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last time we
read
i think maybe the first four sections i'd like to read the for section again where it says that the scriptures such as
the following verse from the scripture
ups acts
experts heating the underlying meaning
zombie number china sutra treat the subject
here's the verse the appropriating consciousness is deep and subtle constantly flowing along with all the seeds of things
i have not tom thought this to common world legs because they
would reapply it and cling to it as a self
so
this first chapter is talking about the consciousness which is the support for all
knowledge
and the usual name for it is the storehouse consciousness
the ally of virginiana
the abode the abode consciousness but another name for it is the appropriate in consciousness donna this yano
and in this fourth
section it's referred to as adana is known
it's called that particularly is called the the alive is known is called appropriating consciousness
at the moment of birth
yes
appropriating
grasping or
taking hold of
it's the consciousness which takes hold of something
at the moment of birth

so this alive in ghana which is also called the donovan ghana at the moment of birth takes hold of something what does it take hold of two things
it takes hold of
the sense organs of a body
it apprehends the sense organs of a body
and it apprehends
the predisposition
towards conventional designation it apprehends a predisposition or propensity towards language
at birth
yes

i mean the first moment that the body as a consciousness which is sometimes called conception
so according to this definition the the
the can sit the moment of conception wouldn't necessarily be at the time of a fertilized egg
unless we could somehow verify that the sense organs there
especially if we can verify that there were six sense organs in a human
but at some point in the
embryo logical process there seems to be organs
and at that time
these organs are warm and functioning
when this consciousness has apprehended them or has
ah made them it's own
and they've made it their own apprehending consciousness
this intimate relationship between the consciousness and the organs the first moment of it
his conception or birth or i'm in
in the consciousness there is called
at apprehending consciousness however it continues to apprehend the whole lifetime
but that apprehend that apprehending of these two things that the tenth organs and predisposition towards language it's sort of on automatic pilot for the rest of the life
and then then we emphasize more that the ally is now the seeds for all the active consciousnesses
the all the active specific consciousnesses in these consciousnesses are active in specific to the organs which elia has embraced
so now comes next paragraph which is kind of big big paragraph
pardon
ah what did i say last
it comes a big big paragraph now

dream
during most of our life the the elia has already hooked into his consciousness has already hooked into and is animating is giving warmth
to our sense organs
and they support it
specific way but mourn intimate
an intimate kind of unconscious way lie as a type of consciousness which unconsciously embraces the organs and the oregon's unconsciously embrace it it's not the organs functioning to create consciousness is which are aware of specific sense data like colors and sounds
those are the active consciousnesses which elia supports
and the way it supports them and the way it influences them is is because it carries the seeds for all their particular home for all their particular
special quality at a given moment
and i've usually what we're talking about or talk about live version on a but this this particular time we're talking bug
at the beginning
and we'll talk about at the death to at the beginning and death
of the living being
so here's the paragraph
yes
this is not is knob

manas his analysis is a type of mind
that
mr there's two types of maness
and
they're coming up in the next section
so
could you please wait till we get to section six
cause that's another big paragraph
so in section five or paragraph five
it says wide as the verse speak of this consciousness as appropriating consciousness because it appropriate and upholds the physical sense organs of sentient beings
and because it supports it is the support for the taking up of all experiences of rebirth
why is his soul because all the physical sense organs having been appropriated by this consciousness do not pass away until the end of life
when it continues into new rebirths it is able to engender and take its own
and make its own their formation for this is how physical bodies in the six destinies are appropriated it is thus that bodies in the six destinies are made one's own
because this taking up is due to the appropriation appropriating of this consciousness it is called the appropriating consciousness
hmm
it means grasping are taking hold of
yes
six destinies the six destinies the human destiny
ah divine destiny
destiny call the fighting spirit's the destiny of hungry ghosts
hungry ghosts animal destinies and our caught infernal
destiny's
this is a different different destinies of living beings can live in
ah we human beings can
can lick can visit all these different realms
yeah but some beings are actually born into them and we are born into the human realm which is kind of in the middle
ah of these six
our the discussion of sick destinies is a another big topic
but let's just talk about the human destiny tonight show we
when was i think's sookie asked about this isn't a liar
is there a common aspect to it did you have something like that last time i talked about collective unconscious so i don't know what young means by collective unconscious but at the end of this chapter i believe it sir in the verse sixty or section sixty
i talk about three kinds of storehouse consciousness when they talk about for kinds of storehouse consciousness and or three aspects of storehouse consciousness and for aspects of storehouse consciousness and when speaking of the for the fourth asked back to the storehouse consciousness is called the characteristic
six of the storehouse consciousness and the characteristics
are called common characteristics and specific our individual characteristics
so this this consciousness which is the support of all active defiled states of mind this consciousness has a common part
a part which you which for example people in a particular destiny like in the human destiny
we ah we share in common
a world
and
the the way we live in the same world or the the world we live in together is the common characteristic of this consciousness
and this specific for the individual characteristics this consciousness
is on
how
individual beings are connected to individual sense organs
so this consciousness is not
yeah this consciousness is it embraces and is where of a world and the common the common world is aware of
is this common characteristic and it's also connects to individual physical sense organs and that's a specific characteristic
and
and that connection may gives rise to individual active sense consciousnesses which mean that in a given moment like right now there's
there's quite a few individual active consciousnesses which are specifically aware of sights and sounds and smells and so on
in the world we share each of us is having a different active sense consciousness arising right now
which depends on individual special sense organs which we do not sure
but we wish the world we share is actually
the common characteristic
it's the it's the part of a liar the aspect of consciousness which we share
the consciousness which supports individual
active consciousnesses
is do specifically to the past karma of elia relating
of the past karma of an lyra is connected to a particular set of sense organs
and the group karma is not
the group all the past karma of the group
that's the that's the world that we share so the world is produced by the activity of all living beings
of all destinies and then there's like some worlds within the world created by all beings that are people being that have similar karma share
now
how is it that at birth or a minor know let's let's go to death shall we
at death
it it has been at it has been observed by many living beings that a death there seems to be a pretty clear sense that consciousness or warmth is withdrawing from the sense organs
in this teaching were saying that the withdrawing up from the sense organs is a similar thing to withdrawing of warmth from the sense organs
life
so a lot of people are dying if you can see that their sense of touch is withdrawing the warmth of the body seems to be withdrawing from the extremities into the center
the physical sensation of touch seems to be withdrawing into the center the vision seems to be dimming and withdrawing into the center the hearing cease to be dimming and withdrawing into the same center
as we age
this ally in some sense gradually and sometimes suddenly
withdraws from the sense organs
into finally like a point
and then editor at a certain point time it actually seems to dissociate entirely from the organs
when people are in shock even you know young people when they go into shock i think what happens court interpreting what happens through this teaching is that suddenly
the elia the storehouse consciousness releases its apprehending of the sense organs and withdraws suddenly into the center
so that a person a young person a young healthy person who goes into shock can die of shock and i my interpretation at this point would be the dying shock means that their consciousness withdraws from the sense organs can do a center and then leaves the body
so that that the shock can happen to people at various ages
but often times it happens very slowly
sometimes over decades
withdrawing from the census the census get turned off
like my dog this her senses are getting turned off at her hearing and seeing are getting turned off her sense of touch is getting turned off is withdrawing it's still there and it pulses in and out sometimes it goes back out and fills it goes back onto the organs for a little while and then withdraws
when
the smell and taste seem to be still out there and quite quite a much pretty much into the
oregon's but the other of the other things are withdrawing
but it's not it's not a in arctic there can be withdraw in re inhabiting withdrawn real inhabiting so this the a death there's this thing then now what do we have after death now we have a body which is uninhabited by consciousness that's not warmed by ca
consciousness and a grudge and and this if it continues like this for a while the bodies seems to be pretty much irreversibly dead as you may know there's many examples of people who seem to be dead but they're not really dead because there's still some consciousness in the body the cartoons has not exited
so again even though the heart stops and brain evens off
the coaches can reenter habit and reactivate the body
you know back and forth several times
certain yogis show off with doing that kind of tricks
but at a certain point it's according to this school long after sometimes western medicine has said the person's dead the person dies the person's dead and now we have a dead body which has nothing to do with any consciousness so what do we have in terms of elia where we still have
the world the sense of a world there's still a world is this pretty much the same world that was there before this person died
and that world is is not something outside of us it's actually our consciousness
and that consciousness goes on after somebody dies but it was when they were alive with their consciousness do it was their ally of aegina so they don't lose their ally of as young they lose their active consciousnesses because active consciousnesses are related to sense organs
and their support is a liar which as apprehended the sense organs so that the
the consciousness which is our experienced world doesn't stop with somebody dies
and before i answer these questions to wanna say the question is what happens to the individual part of the alive is nana after it with
raws from individual sense involvement
i'm proposing that the the world the experienced world goes on when somebody dies
and
but i don't say that the individual
ah special aspect of elia goes on to their die i don't say that yet this is the big thing to meditate on tonight together yes
apprehension
what apprehension i think the word apprehension
as to mean is one is to apprehend something and the other is you have what a you sort of like it's almost like you have a
a pre a precognition of something right or or your or you haven't for your have a fear of something i have a vague apprehension means i have a vague sense that something's gonna happen
right
that's one meaning of apprehension the other would be that you detach the the the the the noun have apprehended you apprehended something
grasping is an immediate simple word the grasping consciousness yes
i say your question okay
so
now we now the now what could happen is that this the specific involvement
of the storehouse of the unconscious mind
which supports all conscious activity it couldn't be that that withdraws from one body and immediately apprehends another that would make life simpler and away
but the wanted but but part of what i'm suggesting is is going to apprehend another body that means apprehend another set of sense organs
but there might not be a suitable set of sense organs
for ah for this particular lineage
oh la specific unconscious storehouse consciousness to connect to
now this couch just can't be too picky otherwise i mean they seem to be a time limit
it can't wait around indefinitely
for the proper destiny
i've just heard that the doesn't that doesn't float indefinitely
and i don't know why
i've heard that the maximum of forty nine days
maybe that's a metaphor but the thing is to saying that that it isn't end there isn't an indefinite period after it withdraws from one set of sense organs before it reconnects to another set of sense organs
if it were immediate again that would be simpler because it because it in a way that it happened every moment that it because the sense organs are changing
all the time so it connects to a set of sense organs they change in a kicks connects to another sense of sense organs and in you know the sense organs are changing a lie is changing but every moment of like grasped the body apprehends the body appropriate the body appropriating appropriate appropriating appropriating it does it all that
time
now it disappear operated
this specific quality of it is not functioning now
and it doesn't supports it doesn't sport actives the specific consciousness is either
but it is gonna be another brief is can be a births you can have to appropriate another set of cut another set of the sense organs
how does that work
that this appropriating consciousness after it withdraws from a certain set of organs how does it connect to another set of organs
yes

did you hear his question
no he said something like is is this are appropriating consciousness when it withdraws from the organs or it's appropriated is it somehow imprinted by the organs or buy something
real
i say
is the if it's gonna be reinvested is the is the investing process conditioned by something before he didn't say what it is i'll tell you what with the what the conditioning as the conditioning is that this this this consciousness is basically just the reason
schultz
of the way
active consciousnesses which are related to specific sense organs the way the kind of karma they did is basically what makes this consciousness
so the way this consciousness
connected to a body and the kinds of cut out the karmic consciousness is that it supported those made it what it is so and those conditioned how it will apprehend another body
so ah if for example a human being
i was active human consciousness
that conditions this consciousness which has now withdrawn from the body
and continues in the
communal or common way
but the act the specific part is is waiting or is not yet able to connect with any specific situation but when it connects when it reinvests in a body that reinvestment will be conditioned by the karma that made it
and if it's a human being that guys now the way the human the the type of carmen that human being has been conditioning this ally all along
so it is possible that if the way the human being was chemically active
that the results of that karma will make a liar which will reinvest in a human body
and some people are most the most asian buddhists considered having a human body are really great opportunity because the human body
doesn't just come with fuck six sense organs like a dog it also comes with his predisposition towards conventional designation
so that we can receive teachings
from the buddha's through language so that's when a great advantages of being a human being is that you can get dharma teachings
and other animals could get down a teachings but ah
it's not so clear that they do have a buddha who is or how the boys are teaching them
so the human situation and way seems to be a really good one so there is some sense of wouldn't be good if we got to be human again
after we die
so they can take so we could continue the practice
i'm continuing the practice means working with active consciousness
in a way that develops wisdom and compassion
being compassionate towards it is defiled states be compassionate towards is deluded states which are supported by elia receive teachings of how to work with is deluded states we teach receive teachings about this deluded stays and receiving these teachings and practicing with these teachings
in this active states transforms the ally in the direction of
buddha's wisdom
and it doesn't mean that the whole process goes flat if we don't get a human body it just the human body is ah
you know it's it's really great opportunity because there's always great teachings in language for us and all these great teachings about how to physical practices
which help us work with are active consciousness in in a beneficial way yes
trouble vice with sounds like dualistic terminology for this appropriating consciousness that yet there's it's andes sense organs and then there's the body and what sounds like a soul or something that's been described here that then leaves the body
habits another body and
i'm wondering what what evidence supports this idea of it yet goes somewhere for forty nine days or less and then go somewhere else where evidence is there that it does it just cease
ah i think this doesn't say they're off
in this hasn't say that it will always be reborn i don't sing and always were here warm or evidence that had ever as yeah but hot if it's ever reborn how does that go on that's what we're looking at and we don't want to make this into a soul so how can we do this without making it into a soul
i mean you're on the verge of making into a soul and when i'm not can try to stop you but i don't want to make it into a soul even though you see it heading that direction
so if you don't make it into a soul and i don't make an who was gonna make it into a soul
what makes you think it goes somewhere after a body dies i don't know what makes me think that as mere fact i don't think that
what i do not not asking you what makes you think that i thought that
the buddha has said a number of times that
how your made to think that i thought that it was gonna go somewhere how the call that kinda works how the comic thought came up in you this is like inconceivable to non borders how that works
we can have it
wonderful spiritual team as long before we understand that kind of stuff
so i'm not trying to to say how how we come to think the way we do
i'm more talking about the teaching about how to care for the way we think we do and teaching for how
what the way we think is supported in how the way we think as consequence which support further ways of thinking this process
in a general way
if understood encourages us to take care of the way we're thinking in a way that causes a transformation of this consciousness
and the complete transformation of consciousness is
ah buddhahood
whereupon what will understand why how people wind up thinking the way they do
the subject
i i did it i didn't really change the subject i just took the subject back to the point of the whole study
you're talking about specific question and i just went to point out the reason for this study it's not really changing the subject it's making clear what the subjects about is to make board is this whole saw teaching is to make buddhas
so the thing is which i said earlier is what what happens to this
the specific aspect of the elia and how does that specific aspect reconnect a reinvest that's good that's
the question i'm not saying it goes any place does it mean
best rather before we get an hour
does this was the idea come from that it does we can invest
well if it if it doesn't reconnect than the virtues of our practice how did they get transmitted to work in another body i've understood that is not a heard from the sense organs and did i mean already use connected if not separate so it doesn't need to reconnect that is
get
what would you say when you when you say it's connected the sense organs were given by it
i don't usually call it in it i just think of this process of since i know but you to said it's connected to the sense organs it was trying to use the terms
but if you just said you are you were told this that it's connected
okay i pay i think of it as the act sensor
the active sensing okay so you've got the active sensing sensing is here yeah i don't think of the sense organ and then i mean you're just i this is new to me i'm hearing about this appropriating consciousness is now
i'm curious whatever as we have that there is this expert thing as i said so
ah so now now we're talking it's okay but now we're talking about sensing and so in this elicit this presentation is saying that sensing is something that is not just an organ
responding to
a stimulation it's a consciousness
so this is talking there maybe some other kind of sensing that that you know about or that you're concerned about but this is specifically concerned about sense consciousnesses because sense consciousnesses
and and kind your karma
and you know etc if there's a some kind of sensing that's not consciousness i
the i mean i'm i'm happy to hear about that but this this teaching is about sense consciousnesses because sense consciousness are generally defiled and deluded sense consciousness is usually
the the consciousness see something or is aware of something and a thinks that the things out there suffer from itself so they may be some sensing there
that's not nothing to do with consciousness like
and what
there may be but as i start to reason about it i don't think there is because if you just touch the skin and the skin you know
it is is a dented or something unless there is consciousness there i don't think it's sensing
but i think of consciousness like you were describing the container consciousness is not something more than one or two days i agree and i don't know if i said that before but the container consciousness is just all the seeds for all the
active consciousnesses so the since consciousness to me is just all the senses that
are there
it's just the sensors or the thing
there's something there's something going on a picture consciousness and then the sensing epicure deck
consciousness is the sense consciousness is not anything in addition to what to view but distancing an awareness of an object
is sensing an awareness isn't aware is it an awareness of mccullar is that a sensing
well there's that we we we got like the successes right yeah and one of those it is
ideas right yeah answered there
so i don't think it's been eating apart from all six of those i guess it's more than just the five you know it entered their six and you the six one is aware of mental objects there's a mind consciousness mind a mind sense
gay and you're saying
you can say we wanted mind you want to high consciousness when you talk about
i think forgive you separate in york
if you separate them the i the i consciousness in addition to the mind matches there so as he did come up with an object
yeah okay so so so what you think that's it that there's not something in addition of
well part of this teaching is saying that that there is something in addition that in the thing in addition to it is an unconscious
which supports this consciousness so there's the active sense consciousness is what you're talking about and were also saying in this teaching
there is a unconscious at the same time simultaneous with it
and has called the ally of is you nana
and the unconscious
is the results of all the past consciousness as you are just talking about so right now we have a
you could say you have a mind consciousness and an eye consciousness together to have any have to consciousnesses and they both have karma they both have a and an activity they both have the intentions they both have delusions okay
that had that current active activity of those two consciousness as the i consciousness in the mind consciousness that is simultaneously now transforming
the results of the past karma which supported it's arising
if you just have the active consciousnesses there's no transmission of karma
because they arise and cease
but because of this teaching
before they cease they transform the results of all pass karma and so they arise with the result supported by the results of past action and the current action transforms the past action and they both use together and now a new past action comes up which has been changed by the peloton previous past action in
supports a new president action which can be mind consciousness high consciousness year catch all this can be happening or just mind consciousness and ear consciousness or mike whatever
okay
now we still have this issue of you know adapt to deal with yes

i couldn't fall all that
maybe could do it again more slowly
well

okay so so you just stop there so she thought i was saying that there's a complete separation at death between the individual consciousness and the collective consciousness okay
okay so it's not
it's not really in an individual consciousness and a collective consciousness is the storehouse consciousness which has to two aspects k
the two aspects are not separate from each other gay however the specific aspect this is the uncommon aspect which is not separate from the common
when it doesn't have an actual set of organs is connected with the question is what is it doing what kind of a life does it have when it's not connected to a body

not know when i said it transformed the lavish nana i was referring to the sense consciousnesses
yes
do they transform into death know the the sense cause at death the sense couches are going on up until they're okay
they're getting they're getting kind of downtrodden because the support of them is withdrawing from the organs
so as people approach does sometimes they don't really have any more i consciousness or ear consciousness going on
but they still have some sense consciousness is going on as long as they got a liar that can have some sense conscious because elias supports the active sense cognitions right up to death except that maybe not as much as it usually as it did most of the light before
if a person lost their sight they still have a liar
for like helen keller right no site no hearing
she had liar though these yoga is going to these states they don't have sight hearing sound smell touch taste there and even a mental cognition all their all their active coaches are turned off more or less but they still are warm
their order their sense organs don't die
and they're consciously when they come out
elia supports the reactivation of active consciousness so i death it's not that the sense organs or stop exactly but their support stops a liar which lives in the body withdraws from the body so that all the active consciousness is don't have a support anymore
hmm

you're saying you're saying it goes into the storehouse kinds of this but it is the storehouse consciousness
so that the a lion is the individual
the individual the special non common aspect of elia doesn't go any place
it still it's still the elia i'm saying but where does where does the special quality what happens the special quality when it doesn't have a body to connect you
hmm
yeah you're trying to stand it good dessert to digest anything yet
did anybody else done anything yet
i haven't told you yeah right
yes
i might not tell you you might have to find yourself
do it a soul or self gay i don't want do that i don't want to do that and yet
pardon

you may be sending that ship out you may have christian you may have christened that ship but i would like to call it back to port and dismantle it
i would like to talk about this because this was supposed to find a way to talk about this without making a lie into a self that floats off you know in his little capsule
and waits for the opportunity get another body how can we understand this in a way that supports our understanding that there is transmission of cause and effect
through birth and death without setting up a self this is a big challenge to the teaching and this teaching is getting more into the details of the transmission and some earlier teachers were doing which said there would just active consciousness but if you have just active consciousnesses it doesn't make the the you
cannot explain how they transmit to each other because they don't live there don't they don't coexist
one dies in the other one comes up and also you can explain how a positive one two stops in a negative one comes up but elia
explains is very nicely
it's and but this this next part though i think it be this is really good for us to understand now that part but we've got now the death were saying that the ally of the the special quality of a liar
the individual apprehension
why doesn't seem to have any individual that it's apprehending or doesn't have these the apprehending of the sense organs doesn't seem to have any sense organs so how do we go from withdrawing
association with one body into establishing are investing association with another body how do we go between those two to carry this ally which is means how does the results of all past karma gets transmitted to another body that it does
who says he does what does the buddha buddha says in in somebody and more china sutra is there any evidence for that
is there is there any is there any evidence that karma gets transmitted from moment from this moment to the next moment is there any of its moments
what's the evidence that karma is transmitted from this moment to the next moment
i the best explanation of see what was the evidence
does not
yes
questions
the common consciousness
consciousness
he said
yeah fine

what

all phenomena are empty of inherent existence including
including all phenomena
and the evidence for that is
if you would examine any phenomena thoroughly you would verify that it
you know it doesn't that you you not just you would not just be able to say i have men will find itself you would be able to prove that it cannot be found

it seems like you're talking about to ask
i don't want draw a distinction between
well you don't have to draw heat or not to draw a big distinction draw a little one
so we have a little distinction
there's we have two aspects of alive the common and you want talk about the common more ryan let's talk about common more gay so somebody dies
that prefer that person the world has just
what would happen to the world for them
well this person not no longer has any active consciousness right so what kind of a person is that
hmm
it's a dead got a dead person yeah a dead person doesn't have active consciousness
but they do have a liar the dead person has a liar it doesn't they don't know they have a alive because they don't have any the not conscious
and other bodies being burned up
so what where it was left their consciousness is just
the world the experienced world is is their consciousness
which is and we have their consciousness to read now we have a world

what to say something to do capacity
conventional designations yeah it does for us the world has to do the price of admission to the human world it is to have the propensity for conventional designation and to use it
you can't just have the propensity you have to also like exercise it and do verbal karma if you do you get to be in human world
and we have flies and dogs in our world
but they don't get to be in our world because it unless because they don't have language they're living in the same world yes but they're living in another world because they have different karma from us
they live in the end the war and the some world they live in in our world the circle they live within our circle is the is the circle of dog groomer
or fly com or whatever
so we had this when we when we no longer have active consciousness
which is you could say approached the person has died a lie is not associated with
with the sense organs of that person who has just died
where does the practice of that particular person go
what how does the practice repetition particular person invest in a new body in a new opportunity to practice with an with a new body which means new active karma consciousness how does that happen
this this tax is saying that when it was a withdraws from it as long as the bodies there is consciousness is live and well as long as the bodies alive is conscious there when this consciousness withdraws or stops
the body also starts functioning and then how does it start a new rebirth it's going to apprehend are appropriate can appropriate a new set of sense organs
and as came brought up the way it appropriate them has something to do with the karma that
is stored in it
it is the storage of all the past comments so that past karma will in a sense determine the type of appropriation that occurs
yes
you having a weird thought
yeah

well
yes yes that
that's right that's what that about

but how does that work out how do we want to envision as
how do you want imagine this transmission
yes

yeah

ah yeah it's it's it's rare that it's rare for people to be able to have knowledge of past lives
sorry to have knowledge of past lives in order to understand this teaching
i didn't say you did i'm just mentioning that
so you don't have to acknowledge your past lives in order to understand is this dj
yeah

i i didn't either i can't think of the place specifically where the buddha said not everybody will be reborn
no i don't know of a place where buddha said not everybody will be reborn but i also didn't never heard a place where he said everybody will be reborn
but the bodhisattva path has to do with actually
getting reborn so you can continue to practice to can help continue to help people
jeff

while this does not the state this teaching say there's not a firewall does not firewall between the active consciousnesses which are associated with a particular sets a set of sense organs
and
other active consciousnesses so active consciousnesses subjects can communicate with each other and can can affect each other
you may not but even if you don't know in our persons seeking eucharist you could say something to another person which could be helpful to them
even though they're living
in a active consciousness which creates their own sense of the world which is different from yours you can communicate with them and the world you live in is the results of your past com and their past com

yeah
yes

right right
and and and that you're talking about i hear you talking about
active consciousness okay he's talking about active consciousness that he sees a flag on a hill and anything somebody else put it there that you're active consciousness
okay
the fit the fact that you see it is your active consciousness
and you can share that with somebody else
right
that's an example of shared active consciousness
a liar is shared unconscious it's not it's not shared active caution lie is not like looking in saying or there's a flag
love jeff there's a flag just not as not a lie a lie is result
our active consciousness okay though like active consciousness like hey there's a flag can we look at the flag or was flagged thanks for telling me that's active consciousness when you see things and then i see them and we see them differently but we're both seeing things and we're talking about it would and were
sharing were friends or enemies that's active consciousness and this teaching is saying all the and not active consciousnesses are somewhat diluted
for example most active coaches think that the flag of suffer from them or that their friends are out there suffer from them
okay
they lose you

excuse me before you go to your related question to judge their what i'm saying so far that your examples opera

it is not exactly the result of aren't is sort of the result of our consciousness unconscious but our unconscious is definitely the result of the way we see the world the way you see the world is your active karmic consciousness ally your own consciousness does not see
the world
you're you're active consciousness in the world that you experience the seeing of the world is supported by the mind the unconscious mind which is the world supports are active consciousness would see the world
the act of conscience sees a world sees color sees colors and shapes and people and flags that's active consciousness and that's the most people that are enlightened as to diluted consciousness and that's where we suffer
we don't really suffer in a liar
and we don't do any karma their a liar is we have an unconscious mind here that we're talking about and this unconscious mind supports our conscious mind and our conscious minds were active in do karma and the the effects of our karma
are simultaneous with the karma because arconic simultaneously transformed our past com right at the same moment and then they both seem together next moment our past comment horizons and supports the next active consciousness
an active consciousness can communicate but also the active consciousness is that the the communicate with each other they're also influencing the on each other unconscious because our unconscious
is the result of all of our past karma
our unconscious mind as a result of all of our past karma that aspect of our unconscious is the world
and then another part of our unconscious is not the result of everybody's past karma it's the result of a particular special uncommon lineage of active karma
so there's this there's a specific part in this general part the general part of the world and it's unconscious
and it's that unconscious which is the world supports a conscious life which sees a world the leia doesn't see a world exactly it's sort of aware that there is a world but it doesn't see a world the conscious life colors in the world with sounds and smells and tastes and touch and identities and people

erica

yeah

yeah we're done at buddhahood
no karma not a no lie anymore no unconscious is can compare completely transformed into this
thing called the true body of buddha we're done
now we're done with that but we're not we started his career being entreprise can perfect enlightenment in the night goes out to all the people who aren't done and and in influences them to study their conscious and unconscious life
pardon
yeah buddhas are not reborn
so not everybody is reborn
and some and been some people who aren't buddhists might not be reborn either so this but some people who are not sages might not be reborn either
the thing is some people are reborn and don't particularly want to be in especially when they went after they get reborn their sorry that they did so a lot of people do get reborn that's what the buddha taught and some people want to get reborn
for the welfare of others they want
they want their study to go beyond this life like there are seventy years older eighty years old and they're about to die and they actually wish to be reborn and they hoped that the reborn
with a good community of practitioners so they can continue to receive the teaching and help people some people want to get reborn
some people don't want to get reborn
but lot of people don't want to get reborn
and part of the get part of the reason to get reborn is because they don't want to get reborn
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yes well
for questions
wrap this case that

why in the case of every everybody's buddha

that
ah well the wouldn't be a liar there wouldn't be on any conscious or unconscious huh yeah and the buddha's would be out of work
so as soon as buddhas are out of work as no buddhist
so they were just all they would be is reality and they've been all living beings
you'll be no suffering
not true but if there's one person left one suffering person left all those buddha's would have you know bear down on a person
and just inundate deborah with love and megaman to a buddha but it still might take them a long time because buddhist might have a long job but let's you're saying that they finished that the boys have made every all living beings into buddha's than i would say there's no buddhist because they have no work and unemployed buddha is not a buddha
so
and i wouldn't it is that a miracle or that is that like the university's gutless interesting i don't know
as it is now new babies are being born every day and they
he really need a lot of help so it's gonna be a while unless people stop having new babies before we're going to stop having beings need teaching and and and worked for buddhas and bodhisattvas to do
there still is on the table which we didn't release
i don't think we understood how when this sir
when the individual aspect disassociate from a body how as reconnect to another body this has not been ah
clarified completely tonight
right so we can like forget it and just let it go and move on to the next section with daniel's really interested in
ah
so if we can just wait it just we can just set it aside and say with when did we didn't make it we were not able to answer the question of how does this the individual part of leia how does it leave a body and reconnect with another one we can just set it aside for a while if you want to in come up again
and again
we just move on to sector next section next time
and let this go of that's okay with you
because it it it
i didn't want to skip that paragraph but i noise it's a psycho
as a big deal this rebirth thing is a big deal
it's got up a lot of questions and lot of trouble and and lot of problem about making a cell phone of the process
so if it's okay with you i just i just for next week i won't bring this up again
we just move onto the next section about these two types of consciousness called manas
yes

an easy barely alive

i think my understanding of alive genres as very polite
and it would not inhabit a body of somebody who hadn't left yet
it would wait until the specific the uncommon aspect of elia had vacated sense organs before it went in
it took over it wouldn't it wouldn't go in in push out some other living being from a body
or even from from a body that from a little baby body wouldn't do that
it is if there's presence of conscious

the on the would got the on transformed aspect of her unconscious
is going to seek
generally speaking is going to seek
another thing to grasp wants it wants it for whatever reasons dissociate from a particular sense works and set of sense organs it wants to do it again
i'm not saying it always does but most on on
on transformed consciousnesses will again seek to inhabit another set of sense organs

you could say this is that this dip we're talking about the birth and would being but we're we're also talking about what's called cyclic existence that this ally of the way ally of works is what keeps cyclic existence going this is actually the consciousness which is itself cyclic existence
and so we're talking about a consciousness which is actually what we call some sarah
this teaching actually saying active basically this consciousness is some sark existence and has a general aspect and has specific aspects within the general and the specifics are how within the world of samsara there is the real inhabiting a reinvestment in
in bodies over and over and that this is compulsive
in most cases
and in some cases it's intentional this is the more advanced practitioners they intentionally
join the process of samsara
in order to benefit other beings in samsara which means they intentionally keep exercising this alot this unconscious mind
i
i pray that our intention
pervades every being in place with the true merit of his way
huh