welcome everybody
oh
i want a shoe or
thank you all for this series of meetings i really appreciate your coming to this event on think so devoted to it
and supporting it by your presence
by the gift of your presence
and there was as i mentioned last week in some
will request her request for consideration of perhaps having these meetings a little early
and net he has graciously provided us with survey
have some earlier times all the might meet
and
so yeah i think you'll be receiving that surveyed to express your feelings about
would you like to keep it at the same time or habit
ha ha half an hour earlier an hour earlier since at that and also there's a place for you to make other suggestions

tonight i'd like to learn
let's start by giving up
a kind of review or summary
of these seven weeks of meditation on meditation
and
what
my because zen meditation and of course were imes what i say is just my expression
in my expression as you may have noticed
i'm in a varies from time to time on occasion to occasion
and also i
i there's a kind of review i wanted to again say that
the understanding or the expression of
what met it was zen meditation is is also i've also express that i feel that
a strong influence on a strong source for our meditation practice is the teachings of the lotus sutra
oh well the job been studying with you and other groups for the first
january february march of this year rather intensively
saw thinking one could say that
zen meditation flows out of the ocean of the lotus sutra
dharma of the one vehicle
but we could also say that the lotus sutra flows out of the door of the ocean of zen meditation
there's a reciprocity i say between zen meditation and the lotus sutra
a mutual inclusion

i have also shared with you i think that i am very concerned in our present world
i've had a deal
with the great polarization among
humans and also between some humans and animals and plants
i'm concerned about how to respond to situations
where the great assembly of beings is also a great diversity of beings
different shapes colors ages locations and different philosophies and different world views and different opinions and different commitments we have such variety among the millions and billions of beings
and
there can be strife
and fear
among the ocean of living beings
when they see others who are so different
who ah
have such different views and different values
so again as a review i say that i don't see
i'm not expecting and i'm not working to make everybody the same
i'm not trying to make everybody have this view or that view
i'm trying to find a way to
respond
to all beings and all different views in a way
that you could say
works for and realizes peace and harmony among beings
who really don't agree with each other among beings who sometimes look at others and think the others are terrible monstrous evil beings
this is a situation which is quite common on this planet that humans think other humans are evil
monsters
i don't see an end to that
and that seeing people that way and believing it is a tremendous affliction
but i'm not trying to get rid of that affliction i'm trying to find a way to respond to it in such a way that we become free of it and at peace with it and refined harmony
and the process
of realizing harmony is what i call sometimes zen meditation
and the process of realizing harmony among the tremendous diversity of beings the process of realization is our practice
and this is also the process of realizing
a thorough understanding of the true nature of all things
understanding the true nature of all things is resonant with is in harmony with harmony it's in harmony with peace if we don't understand the nature of things
ah it's hard for us to be at peace with the net with things because we're not at peace when we see the nature the true nature we will be at peace with things
and we can show others how to see the true nature and be at peace and work for peace among
great controversy great hostility great confusion

i also brought up from the lotus sutra
the
teaching the phrase only a buddha together with buddha
do you remember
and i proposed that that is a description of zen meditation
in the largest city and says only a buddha together with buddha
understands thoroughly the nature of all thanks
it doesn't say this but let me say please that only a buddha
together with buddha
realizes
peace and harmony
and again i said
zen meditation realize his harmony
and zen meditation is
only a buddha together with buddha
many of us including me when i first heard about zen meditation
i had been very different understanding than i have today
and i heard about zen meditation
together with hearing about people who were great peacemakers
who are great harmonizes who it is as much that date harmonized but they found together with other people harmony
they came into situations of
great controversy and strife great hostility they entered the situation and they responded to it is such a way that the beings involved in the controversy
together realized peace and harmony and mutual respect and appreciation and gratitude without changing their views at all
they just stopped holding onto their views tightly and open to others and then they didn't hold onto others touch views tightly either
when i hold onto my views i'm prone to hold onto what i think your views are
and maybe to project on you that you're holding on to your views
so when i first heard about zen meditation i thought of this is a training program by which one can respond in a harmony generating way
or a harmony actualizing way
but when i thought of it i thought i'm gonna do zen meditation
and for a long time i was thinking i'm gonna i'm doing zen meditation
but i don't so much think that way anymore
i appreciate and meditation
i'm devoted to zen meditation but what i'm devoted to is not something that i do by myself
so i've gained as a review i i say again
zen meditation is a personal practice
and it's interpersonal practice
but it's not really two different things called personal practice and and interpersonal practice it is a practice which embraces both personal
and impersonal
so i do have a personal practice like when i sit with you
that's my sitting is my personal sitting
and you're sitting in your personal sitting
but also we are sitting together
and zen meditation isn't just that we're sitting together it's that we are practicing our personal way together
the real practices the conversation between your practice and all of our practices
it's aware that embraces and sustains
the practice of one person
and the practice of all beings
and it also embraces it is the sameness of my practice and all of your practices
and that practice i propose is the practice which actualized is peace
and when we said we have were i have a personal sitting we do but are sitting can also be
a testament are witnessing
to the practice of all other bigs and a testament and a statement of faith in a practice that embraces my practice and all beings practice
the reality is that my practice includes years and years includes mine the reality is we are all doing this together and we are on on the path of realizing that
and my personal practice is to like
is to sit and have my sitting be a testament
a assertion
my personal assertion to a practice that includes my personal practice and all of yours that's what i'm saying
appalling that's what i'm devoted to personally i'm devoted personally to not just impersonal and interpersonal i'm devoted to the non duality of your practice and the practice of all beings
i'm devoted to the non-duality of your awakening and the awakening of all beings that is
the czars and i'm talking about
that is my bet
on how to live in a way that actualize his peace
and i'm so happy to
pull that up
to hold up a reality
which doesn't belong to me doesn't belong to you but is actually the reality of who we are

and another they think about the lotus sutra is that it kind of demonstrates ah
it gives a few examples of how people with different views can educate each chapter
and so in the lotus sutra although there's lots of different types of beings in the assembly but am i say lots that's an understatement as a tremendous variety of the beings in the assembly of the lotus sutra just like here
in our life we had tremendous variety and diversity
but it also takes two different
views as a starting point for learning how to
resolve and make peace among all views and the to views are the early buddhist view and the later buddhist view
these views and it works can be seen as opposing each other
as even being hostile to each other
and the views are woodend the view of personal practice a personal liberation a personal moral perfection
and another view of universal
practice of universal liberation and universal moral integrity not not excluding
personal moral perfection
not excluding it as a matter fact including it
and also being included in it so the the early buddhist teaching the early buddhist practitioners in the lotus sutra and the later ones
they are in conversation and that conversation is to show us how they worked it out
and then the idea for me is by practicing the practices by which they mutually respect and include each other sometimes in what appears to be surprising an argumentative ways
we can learn to do that with the people that are close to us so in the lotus sutra to people who are in dialogue are in the same family there in the buddhist family
their students of the buddhists
but they have different views
so in our families even though even when even if we really love each other and respect each other we still have different views
sometimes very different interests
i know you probably know many examples of the very different interests in one family
or in one community
but starting with the people closest to you you can notice of great difference and
so
there can be peace there and we learn how to do it there we can do with a wider family and community and and with the city and then with the state and there was a country and there were the universe

no
ever widening circles ever widening rings ever widening murderous

but not skipping over was right in front of you not skipping over the people you're practicing with face to face not skipping over your children and parents and spouses and partners
working with them doing the practice with them including that they don't want to do it
or even they don't approve of you're doing it
making peace with
your closest friends and part of zen meditation is to learn how to respect
the people who are close to us who disagree with us
it's not about getting them to
do our practice and agree with us is salsa not about them not doing our practice
it's about realizing were included in whatever their practices and they are included and ours
and that again is extended
to realize that the whole universe is included in our practice and we are practice is included in the whole universe but again not skipping over
the concrete examples
that are coming up in our mind and body moment by moment
and my teachings that i'm offering are these teachings which are are my mind which i'm offering
our sometimes quite abstract
but these abstractions are to help us be a completely concrete
i propose an abstract years and instruction i propose that we cannot become completely realize how concrete we are without abstract principles to teach us hard to accept that and settled into our concrete us
and when we fully realize or or concreteness we realize the abstract principles which guided us to that realization
so again abstract and concrete interviews each other
principal and phenomena are interviews and thus one of the sense that is the central teaching of was called soto zen
in china korea and japan and now i would say in the west l a again and that's soto zen that i'm devoted to his is it as it is it a practice of teaching which is that principle and phenomena are interpenetrated
interpenetrating interfacing reciprocal so the process
i'm realizing piece is a process of reciprocity
i member
forty years ago or so somebody said
you know what the main teaching of confuses of comfort sir is
the main teaching is
reciprocity
and i don't know if i told you the story but
awhile ago suzuki roshi his son hurried suzuki
gave a talk is zen center and he said that when he was in college at a buddhist college ah
practiced martial arts a three and i didn't do is study of buddhist teachings
and so he didn't any so he didn't understand what the teacher's words that were there are teaching at the college and yeah asked his father suzuki roshi what is so when is that what is buddhism again teaching and zucker as you said
harmony
harmony reciprocity i cannot make harmony by myself you cannot do it by yourself we do it not just together but reciprocally
and that reciprocity is zen meditation
my practice in your practice
your practice is my practice
and my practice
his personal and your practice in personal and
our practices embrace and sustain each other thank you for embracing and to saving my practice
so i now invite the great assembly the diverse assembly
to make your seventh session offering

hello hello
thank you for bearing witness to my confusion am i guess my question is you know in the lotus sutra at one point there's like this poison house and this guy has to get all his children out of it and he's not making her
many there he's recognizing that this is not conducive to health or something and so he has to extricate his children and find some means to do it and i guess my question with buddhism a little bit right now has to do with the relationship between buddha and me
mara like it is in that in
you know i will always was confused with in jewel mere samadi it talks about the stone woman gets up dancing but then it god
so you just you just brought that example yeah could we do with that example please yeah so is there is the story which isn't brought up of of a father could be a mother whose children are in in his house and the houses and really bad shape and
in burst into flames and he goes to the children and tells him that the houses in flames and suggested they got leave the house but they won't do they don't listen to him
and you said i forgot what you said but anyway he didn't get them to get out of the house he harmonized with them i would say
he took their point of view
they're having fun with their toys and they don't want to give up their toys at their touched you
so they don't want to leave the house he tells him about it but here he he actually he learned that that's not the way to save to help them the way to help them is to take their point of view and their point of view his toys r us
toys are the best forget saving anybody's life and pretty mind just let me play with my toys old man so he thinks oh they like toys i can give him some toys so he tells them about these toys he actually a harmonized with them and in that in understanding their mind he said
i got toys and they're right outside and then church he didn't get them to go out his understanding of them showed him what to offer them because they would get themselves out now it also says the lord to he could have he was a big strong person he was a powerful person he could have picked them up and carried them out
but he didn't do that
he didn't get them out of the house he recognize their mind and in that this is the fourth of the for methods were talking about he did identity practice with them he got in the same boat with them
he saw what they needed so then they saw what did the naked see what they needed they needed better toys they needed toys that word in the house and he told him that there were toys and there were and they run out and they were saved so i would say that's my interpretation the story he didn't get them out
he looked in their mind and found out what they're really interested in and told him that if they want those things they should leave because he knew that they stayed in the house they were not going to get any more toys they're just gonna be incinerated
that's my view of the start and you could bring it you could say he was mark in the sense that he he did his creative thing
which are entice them are attracted them to leave the house
but he didn't harmonize with them being in a in the house he recognized that leaving the house was gonna agree i think he did harmonized put them being in the house and he went it and he went into the house to be with them and at
first he at first he didn't harmonize with them at the beginning he went to be with him at the beginning he did not harmonize with them he told them what to do and in that way he wasn't harmonizing with them and when he did not harmonize with them they didn't they didn't listen to him
the houses on fire we get away leave us alone you're distracting us from our screens
at the beginning he did have the beginning he didn't understand he'd tried he thought he could directly point i'm so that part of the story is that sometimes the way you help people is by miss informing them or miss directing them
he at the first hifi he directly inform them it didn't work and that way he wasn't intimate with them he wasn't harmonizing and it did not work they stayed in the house but danny harmonized with them and then and then order that harmony they ran out of the house
hey hear that
we're good
thank you for hearing that
so did i harmonize with you you hate it i harmonized with your intelligent answer and the harmonize with me i harmonized with i guess it would be you or your active you are either look at you
give up but did i harmonize with you you did but the second question has to do with myra and a relationship between the buddha mara and there to it's a it's a relationship where the buddha's trying to be in harmony with mara
and yeah
and and mars offering a brewdog big challenge to his harmonizing practice and did you hear the story about mar came to buddha and said does your story but he said came to boot any kind of complained about his job does your story and not really tell it okay shall i tell
l it
yeah would you asked me a tone i would
read the obituaries
would would you mind telling the story about mara when you jobs were you know mar samarra comes to boot and says everybody loves you everybody respects you every says thank you to you
you know you got a good job everybody hates me say bad things about me everybody wants to get rid of me i quit i don't want to do this job anymore
and budi said yeah i know
you got a tough job but you can't quit i needed you
i can't do my job if you don't do years and i'm sorry that people who don't appreciate you but later when i teach the group a vehicle just started appreciating you the bodhisattvas they will appreciate you there will be a bodhisattva named g jared and she will really a
echa she will know how how important it is to have you are a pound so we can practice harmonizing with you and samar says okay okay i'll keep i'll keep working here in taji round comes said that because g ran recognizes she's mara
that's because g run says thank you tomorrow yeah not not so much that you are mara but that you include mara and i include my book good it includes mara
and you can't harmonize with something if you push it away the more you push more away the strong the marv horde o'meara get becomes when you're intimate with mara mara is
mara says thank you so much for not excluding me
now when you exclude me i kind of like it in a way because when you exclude me i get really big and powerful
when you include me i turned to the sweet little puppy
and i become very loving and cuddly
but are you morrow in your loving and cuddly or a you have you transformed into a vulnerable to a moron late
oh i've i didn't get transformed into more i realized i included mara
and i treated mara like i would treat a sweet puppy and mara really wants that and that makes more a harmless
if you make mara into a monster and pushed it away mara becomes dangerous and harmful the word mara means as a root of marana which means deadly
she pushed my or away it's deadly so this this practice of include of celebrating mutual inclusion is the vital it's the vital practice it's it's a living path is the living room that includes
mara
all the mars
infinite demons
if we embrace them and sustain them we realize they embrace and sustained buddha
if we push him away they just scream louder
they do not want disrespect they want respect
and the greatest respect is
we we include each other
my life is included in yours
my practice includes years and years includes mine so that in so year including evil you just include evil i i do include evil and also i'm included an evil
and that is
that is
only a buddha together with border
and that is the actualization of harmony is to include people
and to be included in it and in that mutual inclusion there's no attachment to evil
there's not pushing it away there's no holding onto it there's just freedom with it there's just peace with it so again i don't stay the end of evil what i see is the possibility of harmony in a world in an evil world the lotus sutra is for
for an evil world
so there can be peace with evil
and trying to get rid of evil is more evil
try to get rid of evil is pushing away the reality of mutual inclusion
thank you very much for your heartfelt questions
thank you you're welcome

oh that reads right to the question now is because the papers thank you read for all the seven weeks spent of a treat as always
ah so my question is this and
it's one thing to say
yeah i can see on in that were in evil were included an evil and he was included as soon to work toward harmony with all beings but there is either their evil actions in the world which inflict pain and death and various kinds of pressure on people weather's races
physical attacks whether it's people who are acting in such a way that they are destroying possibly destroy the entire environment which supports all the forms of life on earth or
many forms of life on earth and so how do you reconcile just harmonizing with and seeing our unity with evil etc etc
and doing something in the here and now and not waiting you know a thousand years till there's greater harmony in the world to prevent these evil acts that harm living beings directly in the material world now so i guess as best as like articulated that's my question
will you said prevent either
what what about
but but what about when there isn't evil act already is not it's not prevented to and right so when you see an evil act and what to do what voters i think there are coupled together i think a couple to a but usually wouldn't not concerned about what to do with evil at acts when there's no evil acts
me
for go on but i'm not sure i agree with that part for just a simple if the way the way of dealing with an evil act that makes peace is also the way that would he call it
leads to more responses to fear for their evil
in a way that makes further peace because even if i respond to occurred evil right now in a way that makes peace with that evil that doesn't mean there's not gonna be another evil later
so again i'm not i'm actually not into preventing evil that's you know i'm not one of the people i'm not taking on the job to prevent evil i am practicing meeting evil in such a way as to make peace and to protect beings when there is evil
i don't see i don't i don't think i can i don't think i can stop evil but i can meet it in a way that it's a wonderful it interests the situation becomes harmony and peace
i i can do that i have sometimes done it and i'm very happy when that happens
so the buddhist examples are weather when there is evil somebody responds to it in a way that there's peace and respect and ease and and harmony but didn't answer to get rid of the evil or maybe the evil is done it's over
and they responded the situation or maybe the evil still going on and they respond to it and before the evil ends
there's peace
what sometimes maybe there can be peace and there can only be prevention are or stopping it in it's tracks in the middle of an action or preventing deterring another action without there being peace mean because i know i know you can you can there can be summoned someone can be hitting someone for
cruelly and somebody could stop that for an aft an end in a not in a peaceful way but they stop it right now that i've seen that many times so now we to stop that evil
but
another one comes right after it
and there's no peace so we stopped that evil but of it but there's no peace and so people are afraid that there's gonna be another evil and then because they're afraid when the next evil comes it's harder for them to again what they want to do is try to stop at her control it
and again they might be successful
but there's don't know peace so then they're afraid again so then there again vulnerable to getting angry and violent because they're afraid
but if they made peace with that with that violence or that cruelty than than justice they would be less prone
to violence
and to on kindness themselves it would be teaching
that whether there's peace or not we can be a be sued me whether there's a evil or harm or not there can be peace but many times there is harm in the harm stopped
you know like the nazis were stopped right and then and then what happened next there wasn't the end of evil
what granted but there is an end of the continued killing by the nazis and have saved lives there was and so with a better to have allowed it to go forward and in the hope of long term harmony which is kind of what i hear you say i'm probably misunderstanding you
right i should start i shouldn't stop somebody from beating their child not not saying you shouldn't stop them i say nothing you shouldn't stop them and i'm also not telling you what you should do i'm just saying that when someone beating their child you might be able to interact with them in such a way that they might stop beating your child and
they also might face banking to you well yes well that's the goal to do book at all is that they would not just stop beating their child but they will say thank you i didn't really want to be doing that anyway thank you but don't sometimes people
the when they go away the person kills her child
because they take revenge on the child for the person stopping them
now cause it didn't make peace they just they just squash that they squash the the cruel person and squashing people's work was cruel people often times
now when i wasn't when i was as in college and in one of experiments i watched was called how to make rat into nazis
and what does a way of trading them so you make them into these monsters and you're basically the wake him into monstrous by frustrating them and crushing them not killing them but frustrating and punishment than they go crazy and they become the and they just attack on the just go crazy kill all the other rats you want they don't
normally do that but with human guidance they can learn to do that why gotta do is treat him like know rat whatever treat them frustrate them in the weighs only humans could think of frustrating and then you turn in this month's what's it called nazi rats
but rats do sometimes fight it is possible that you could interact with their with their fighting in such a way that they would they were discovered peace because they're they're also sometimes peaceful with each other but not always and were sometimes peaceful so i would like
i would like to find a way to interact with not necessarily intervene or interrupt but interact in away with somebody who looks like they're doing something that's harmful and something they don't really want to do
in a way that doesn't put them down but makes them wanna be in i really appreciate a peaceful situation like sometimes on the street when i would see big teenagers beating up a little kids i would grow up to them as say you know you get hives have better things to do them that this has really you know not worthy of you
why should we eat me miss the no thanks know things we don't wanna be up here
but then they start building up the little kid because you know
it wasn't really that much fun to beat up a little kid is more fun to play with somebody your own size and especially in a way that you've finally wind up realizing you know you love each other that's the best that's what i would like to realize is to meet even
such a way that the evil and i are i in the evil realize that work visually including each other
so again that the difficult zen practice is
the horse arise before the donc believes
good piece arrives before disharmony goes away and that's that's hard to understand
and but to are examples of where people are doing something harmful then somebody comes and miss them gently and they give it up the isn't it the person stops them it just a person moving guides them to let go
so of then the evil is kind of disarmed
and that's a beautiful thing to disarm evil
but it in a way that it isn't just disarming for the moment and then you walk away and they pick up their arms again and use them but to disarm 'em my way they feel like a big relief thank you thank you i didn't really wanna be doing that
you helped me see that thank you rather than you idiot stop doing that cruel thing oh yeah well when you're gone i'm in a really do it
thank you that's thought provoking i suspect we had this essentially this dialogue before i suspect we'll be having a further in the future that would be wonderful when it was
it would be wonderful if we could continue to be good friends with
and have different views right yeah yeah the harvard submission conversation i'm not trying to get you to change your views
and i don't feel like you're trying to get me to change mine you're just questioning me and i'm offering alternatives it is the path to peace
thank you

ah till my last time you are here we we could you could i couldn't hear you
the i hope you can hear me now i can i can
great
well first of a reviews from isabel
set a limits to rather sleep at this early time yeah
he say she appreciates you
and ganda have one question about what look it up about what is said about being abstract and i think there were some people last time to accept you appeared to to answer quite abstractly sometimes on to the concrete questions
or general for general yeah yeah no general's effect
universal and particular
so so one of the abstract teachings is that the abstract and concrete interviews
and that's an abstract teach him
but there can be concrete examples of that
where you could give a concrete example of the way somebody takes care of some concrete thing like i just reached over and picked this up right
so part of zen practice is we take care of concrete things like this
but we take care of them as though are taking care of the whole universe
we take care of garbage we we try to take care of the garbage
or
other things that we think of usually throwing away we try to take care of them with the same care and we would take care of a buddhist statue or a buddha
it isn't so much retreat buddha's like retreat garbage usually but we treat garbage like retreat buddha
and in that way we concretely demonstrate
the internet fusion of universal in particular
of sometimes we we talk about it to set the stage for the practice

so is this
this way off
treating the particular sort of a universal way nor not in the universe away treat the particular in a particular way i will see my hand
the i'm moving my hand in particular ways i'm not moving my fingers in universal ways my my hand is moving in particular particular error these are articulated digits right there articulate and other reaching over and they're picking this up and they're picking it up in a particular way
but i want to pick this up in a particular way
to show you
that i believe that this stick
includes the whole universe
and i want to talk to you
in a way to show that i believe that you include the whole universe
and if i don't respect you
one of the ways not to respect somebody is to think that what is that the way you see them is the way they are rather than the way you see them is just one way to see them and there's infinite ways to see them
but still the way you see them should be given your utmost respect
and when we treat concrete things
with utmost respect and kindness the doors to the universal open
and then we realize freedom from concreteness by the way we take care of the concrete

concerned i'd like to check
kenneth j one one understanding of myself because
personally i thought there was a limit involved somehow that get by
asking it or bye bye bye bye is sort of
answering
with it sort of abstract more general way that their sorrowfully that you are giving us limit in a way saying
you can limit to limiting ourselves maybe had no hope that that makes sense yeah well our speech is limited
is limited and if you fully express if you go to the limits of your speech your speeches limit but if you fully accept the limits of your speech at the limit of your speech you realize the unlimited unlimited as meet you there
and at that interface you realize freedom from limits
and you know birth and death is a kind of limited situation where barn we die
health is a limited situation where hell of the them are not healthy pain is is a limited situation
we have limits all day long and we have trouble fully expressing our limits
so this teaching which is not which is a teaching about all limits
is a teaching which i hope encourages us to forgive us give ourselves to each limited thing
and it for example to our death
to our aging to r sickness
because otherwise we tend to try to like fix our sickness or avoid death or whatever and then we we keep shrinking back from the limits of our life
and then we become trapped in if you don't if we don't fully
express and embrace our limits we are trapped by our limits
but if we fully exercise are limits were free of our limits
and so get zen practice is trying to help us fully be limited and again not to be afraid of being little
usually we're afraid of being liberal and so we try to like shrink back from that littleness or try to pretend that we're bigger than that or go some place for with your big for afraid of being little
we're afraid of being limited
because limited things are impermanent
but if we fully
meet and embrace our limits
we will be free of them
will be free of birth and death and sickness and health

now thank you very much for that answer it helps
a lot it helped me know thank you

hi rab yeah thank you so much for these last weeks of teaching
i've been thinking a lot about practicing
i'm a father things that i think i'm hearing you talk about and i feel like there's some quality about respect that feels
like i keep coming back to that as being some
universal quality or quality that
i don't know it's really drawing me and i was just curious about why why is it respect that such a quality that so transformative in this
meeting others
ah well for me like ipad and you may be remembered me saying that i first address respect etymologically
you have you heard me say that before i don't know so the etymology of respect his read spectres
look or view again
so i look at you know and like i think i said few weeks ago somebody said to me i hope you know that i really wish i really appreciate you
and i said i really do i it's quite clear to me that you appreciate me and i think that person might have alyssa said and i respect you and i say well actually that's not so clear to me
that you respect me
in other words it's not so clear to me that when you see me
you look again at me after you see me
you don't stop there you look again soon i see you and maybe i see this very nice per human person here that's fine there's nothing right that's okay but to stop there isn't really
does not respect respect is
that's how she looks i wonder what she really is last look again could you by any chance to be the whole universe is that a possible buddy
could you be like
not what i i see her to be
another way i think about respect is like you see something and then you die to that view
and if you die or give up that view you open your eyes again and look again
that respect
or we might think there's a pizza up there and you might think whole in somebody might say hey this pieces for you
and you might think okay and had reached for the pizza
but that's not really respect for more respectful would be of this peaches for me yeah oh no wonder what that i wonder what that means
his for me to look at
i'm so i might say i don't know exactly what you mean by this peaches for me may i have a piece in this in the person says no you can't have any it's for you to take over to our neighbor
rather than you said is for me and i guess so now it's my pizza that's not so respect for respectful as more like look again what's going on and also respect is like arches is a disrespect is i don't have time to i look at you again i'm too busy to like look at you and then look
at you again looking at you want is enough
a busy man i don't have time to look at you and then wonder who you are after that but respect is like when being willing to spend quite a bit a time when i meet you not just one second
but maybe two or three because i respect you because i'm trying to figure out not figure out even i'm trying to get to know you
and maybe getting to know you as not to try to figure you out but just keep wondering and questioning who are you
alo who are you
respect is like kind of like
limitless a curiosity
is kind of disrespectful to settle you don't say okay now i know who may shoe is now i know who athena is now i know who leslie is now i know that's kind of disrespectful is more like i think your this way but i don't know who you really are
i mean i think your name's green but you might have changed it
i get your name screen but i don't know who you are you're actually a mystery
and i don't even know what a mystery as that's more like for amy by respect and i feel like that is not universal but rather that universally applicable
it's you took to apply it to everything that universal application but it's not a universal thing it's a particular
a gem of compassion it's a particular wonderful endless practice
okay okay
is it anything else you want to say besides okay
thank you
thank you

laura hello ms hsu how thank you so much thank you for this whole serious i'm so glad i'm are you roll it
and anime and especially
something quite significant happen in paris anti asian up the violence and crime i mean the middle rats and then and i think detracted always remind me
stillness and silence and i think okay i haven't the whole assembly and a rabbit supporting me so i make sure that i don't have and and i don't walk away by there a massive massive fire cash
and i i think i'm i'm still cooking my my rod potatoes i am not sure i have a fully cooked yet but i am trying ah
so also appreciate everyone i learned so much you know a series on there's keep something it's because mike i tend to be very conceptual and and busty oh that's just me and i just have to accept it ah there's a there's a three letters are already the my mind is zero one
i'm into
i feel like it is a buddha as their on does not mean zero zero means infinity okay so only bother with buddha
i was figuring out is that are zambezi show where where basically i'm from two to one
you know or border itself is it isn't like infinity plus one in a letter can of question over thing about mine i and then this anti asian thing is a really interesting because i you know what is it is isn't it is so weird that this is the first time i realize amnesia
i was like oh my god and actually know very long time ago i realize i'm a woman
i don't know what kind of a cool and i'm drinking maybe i worry so much about aliens and a hot i don't know about this one i'm like a what's that you know such up and the china american they're crushing it's who asperger's caching and then i'm a woman i'm asian
and then what what kind of related reality i'm leaving you know i i was like i might
i might not refuse to embrace my relatives or i'm just i'm just do that a spiritual bypass you know i i don't know which one to be fully realized i'm asian and women itself
it is this is is also flat into the ward over the economy and and now i can go back to be of buddha which is one you know or infinity it felt like all our
this is something i just keep wondering and then another also very important question is about lotus sutra because i'm a chinese i i actually after my mastery with you have a to try i realized that oh my gosh as that are already sucking to chinese people's blood or at least thousand years
everywhere i'm like oh my god that i also noticed as as the lotus sutra his arm
his politics is marketing you know it's a la liga refraining but i know that you know when the bullet was way the kids to get out get out of that house on which is on fire some people perceive that was manipulation nice and people perceive it i was them skinny
yeah also perceived there was a lie a you know about some people perceive that was a love so i just sometimes we can't see it in others do it just depends on our own lands and are now i'm also curious about what's the intention come from i know bull has come from what i do feel it right button in other situation i can feel it
right and the maybe something means blogging so i was wondering you know
whether intention has to has to in order to is harmony whether the intention has to come from
infinity which is empty you know instead of from of course i'm in a main many cases a week we see this intention can't come from eagle and with her people
i wouldn't say that intention comes from infinity like would say intention is infinity in a limited form
oh
is infinity you you are infinity in this limited form and this limited form i'm encouraging you and me to be curious about
to boost practice limited form that is this of this asian form this is woman form to respect because this woman is infinity in the form of a woman
you but not infinity like nothing infinity like everything your everything like you and i am everything like me
and to understand it is is peace and harmony but to understand that we have to respect
we have to a respected be curious about this limited person
and and also part of respecting is perhaps wondering if for
doing some trick to avoid taking care of this person and through and and giving attention to this particular person
so we are gonna keep being a particular person for the rest of our lives
every moment we're going to be a particular limited person
and i think that person is calling out
to be listened to to be seen with respect and curiosity and kindness and gentleness
that has been asked of us to do with towards ourselves and others
so in that it is to their practices peace
so the previously i didn't realize animation itself is that means that i was i didn't love myself enough or i didn't recognize the tests this for it's a question you just asked my question is previously i didn't realize i'm asian yeah
walter you said first of all you didn't realize you're asian so that's something to study ah next your question about it that's something to study every every particular thing is calling to be studied to be listened to
no
no and nothing nothing is should not be respected
and that universal respect and curiosity
and questioning and wondering is necessary in order to realize peace
and that's a huge a huge challenge to be that thorough thoroughly respectful
thoroughly curious thoroughly gentle
thoroughly attentive thoroughly patient thoroughly present
thoroughly quiet and still all that is being asked of us in relationship to everything about ourselves and others
and we can't do the a by ourselves so i can work at that that's my personal effort and i'm doing it i wanna do it
and i may forget but then i remember and i also remember that
that's not the whole story that your practice is included in my effort and when i practice curiosity about you or me your included in that
my generosity in patients with my life
includes your generosity and patients with yours
which i think it's really wonderful so as not just i'm doing there
these wonderful practices your included in them
and when i do them your included in you're doing them too because i'm doing them and i'm doing the computer him thank you

haram
what i tyler
i found myself thinking about something that you said last week which is that on every person we meet is a future buddha
and i was thinking that that was metaphorical in the sense that everyone isn't going to become
a veritable buddha in in the world and i'm wondering if it's essentially the same thing as saying that everyone is included in each other and the sense that everyone includes the buddha and the buddha includes everyone or if there's another way of understanding the
the the concept of everyone we encounter is a future buddha
i would say that the way you include everybody
and everybody's
the way you include everybody and the way your included in everybody that's not a future buddha that's buddha period
that is buddha
but that's not you
and that's not me the way you include the whole universe isn't you
the way the whole universe includes you isn't you do
but that way is buddha
your the you'd of your the whole universe like this you actually are also gonna be a future buddha
of different buddha than you are now
now you're a future buddha in the future you will be a present buddha there's a time when you'll be a present buddha and and for the buddha for the buddha of the future who's a present buddha your the past buddha of that border and also right now the way
you are including the whole universe
and the way you're clued in whole universe that is buddha
but you're still this future buddha
and the annex the the particular that you've been talking about this that's and mesh with with the universal yeah and you're you're a particular that enmeshed with the universal right now and the way that reciprocity is working that is buddha but the full realization of the
it has not yet taken place
which i think you can probably say yea i think this could be deepened this realization
hi from example i sometimes forget about this reciprocity i sometimes forget to be respectful
and fortunately when i forget i usually think that's i don't want that's not what i want to do as good
and that person who thinks is good that he remembers occasionally what he really wants to do that person's a future buddha but even somebody who doesn't even think it'd be good to be patient and respectful that person's a future british to and that's and the and even if i tell them that they are
they'd rejected there's still a future buddha
but i myself do not reject that idea i find it really useful to apply to people who do reject that idea and i applied to people who accept the idea i want to apply to everybody because it helps me be respectful
i want to be respectful and that teaching supports my respecting everybody
and i think everybody can deepen their practice i mean the practice their realization can deepen and deepen and deepen
more or less without end
and in in in the same kind of understanding of of a buddha that then applies to what we've been discussing in terms of zen meditation being an only a buddha with a buddha is this this particular
ah particular instance of the universal and countering the universal is a buddha together with with a buddha in reality the reality or the of it yes that's where it is that what it is and that and that way of being is the reality of all things
and
it's good to it's good that it is teaching has been made into the world and would be good if you took care of it
i aspire to that absolutely
thank you like you

where do you want more
leslie
your muted
okay an ordinary events run away had
i had a couple questions i'm wondering if we could share up as
because i wasn't understanding so much but when you are explaining
how to
how you would intercede with somebody who's hitting their children
in a different way it's okay to stop them but it's a different way i just wanted for suddenly i got it
because when my son is now twenty three but when he was about three and he was always just
running and crazy and he was running through the airports and i've never hit my children but i grabbed him and i'm screaming at him and seems stumped when i stop and really violent kind of
and somebody touched my shoulder and said may help you
and i just burst out crying and it stopped me and as like think you that's all i needed because somebody else could have done what i've been wanting to do when i see a screaming parents say how dare you touch your child's out that way that's horrible
and that stayed with me for ever
it's a wonderful is
so thank you it
back so maybe they did maybe you did stop when they touched you but it was more than just didn't you stuffed it's that you they they give you peace
oh that's not really wanted
you've landed also stayed with me past fat and if you know i treated my son exactly was it's a teaching so that's another point of it not only does it make peace with the moment but it's the teaching of how to make peace in the future
and it stayed with me you saw all these these stories of peacemakers gets transmitted over the centuries
yeah but they don't stop the violence
they just transmit ways of dealing with it so ah somebody's being violent instead of like stopping them you might say may i help you
if you see some parents being cruel to their child you might be able to go upton said may i help you and am i up
they might stop but the thing is you're really trying to help them you're not trying to stop them
i see it maybe they won't stop but even if didn't stop you still you still say me i hope you you still transmit this compassion to them which they might not pick up on right away you did
but sometimes it takes a few minutes or few years
but it gets transmitted that's were trying to were trying to transmit compassion rather than control the universe into having no violence that's not gonna happen by a bell volcanoes are still gonna happen children are children scream and hit their siblings
he's and their parents but when that happens we can meet it with respect we can meet it with can i help you
and you can transmit that not all right
thank you leslie it's a wonderful wonderful example to end on thank you everybody for this great series and i hope we can do this again some day when we were
when we grow up
oh i hope our our future beings came in
wonderful for kindness was where be slowing omniture on each other thank you for being so kind to me like you for questioning me thank you for doubting me
like you for respecting me
and ah i hope i have respected you know i hope you feel my respect in my appreciation
and my questioning of you
thank you rob and the thanks