i think is true
so i don't want i'm not i'm not asking anybody to give up for her out but i also say now that you mention it to me i'd thought in my mission to that you can give that a break
are you could give it to me give me your fingerings i'll take care of him for wow for you and you can just be figuring free for a little while but not been pushing it away but by giving it away
and that would lead you to actually understand what this teaching is
which you already do but you don't get it so we we need training so again the avatar circus interest says
chapter thirty seven the manifestation of the buddha as the buddha says now i see buddha wakes up now he put it and see this before buddha will go
the buddha activity wasn't done with buddha until a certain point and then when the buddha activity came to maturity which it does the buddha
said now i see what what do you see buddha now i see that all living beings fully possess the wisdom and virtues of the buddha's
which is all living beings include all living beings that are included in all living beings and all living beings are this process of liberating all beings they all include this wisdom which is the activity of levering the deliberating beings everybody is includes
the process and is included in the process the buddha woke up and saw everybody's including this everybody's an example of this and everybody is including everybody else's
being included now i see it the buddha said another was just this is it this is it however
however however because of
misconceptions and attachments
they don't say they don't realize it so i got a job on my hands
is to get them to open to this one of the ways to open a just consider letting go of figuring just letting let go and discriminations let go of trying to get anywhere or get anything yes is that five way
this is saying is that just this is not your ideas about that is part of it yes
so you're going away from me but by the way justice is it
you to go anywhere however every step of the way between
here and where you wind up
and fish can see your reflection
and or rob anderson's going to come and meet you after twelve hundred years every step of the way is also a justice is it
so he's doing justice as it he's carrying the teaching justice is that he's carrying the other times like a surgery right every step of the way
and then he
everything comes together for the moment and then he can build a monastery right nearby

can you put into someone
charlie again wow
not risks

the emptiness of
they are
i say
did you say is did you say in zen practice we are entered into differentiations or discriminations
we are the district we are we honor oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah we are
where the and traditional zen practice honors discrimination
traditional zen practice honors figuring things out
and when you honor figuring things out wholeheartedly you give him a brig
when your honor discriminations whole heartedly you give it a break
but as as you said not the end honoring discriminations is called non discrimination
you don't just honor these discriminations
or those your honor whole and then that's the practice of non discrimination

fully entering at yeah and also being fully entered by
but again if you think about wholeheartedly honoring
discriminations than you might suddenly become quite frightened about what happened to you if you if you live like that what would happen to me if i've fully honored all the discriminations what i still be here or when i i think the person that ten i seem like the whole thing would just collapse

honor them
hundred of them
shouldn't be
if you're trying to get rid of and that's another one trying to get of illusions is very common delusion and zen centres
some places on the street people are not trying to get rid of their delusions are trying to get rid of other people's
which is another delusion but a zen center of people are trying to get rid of their own
and they think that that's not one of them
so if i'm trying to get rid of my delusions i want to honor that one if i'm trying to prove that mine are not delusions as another one if i'm trying to prove the mine are not delusions but actually reality as another diversion if i'm trying to prove that years or wrong as another delusion i don't know
prove anybody's delusions are wrong that's already been taken care of
i don't need to add anything to it is perfectly accomplished
well my job is to is to honor everybody's delusions which is pretty much
on our everybody and undermined mind by fully honoring the delusions are liberated
so key training thing is in the process of liberating us from delusion
is to be compassionate to all delusions
which basically short for being compassionate to everything because all delusions are calling for compassion because they want to be liberated from being stuck cause delusions
often are stuck in delusion and they don't realize that they include wisdom and that they're included in wisdom but if we don't honor our delusions it's okay to honor wisdom to by the way we do honor project apart we do on our perfect wisdom homage to the perfection of wisdom the lovely the whole
holy we sing praises of perfection of wisdom go rate and we will continue won't bring
but also zen is about honoring the illusion
respecting it
not exactly worshipping it but almost like worshipping it
because all delusions are potential dharma doors
but if you don't
love i mean
i'm not like but fully love delusion the diamond door of that delusion won't open
because the delusion includes wisdom
all delusions
include wisdom and all wisdom includes delusion and the wisdom know as an illusion as delusion and illusion things to in truth
as i said this is an introduction to talk that i'll give some day but it it's been going on for pretty long so maybe we should have lunch right
lunges lunch is what is it is another thing to honor
and if we honor lunch we will discover just